[QUOTE=SteveUK;33652786]I'm slowly starting to regard Treyarch as the better COD developer. How can IW get weapon balance so wrong and forget everything they should have learnt from MW2? All the automatic ARs feel the same, M16 is so underpowered it's pathetic, the other burst weapon (Type95) is ridiculously OP, LMGs and shotguns are basically useless, sniper rifles are easy mode and of course there has to be an overpowered akimbo weapon. I know Black Ops had the Famas that they eventually nerfed, but this is much worse.
I also think it was a bad idea to integrate "stopping power" into the base damages, at the most they should have met it half way.[/QUOTE]
I somewhat agree, but if you honestly think shotguns are useless you really don't know how to use them, they're the most effective close-range weapons in the game.
Also I suck at sniping(As in I get good K:D ratios but my score generally ends up in the bottom 3 when I use it one for an entire match, opposed to shotguns, sub-machineguns and assault-riffles which genrally nets me in the top 2.
[QUOTE=SteveUK;33652786]I'm slowly starting to regard Treyarch as the better COD developer. How can IW get weapon balance so wrong and forget everything they should have learnt from MW2? All the automatic ARs feel the same, M16 is so underpowered it's pathetic, the other burst weapon (Type95) is ridiculously OP, LMGs and shotguns are basically useless, sniper rifles are easy mode and of course there has to be an overpowered akimbo weapon. I know Black Ops had the Famas that they eventually nerfed, but this is much worse.
I also think it was a bad idea to integrate "stopping power" into the base damages, at the most they should have met it half way.[/QUOTE]
I still prefer IW. BO's good weapons were all the same and the guns that sucked were also all the same, and then there were the meh guns that were ok to use but required some practic. They ended up being a fight between which to pick among the good guns and since they were mostly all the same...
They got too boring and the game still suffered of the "best weapon wins" thing.
That plus the utter bad optimization in an engine that should ask for less...
IW might have some stuff wrong but their guns are alot more interesting.
The ARs don't feel the same at all. I'd say that more about black ops or even bc2 (not that it matters, but the AR's there were pretty much the same thing to me)
The type95 is a bit OP (especially on hip fire it seems) but thats getting a fix soon.
LMGs need to be used in a special way to be good.
Shotguns aren't exactly useless, but they only actually get good after lv.28 and after selecting the right perks and getting near enough. But near enough to hit someone, they RAPE.
Sniper rifles aren't exactly easy mode. I've seen people miss alot with them actually.
And the op akimbo weapon (FMG) is getting its ass nerfed apparently. Hopefully to near useless condition, since everyone uses it even instead of using the primary.
I didn't see that big of a nerf to the famas in BO actually. The rape rate it fired was increadible.
I love it when people say "LMGS are useless" and then they see themselves slaughtered by the MG36 Suppressed.
LMGs just require a different playstyle which isn't always used by MW players. If you find a good position to defend, with the right perks you can lock down an area. I've used an L86 on Dome defending the bombsite inside the cave/control room on Demolition and with Blast Shield I was able to lock it down for a good 4 minutes
Oh god I just prestiged, so much regret. Which gamemode gives the most XP for an average player like myself? I'm shit at Search and Destroy.
[QUOTE=Midas22;33654544]Oh god I just prestiged, so much regret. Which gamemode gives the most XP for an average player like myself? I'm shit at Search and Destroy.[/QUOTE]
Kill confirmed is a goldmine of XP
Stay light(smg & shotguns, secondary as pistol)
Stay constantly on the move, always use steady aim and never Stalker. Then you just grab as many dog tags as you can, killing everyone in your way.
If you go with a smg you're gonna wanna bite the sour apple untill you unlock rapid fire, but this is very easy
If you go with a shotgun shit's gonna not really go your way until you unlock the Range proficiency which is at like lvl 26 or something :v:
RB said they weren't gonna balance the shotguns for awhile I believe. Shame, some of the shotguns actually had fucking potential. I just hope the Type 95 and FMG9s nerf will be enough to convince people that there are better weapons.
