[QUOTE=Grim Joker;33394221]What a stupid thing to say. They didn't get the full 2 year cycle to work on the game. They probably only got to work on it by the time it was announced, which was a little after Black Ops was released. Infinity Ward was a crippled studio, working with a brand new studio. I'd say they had to work pretty hard to release a passable game period, let alone a good one. Saying that any developer doesn't work hard on a game is just a stupid thing to say. Animating a single character fully or building an entire level that takes place in a sprawling city involving a helicopter chase and such is hard. Building an entire game involving these things is extremely difficult.
I recommend you actually take a half a year to a year and have a bunch of people who have hardly done this before and try to make a game as good as or better than Call of Duty if you think they didn't work hard.[/QUOTE]
Most developers take around 2 to 3 years to turn around either massive overhauls, or new ideas in general, 3 to 4 years if the game is much larger. The people they hire are pretty much used to the development cycle, the processes, and such. The most they may need to learn is any changes to the tools, and obviously, whatever the current buzzword technique games are using is today.
I never said building an entire game wasn't hard, but compared to what some other developers do? CoD isn't that big a challenge, the engine barely changes, content can be re-used (and does get re-used), voice actors can have money thrown at them, asset artists can pump out tons of content with their sheer numbers. And yet nobody can actually come up with a decent, new, game-changing idea.
DICE launched Mirrors Edge in 2008, announced it in 2007, meaning it was probably started in 2006, considering how short it was. But it brought new ideas to the table, it took a old, generic engine and made something wonderful. All while developing Frostbite, Bad Company and pretty much planning Battlefield 3 on the side. Yes they have more employees than IW do now, but IW did have quite a few at one point before Activision got all pissy about royalties.
Plus I don't have to be a chef to know the food is shit. I can judge how much work I think somebody put into anything without actually having to try doing that anything myself.
[QUOTE=doonbugie2;33394301]We are discussing the game, just because we're not discussing it to your preference does not mean we aren't discussing the game.[/QUOTE]
It seems that you are talking about devs at the moment
[QUOTE=ILY;33394638]It seems that you are talking about devs at the moment[/QUOTE]
So.. they developed the game and are directly related to the game as its their creation. Should we not be talking about them?
[QUOTE=N-12_Aden;33394299]Are you serious? Call of Duy's reputation was forged on PC.[/QUOTE]
After the 3rd game however it switched to being a consolized game
[QUOTE=doonbugie2;33394681]So.. they developed the game and are directly related to the game as its their creation. Should we not be talking about them?[/QUOTE]
I get that, but it's not directly about call of duty
[QUOTE=ILY;33394790]I get that, but it's not directly about call of duty[/QUOTE]
Sledghammer was made just for CoD and thats all IW has ever done. How could you not talk about the devs when talking about a game. The devs fucked up the PC port, we have established that, its their fault.
I thought sledgehammer existed before hand?
[QUOTE=Vmonkey;33394884]I thought sledgehammer existed before hand?[/QUOTE]
No, its only projects were the cancelled CoD Action-Adventure game and MW3.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sledgehammer_Games[/url]
[QUOTE=Vmonkey;33394884]I thought sledgehammer existed before hand?[/QUOTE]
They tried making a third person call of duty but then the shit with IW happened and the sledgehammer started working on mw3.
Edit: Give me all of your clocks.
spas 12 + extended mags = 50% more pellets fired per shell, gimme your clocks, all of your clocks
Kinda unrelated, but I wonder how the people who left activision are fairing.
[QUOTE=N-12_Aden;33394853]Sledghammer was made just for CoD and thats all IW has ever done. How could you not talk about the devs when talking about a game. The devs fucked up the PC port, we have established that, its their fault.[/QUOTE]
I honestly don't see how the port is fucked up
[QUOTE=Ogopogo;33395083]Kinda unrelated, but I wonder how the people who left activision are fairing.[/QUOTE]
If IRC, they are working on a new IP at Respawn Entertainment with EA as publisher. Other than that, no one really knows.
