I didnt like BC choices on mag size and left hand side ejection, 50 in a 30 size mag is just lultacular and im sure a right handed shooter would appreciate the hot brass hitting them in the face.
I never claimed that only CoD messed up stuff, but BF3 is getting it right pretty much (played the alpha).
[QUOTE=N-12_Aden;32428600]I didnt like BC choices on mag size and left hand side ejection, 50 in a 30 size mag is just lultacular and im sure a right handed shooter would appreciate the hot brass hitting them in the face.
I never claimed that only CoD messed up stuff, but BF3 is getting it right pretty much (played the alpha).[/QUOTE]
Well yeah, now it is, all I'm saying is that in the past they've been waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off base. Having some minor issues with ammo count before the game is out isn't a big deal, I'd say.
Its just that with no other pics of the M4A1 I just have to go on mag size.
Im sure they wont force someone to use 20 round mags unless they arent standard (faster reload speed?)
[editline]22nd September 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Grim Joker;32428738]Well yeah, now it is, all I'm saying is that in the past they've been waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off base. Having some minor issues with ammo count before the game is out isn't a big deal, I'd say.[/QUOTE]
Sorry I tend to look at the small things, when Im playing though or "rating" a game it doesnt make much diffrence to me. Just something that could easily be fixed.
[QUOTE=N-12_Aden;32428873]Its just that with no other pics of the M4A1 I just have to go on mag size.
Im sure they wont force someone to use 20 round mags unless they arent standard (faster reload speed?)[/QUOTE]
It would be good to make it different from the other assault rifles, but I'm pretty sure it just looks that way. In all the gameplay so far it's had 30 rounds per magazine.
Ok, thats what I was wondering.
I hope to god that the FAMAS is in fullauto this time, love acting like a mobile infantry trooper with the FAMAS lol.
[QUOTE=Grim Joker;32428738]Well yeah, now it is, all I'm saying is that in the past they've been waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off base. Having some minor issues with ammo count before the game is out isn't a big deal, I'd say.[/QUOTE]
True true
BC and BC2 been fucked with mag sizes and gun models, made me disappoint
CoD has a *fairly* good record of keeping gun models accurate (minus the 3p ejection port thing), and mag sizes accurate. (M1014 was probably for balance reasons, as was the China Lake, etc)
eh. what about the "m21 ebr" in mw2?
edit: wait that's more of a misnomer than a wrong model
[QUOTE=trotskygrad;32428993]True true
BC and BC2 been fucked with mag sizes and gun models, made me disappoint
CoD has a *fairly* good record of keeping gun models accurate (minus the 3p ejection port thing), and mag sizes accurate. (M1014 was probably for balance reasons, as was the China Lake, etc)[/QUOTE]
Well to be fair Black Ops was so innacurate in weapon choices. M4 like carbine instead of CAR-15, 80s RPK valmet clone, AK74-AKM hybrid thing still called AK47, L96 (speaks for itself), 2001 era FAMAS, 80s Italian SMG (Spectre), WA2000 in 1960's, M60E3/M60E4 in 1961 and 68, CZ75 (introduced of course in the 70s with the full auto variant not coming till the 90s) *taking breath*
Rant over :D
Oh and G11
[QUOTE=N-12_Aden;32429068]Well to be fair Black Ops was so innacurate in weapon choices. M4 like carbine instead of CAR-15, 80s RPK valmet clone, AK74-AKM hybrid thing still called AK47, L96 (speaks for itself), 2001 era FAMAS, 80s Italian SMG (Spectre), WA2000 in 1960's, M60E3/M60E4 in 1961 and 68, CZ75 (introduced of course in the 70s with the full auto variant not coming till the 90s) *taking breath*
Rant over :D
Oh and G11[/QUOTE]
And the zombies they don't look as real as they do in rea.... oh wait.
[QUOTE=N-12_Aden;32427834]I dont see how it as any less known, its just in a diffrent calibre and small cosmetic changes, It makes sense for the ultranatonlist rebels of the first game and Makarovs cell in MW2 but not the Russian army. I know what your saying but they try to tacticalize it too much for it to really be recognizable as a Ak47
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK74#AKS-74U[/url][/QUOTE]
Well yea, but people would most likely go crazy from seeing an ak-100 series or something that isnt an ak47 or ak74.
Even though the AK looked real good as it was in cod4, without any tactical stuff, it doesn't looks that bad now either. Although I wouldn't mind having cod4's sound over for example blops or mw2.