[QUOTE=PyroCraz3d;33654984]RB said they weren't gonna balance the shotguns for awhile I believe. Shame, some of the shotguns actually had fucking potential. I just hope the Type 95 and FMG9s nerf will be enough to convince people that there are better weapons.[/QUOTE]
Balance? What do you mean with that? Make them better before level 20's?
I FUCKING HOPE they wont make range damage and extended mags useless or even slightly different.
Where did you see that?
[QUOTE=dass;33655075]Balance? What do you mean with that? Make them better before level 20's?
I FUCKING HOPE they wont make range damage and extended mags useless or even slightly different.
Where did you see that?[/QUOTE]
It was on one of Robert's twitters, he stated that they're trying to balance some shit out but shotguns are not priority. Idk if those were his exact words, but all I know is, shotguns won't be fixed for awhile.
I just hope they either lower the gold requirements for certain catergories[snipers, shotguns, and MAYBE lower the lmgs a bit.]
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;33654369]I love it when people say "LMGS are useless" and then they see themselves slaughtered by the MG36 Suppressed.[/QUOTE]
They ARE useless, you feel you're in quicksand and for most encounters ARs are way more effective.
[QUOTE=PyroCraz3d;33655133]It was on one of Robert's twitters, he stated that they're trying to balance some shit out but shotguns are not priority. Idk if those were his exact words, but all I know is, shotguns won't be fixed for awhile.
I just hope they either lower the gold requirements for certain catergories[snipers, shotguns, and MAYBE lower the lmgs a bit.][/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.callofduty.com/thread/100585971?tstart=0[/url]
Some guy here states the extra pellets are gone, and in some other thread, I think someone says the FMGs got an even bigger buff after the nerf.
I played with the SPAS today with extended mags and still saw all the pellets with extended mags unchanged. Was there a patch on consoles that PC didn't get or something?
I hope you're right. I really want shotguns to stay as they are or to get a buff. They are only solid and useful after 26-28.
[QUOTE=Midas22;33654544]Oh god I just prestiged, so much regret. Which gamemode gives the most XP for an average player like myself? I'm shit at Search and Destroy.[/QUOTE]
Here's what you do. You could play Team Defender and just hold the flag while your teammates gets kills. Every kill they get earns you 20 XP. It's basically team deathmatch with a little more XP. Also, use the support strike package. UAV, (You always need a UAV) ballistic vests, and a Recon Drone. Recon drone is a 10 point streak and you get 350 XP just for calling it in. You get 100 XP per tag and a 40 XP tag assist when that person is killed by your teammate. I got an extra couple of thousand XP per match just by doing that. It also raises up your assists so those challenges will be out of the way pretty quickly.
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[QUOTE=SteveUK;33655234]They ARE useless, you feel you're in quicksand and for most encounters ARs are way more effective.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't say they're useless. When it comes to mobility, sure. But it's meant to be used to hold down a position. Sit in a long corridor and wait for people to walk in, then see what happens.
[QUOTE=PyroCraz3d;33655133]It was on one of Robert's twitters, he stated that they're trying to balance some shit out but shotguns are not priority. Idk if those were his exact words, but all I know is, shotguns won't be fixed for awhile.
I just hope they either lower the gold requirements for certain catergories[snipers, shotguns, and MAYBE lower the lmgs a bit.][/QUOTE]
Why would they waste time balancing a cosmetic feature when there are much more pressing issues?
[QUOTE=kaskade700;33655607]Why would they waste time balancing a cosmetic feature when there are much more pressing issues?[/QUOTE]
Because shotguns are a bitch to get gold for, it's hard to level up. ANd all the good attachments for shotguns are at high levels and since most shotguns suck, you can't even reach close to it w/o raging
Shotguns make me rage outside of hardcore. One shell is never enough.
[QUOTE=Rhodry;33656112]Shotguns make me rage outside of hardcore. One shell is never enough.[/QUOTE]
It took me 5 shots to kill some guy. I think one of them missed, but goddamn that was... ugh...