[editline]22nd November 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=ILY;33395100]I honestly don't see how the port is fucked up[/QUOTE]
I was going off what I have been reading in this read, I rented it on PS3 so I honestly couldnt say for myself right now.
MW3 was made primarily for console, isn't it obvious the PC port would be garbage? Just because one person doesn't seem to get that, the whole thread breaks out in argument. Ironically, it's been the person who has been bitching about this game since release, or at least a week or so after.
it shouldn't be garbage is the point. Not that bad at least...
[QUOTE=N-12_Aden;33395103]If IRC, they are working on a new IP at Respawn Entertainment with EA as publisher. Other than that, no one really knows.
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I glanced over at their website, and took a look through some of the people they were hiring and stuff they were doing. The people who they are hiring have worked on some pretty nice games, and have a rather nice taste in games.
[QUOTE=PyroCraz3d;33395152]MW3 was made primarily for console, isn't it obvious the PC port would be garbage? Just because one person doesn't seem to get that, the whole thread breaks out in argument. Ironically, it's been the person who has been bitching about this game since release, or at least a week or so after.[/QUOTE]
You're missing the point Pyro. I paid $60 for the game I deserve a quality product, not some half-assed piece of shit. Especially when they announced all these PC exclusive features like dedicated servers and a server browser.
Wow i played MW3 at a friends house for a few hours. Every single map is shit. They are all super cluttered small clusterfuck maps that have too much shit littered around them, are super boring, forgettable, and confusing.
What the fuck. I was expecting a bad game, but this is just crazy. I want CoD4 to be the current most played again.
[QUOTE=doonbugie2;33395383]You're missing the point Pyro. I paid $60 for the game I deserve a quality product, not some half-assed piece of shit. Especially when they announced all these PC exclusive features like dedicated servers and a server browser.[/QUOTE]
THEN COMPLAIN TO THEM. All you've been doing is whining about how bad the port is to us, what can we do? Nothing! So why don't you complain on the IW forum or somewhere where people actually can do something about it.
[QUOTE=PyroCraz3d;33395720]THEN COMPLAIN TO THEM. All you've been doing is whining about how bad the port is to us, what can we do? Nothing! So why don't you complain on the IW forum or somewhere where people actually can do something about it.[/QUOTE]
You're really dumb.
You don't expect a game to be shit on PC if it has a PC version. You'd expect "professional" companies to be able to develop a stable version.
There are problems with a game on a certain platform and we expect better from the Devs. May we move on now?
What is the most used red perk on your classes and why? For me it's hardline pro because I never seem to be able to finish kills.
Cr1tical's fun tactics is back
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fano6r4dFgg[/media]
[editline]23rd November 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Vmonkey;33396482]There are problems with a game on a certain platform and we expect better from the Devs. May we move on now?
What is the most used red perk on your classes and why? For me it's hardline pro because I never seem to be able to finish kills.[/QUOTE]
Assassin because it is the best one out off all of them. It annoys me that it is because everyone uses it and it makes everything useless.
[QUOTE=Vmonkey;33396482]There are problems with a game on a certain platform and we expect better from the Devs. May we move on now?
What is the most used red perk on your classes and why? For me it's hardline pro because I never seem to be able to finish kills.[/QUOTE]
Hardline here as well, with support point streaks it lets me constantly have my UAV and CUAV up.
[QUOTE=PyroCraz3d;33393174]Typical "high and fucking mighty" pc princesses at it again.[/QUOTE]
Get out. You result to insulting back at the insultee, good job.
mom and dad are fighting :'(
[QUOTE=Raijin;33394234]taking sides is forfeiting IQ points.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Vmonkey;33396482]There are problems with a game on a certain platform and we expect better from the Devs. May we move on now?