[QUOTE=N-12_Aden;32429068]Well to be fair Black Ops was so innacurate in weapon choices. M4 like carbine instead of CAR-15, 80s RPK valmet clone, AK74-AKM hybrid thing still called AK47, L96 (speaks for itself), 2001 era FAMAS, 80s Italian SMG (Spectre), WA2000 in 1960's, M60E3/M60E4 in 1961 and 68, CZ75 (introduced of course in the 70s with the full auto variant not coming till the 90s) *taking breath*
Rant over :D
Oh and G11[/QUOTE]
M4 Carbine? They didn't have the M4 Carbine in that game, nor did they call anything the M4 Carbine.
[QUOTE=Grim Joker;32428418]Uh excuse me, did you even play Bad Company 1? They didn't even try to give guns the correct ammo amount, they gave them horribly inaccurate magazine counts. Don't act like Call of Duty is the only one to have incorrect/strange mag sizes when Battlefield has done it in the past as well.
[editline]22nd September 2011[/editline]
They're doing it for a 'brand awareness' type deal. People know the AK-47. It's famous, and it's been around forever. The AK they're using isn't even an AK-47 anymore, but they're still calling it that, because that's the name that people know. That's the reason the Modern Warfare games are still called 'Call of Duty'. Originally they weren't even going to be the same franchise as Call of Duty but Activision found out that Call of Duty fans weren't aware that Modern Warfare was essentially the same game, so they kept it in the same franchise.
There's a lot in a name.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. People know the ak47 more then any other weapon.
Don't even start with BC. At least BC2 was hailed as being alot more realistic then mw2 and bla bla.
The thing is the ammo counts were wrong, the XM8 and its variants aren't even used, apparently you don't have to pull any bolts either after emptying a magazine... Yep, really real.
[editline]22nd September 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=N-12_Aden;32428945]Ok, thats what I was wondering.
I hope to god that the FAMAS is in fullauto this time, love acting like a mobile infantry trooper with the FAMAS lol.[/QUOTE]
We probably wont have the FAMAS in multiplayer.
[QUOTE=N-12_Aden;32429068]Well to be fair Black Ops was so innacurate in weapon choices. M4 like carbine instead of CAR-15, 80s RPK valmet clone, AK74-AKM hybrid thing still called AK47, L96 (speaks for itself), 2001 era FAMAS, 80s Italian SMG (Spectre), WA2000 in 1960's, M60E3/M60E4 in 1961 and 68, CZ75 (introduced of course in the 70s with the full auto variant not coming till the 90s) *taking breath*
Rant over :D
Oh and G11[/QUOTE]
I was talking about weapon modeling rather than weapon selection
at least the M14 has 20 rounds, opposed to BC2's 10
[QUOTE=N-12_Aden;32428600]I didnt like BC choices on mag size and left hand side ejection, 50 in a 30 size mag is just lultacular and im sure a right handed shooter would appreciate the hot brass hitting them in the face.
I never claimed that only CoD messed up stuff, but BF3 is getting it right pretty much (played the alpha).[/QUOTE]
Loved it when people were nitpicking over BF3 vs MW3 with the trailers, when Sandman throws you a mag and there are no bullets in it or something, and then showing BF3's reload a new mag with the bullets showing.
Its like they have to look for reasons to down mw3 and up bf3.
Not to be a bitch, but I'd LAUGH if BF3 turned out to be as generic as just about any other game. The PC server thing where you have to go out of the game to enter another server might be just the start...
Still, no hate towards the game, just towards the idiots who pit it against cod and disregard everything.
[QUOTE=Grim Joker;32429222]M4 Carbine? They didn't have the M4 Carbine in that game, nor did they call anything the M4 Carbine.[/QUOTE]
He said "M4-like carbine"
tbh the CAR-15 is similar to the M4 Carbine, they're all based off the AR-15 platform.
Just changes in the brass deflector, forward assist, etc. etc.
[QUOTE=N-12_Aden;32429068]Well to be fair Black Ops was so innacurate in weapon choices. M4 like carbine instead of CAR-15, 80s RPK valmet clone, AK74-AKM hybrid thing still called AK47, L96 (speaks for itself), 2001 era FAMAS, 80s Italian SMG (Spectre), WA2000 in 1960's, M60E3/M60E4 in 1961 and 68, CZ75 (introduced of course in the 70s with the full auto variant not coming till the 90s) *taking breath*
Rant over :D
Oh and G11[/QUOTE]
Their reasons for that was that those were top secret experimental weapons.
VERY farfetched, especially for the gun sights. RDS in the 60's or something? What the fuck.
Still, it was either the stuff we got, or some itty bitty sticks from before.
Not saying that they would be weak weapons or would suck, but I think they tried to get as far from WW2 stuff as much as they could.