Had a nice match in the morning though. Team Defender on Dome. The other team has the flag. I just go down to the bunker and I think all of them were down there behind the consoles. I just point at them with the striker, unleash its full load and get a multi-kill. Got like 850 exp from those kills or something. Goddamn that was awesome.
The striker must be a beast with extended mags and damage right? It already is pretty good without, and it seems like even the shittiest shotguns turn into amazing killing tools when they get their attachments and perks.
I've been having alot of fun playing this way now that I think about it.
I played with a SPAS-12 and could barely manage more than 3 one hit kills in a round of FFA.
The only decent shotguns are the Striker, because of the rate of fire, and the Model 1887. In my experience anyway.
[QUOTE=jbthekid;33657699]The only decent shotguns are the Striker, because of the rate of fire, and the Model 1887. In my experience anyway.[/QUOTE]
You mean raw firepower or with mags and damage?
The striker is pretty good alright. I can use it without any fancy crap and I can kill much better then with the KSG and the SPAS, also in raw firepower.
Speaking of the spas, I just remembered I have a movie I need to upload on Fallen. Had a few great kills with the spas there. Never even gave a chance.
Golded my M4 about an hour or so ago. Next is the M16. Hoping to get to at least level 15 today, and level 30 by tomorrow.
[QUOTE=Niven;33650049]Picked up someone's dropped FMG-9 akimbo.
Got a multikill with it :v[/QUOTE]
i had my Anti air class out on Bakaara (CUAV - SAM - EMP)
ACR and Stinger, ran out of my ACR grabbed the next guys' weapon (Akimbo FMG9s) leveled it up twice in that one life that i had it, up till then i never used the FMG 9s in online multiplayer :v:
[QUOTE=PyroCraz3d;33658836]Golded my M4 about an hour or so ago. Next is the M16. Hoping to get to at least level 15 today, and level 30 by tomorrow.[/QUOTE]
What's your obsession with getting golden guns?
Half of them are ugly and nobody really gives a shit when you're running around with a gold gun. It's really kind of a silly think to be working at so hard.
Does Hardcore give more XP? It feels like it. Even when I do horrible, I rank my gun up 2-3 times..
[QUOTE=PyroCraz3d;33660284]Does Hardcore give more XP? It feels like it. Even when I do horrible, I rank my gun up 2-3 times..[/QUOTE]
I don't think it does. At least, I don't find myself leveling up any more than usual.
[QUOTE=Grim Joker;33660267]What's your obsession with getting golden guns?
Half of them are ugly and nobody really gives a shit when you're running around with a gold gun. It's really kind of a silly think to be working at so hard.[/QUOTE]
I just like having everything for a particular gun unlocked. I know, they pretty much do look ugly, but getting them on guns that nobody uses often[m16, MK14, PM9, any lmg, some shotguns, dragunuv] gives me a sense of accomplishment, and it increases the lifespan of this game.
[QUOTE=PyroCraz3d;33660470]I just like having everything for a particular gun unlocked. I know, they pretty much do look ugly, but getting them on guns that nobody uses often[m16, MK14, PM9, any lmg, some shotguns, dragunuv] gives me a sense of accomplishment, and it increases the lifespan of this game.[/QUOTE]
Its what I did on MW2 and what I'm gonna do on MW3, starting with the shotguns, which already did. Currently at the striker, then comes either the AA or the USAS.
Pick me one of those 2. USAS or AA-12?
I can't hear or see the voice chat logo in MW2, does anybody else have this problem? I can't figure out how to fix it. I just deleted ClientRegistry.blob to see if that helps.
Didn't do too great playing MW3 last night dropped my KD from 1.39 to 1.33, however when i had my good games, i loved hearing the enemy rage over how bad his team was.
Gold camo is terrible, I wouldn't use it over other camos. If it was still headshots to get camo then I would understand.
I may get a gold AK just because i can then feel like an African Warlord everytime i play as them
But most definitely solidified the SCAR-L Silenced as my absolute favorite gun to use.
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