What is the most used red perk on your classes and why? For me it's hardline pro because I never seem to be able to finish kills.[/QUOTE]
Quickdraw pro because of all the CQB
There aren't many abilities to take the element of surprise in this game.
[QUOTE=doonbugie2;33392306]Oh shit, I'm sorry I don't enjoy console ports.[/QUOTE]
You aren't gay either are you?
You don't enter a gay night club then right?
Ontopic: I do have to say, they could have done some much better maps. These feel too tight, too "fight yardish".
I can't compare any of these to Crossfire from cod4 at all. The max I could do would be compare some straights in some maps with it, but otherwise, all the maps are mostly very enclosed. Too much lack of space.
Just yesterday, had a pretty awfull game of domination in Mission (I think its mission? that favela'ish map with the long straight for snipers and very tight corners and that ditch like hole on one side of the map under a bridge).
I died maybe 5, 6 times because of a guy who had just spawned a bunch of meters behind me, right after/before I spawn. Soo many times I didn't survive even 5 seconds because some guy rushed in from somewhere and killed me.
[editline]23rd November 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Grim Joker;33393011]That's why we see it so often right?
Oh wait[/QUOTE]
Better yet, I haven't seen even one on PC!
Only on mw2, and I think I never had a 999999999999 exp one.
Really doon... [b]Get out because you have nothing good to say.[/b]
[editline]23rd November 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=hexpunK;33393855]"OH NO!!! HE had valid reasons for calling the game a piece of shit on his platoform! I better call him a snob to make up for that!!!".
He's right. Most console players, given a computer, would probably just end up using Facebook, no matter how powerful the computer is, as playing games on them actually requires some form of effort to make sure they run well. Hacked lobbies are a common occurrence on older CoD games now for the 360 as the lowered player base means you have a high chance of hitting one, and not so much on the PS3 as it is pretty secure now the CFW is gone.
You aren't going to see them as much in a highly populated game, there are more legitimate players who can host then there are people who actually spent the money on the required equipment to modify 360 gamedata. Still fucking retarded the game doesn't check any of that for Matchmaking.
And complaining about somebody complaining about the game not working well on their platform, then telling them to get out as they "don't stop complaining" is fucking retarded. Complaints about a game are discussion of the game, as you so preciously seem to want this thread to be a discussion thread, quit 'yer bitchin'. People are entitled to complain about the plethora of bugs games tend to have, just because it isn't your platform doesn't mean you can dismiss it and call the game "perfect" still. Stop being stupid.
Basically. You're all being retards. Stop arguing.[/QUOTE]
No. He's the only one being a retard because hes here just to say the game sucks and only to complain. Its like we are the parents at the front and he alone is the kids at the back, and the thread and the game is a road trip on a hot summer day where everyone is fucking sweaty and the kids keep going "mom! hes on my spot!" "dad! hes making faces" "are we there yet?" "i'm hungry!" "i'm hot!" "i wanna go home!" and we have to listen to them the whole fucking time and no matter what we say or don't say, they wont shut the fuck up about it.
I bet if he went into, lets say BF3's thread, he'd suck the game's dick and then come back in here just to spit the cum out.
So yeah, he has no reasons to stay here and do the shit he keeps doing.
Generally, when you don't like something, you don't go jam it down other people's throats and keep going back to it.
[editline]23rd November 2011[/editline]
Now... Ontopic...
I use different perks for different things.
Assasin if I want stealth, quickdraw for sniping (yea... quickscoping is a bitch of an addiction now...) and mostly hardline with specialist perks now.
Oh, have you guys noticed that snipers are either VERY buffed for quickscoping or that hitboxes for them are different from other weapons?
Really, you guys probably seen it, but I for example saw it very clearly today. Sure, I aim at the guys, but the sniper crosshair doesn't seems to even reach the guy, and I manage to kill them anyway. Its as if the hitboxes were alot bigger with a sniper.
I went to a gay night club a few months ago.
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