Besides, nobody would probably know any of those weapons, so they just sticked with weapons well known.
[QUOTE=dass;32429406]Their reasons for that was that those were top secret experimental weapons.
VERY farfetched, especially for the gun sights. RDS in the 60's or something? What the fuck.
Still, it was either the stuff we got, or some itty bitty sticks from before.
Not saying that they would be weak weapons or would suck, but I think they tried to get as far from WW2 stuff as much as they could.
Besides, nobody would probably know any of those weapons, so they just sticked with weapons well known.[/QUOTE]
yup, although it wouldn't be that much of a stretch to use late-war and 1950s post-war weapons, such as the FN49, SKS Carbine, AK47 (derp derp derp), AR-10, CETME, SG510, MAS-49, MAT-49, M/45 Carl Gustav, etc etc
hell I don't know why the fuck they DIDN'T have the M/45 Carl Gustav, that was one of the more preferred guns by MACV.
They were just having fun with it, guys. They were using the top-secret prototype excuse to have a bunch of weapons that weren't really in video games.
[QUOTE=Vmonkey;32411524]Also the AGM Reaper is apparentely an aerial drone that can fire up to 14 unguided predator missiles...
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hEwdDeBRY0&NR=1[/media]
[editline]21st September 2011[/editline]
and clearly the tac knife is back[/QUOTE]
Of course it's to early to tell if the UMP will be the powerhouse it was last game but I find it funny that they made the sights even easier to use, they don't even line up with the rear sights.
According to people at the XP event it's a lot more balanced because it's utter shit at range.
[QUOTE=Melon_Mapper;32429102]And the zombies they don't look as real as they do in rea.... oh wait.[/QUOTE]
Zombies are seperate from campaign....so....yeahh.
I really hope it drops to atleast 20 damage not 35 that shit was crazy.
It. Was. A. Joke.
[QUOTE=Grim Joker;32430260]According to people at the XP event it's a lot more balanced because it's utter shit at range.[/QUOTE]
I guess they would have to balance it, it was an absolute monster in MW2 even at range.
[editline]22nd September 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Melon_Mapper;32431093]It. Was. A. Joke.[/QUOTE]
lol sometimes I cant tell with some people.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;32412548]I always disliked Double Tap. People would rush in with a Mini Uzi and tear shit up.
[editline]21st September 2011[/editline]
I'm sorry, but that Striker looks tactifucked.[/QUOTE]
What the hell that was a striker? I was watching it thumbnailed and I thought it was an hk-416 with a drum mag before the guy started firing.
[QUOTE=N-12_Aden;32431094]I guess they would have to balance it, it was an absolute monster in MW2 even at range.
[editline]22nd September 2011[/editline]
[b]lol sometimes I cant tell with some people.[/b][/QUOTE]
Well since when have zombies been real and you may find it funny.
I meant you joking, Im pretty ceartain zombies dont exist lol
[editline]22nd September 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=dass;32429328]Loved it when people were nitpicking over BF3 vs MW3 with the trailers, when Sandman throws you a mag and there are no bullets in it or something, and then showing BF3's reload a new mag with the bullets showing.
Its like they have to look for reasons to down mw3 and up bf3.
Not to be a bitch, but I'd LAUGH if BF3 turned out to be as generic as just about any other game. The PC server thing where you have to go out of the game to enter another server might be just the start...
Still, no hate towards the game, just towards the idiots who pit it against cod and disregard everything.[/QUOTE]
I know right, its a video game. Some people just make it deadly serious. Like the IGN boards (shudders).
*facepalm*
Im not even..........*le sigh*
Ok.. Just got in a CoD4 game where this guy rushed around everything doing 360's and sometimes 180's to aim back at me and kill me. Either he could see the future and was in alot of drugs to move this fast, or he was using aimbot.
He basically aimed at everyone from 2 streets away, ran around the whole map jumping and stuff, and as soon as anyone either fired or came into eye contact with him, he'd shoot them. Even weirder when he didn't actually see them and he would just 180º to shoot them before they even knew. He said he was a hacker and how there are 10x better then him but ffs, who the fuck stops to turn to look at the other side of the street in half a second and shoot some guy who isn't even doing anything?
Or who even aims at someone the precise second they spawn? I don't even think he had 24/7 UAV, and even if he did...
Then some other guy came with a dragunov, always scoping in and out extremely fast and also did some weird ass shots.
I thought that was some kind of hardcore gamers server, being called frag kings and all and there being at least 2 guys who would AT LEAST pass by cheaters, but damn, that first guy was probably as good as one of those CS players that you see in those really good fragmovies where they slaughter an entire team just from hearing half of a footstep a mile away.
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