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[QUOTE=Horse Strangler;34270228]Uh I am prety sure he is not the real Xboct, though I might be wrong? [IMG]http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/594707594789703962/054B1BF2180275E4BE85D22AAC1621E227046DD3/[/IMG][/QUOTE] >click on player >view player steam profile >beside name on steam profile, click arrow >past alias' shown

Yeah it was not him.

Since everyone is so butthurt pub is way less fun than inhouse with friends and if you play inhouse all those heroes are bad.

I love how melonmonkey keeps saying Juggernaut is terrible as fuck and it's his facepunch avatar. [editline]18th January 2012[/editline] Also, you know something's wrong with the enemy team when you get First Blood as Lich.

After a 12 game losing streak, I finally play with a good team (Except one person AFK since level 4) [IMG]http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/614973792668055440/45E9C29B56C9DCA529D0DB184EC78C6B4A53B31B/[/IMG] I lost again. FUCK (I'm Lina btw)

[QUOTE=Meatpuppet;34273055]After a 12 game losing streak, I finally play with a good team (Except one person AFK since level 4) [IMG]http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/614973792668055440/45E9C29B56C9DCA529D0DB184EC78C6B4A53B31B/[/IMG] I lost again. FUCK (I'm Lina btw)[/QUOTE] We kinda figured going by the portrait, name and skills in the bottom center. ;p

[QUOTE=Dominicus;34273379]We kinda figured going by the portrait, name and skills in the bottom center. ;p[/QUOTE] what if he had clicked on an allied hero? it would be the same screen.

[QUOTE=Reimu;34265153]Jugg is fun to use, but he's a bit harder of a hero. I suggest trying SK actually, since he's a tank and has his ult which fully regenerates health and mana upon death (so long as it's ready & you have 140 mana to spend). Also Snow did pretty well that round. I got ganked by him bad while soloing bot to farm when I thought the Dire were distracted. When I got Demon Edge though the battle changed hands (combined with Tinker stopping outta no where on the sidelanes).[/QUOTE] I hate SK I actually played a little with him, seriously not my style.

SK is manliest hero in game true story

he's also the easiest

am i the only one that understand what melonmonkey are trying to say? the heroes he said are not bad, but there are better options! for example, kunkka ulti is good, but is hard to land, the aoe is not too big and the stun is too short, his Q is hard to land, mark the spot and tidebringer are good but not enough imo compare it with tidehunter, his ulti has better stun, massive aoe, and its easy to land when you have blink dagger, its more tanky, his Q is slow+damage+armor reduction and his anchor smash is similar to tidebringer if you are playing "seriously" or competitive why would you pick kunkka when you have tidehunter

He is saying that those heroes are useless not bad, there's a major difference between those things. And Lion is still one of the best supports besides Lich imo, Rhasta (Shadow Shaman) is picked more often because of the pushing power he can provide, and that is really important in high skill games.

[QUOTE=IAmAnooB;34270242]I have to say that, as a sort of new player to the DotA scene. I have played most of the heroes by now. I just wanted to say, that I don't think Axe is someone to ignore, he is the only hero that I can pick up and win a game with. There is several reasons, I find him easy to last hit/deny with, he's a great farmer with his counter-helix. And in team fights he can help to actually win, as long as you got blink you can basically win the team fight. You might not do so much damage yourself, but if you managed to get 2 heroes forced to attack you, you can just let your allies nuke them. And when they try to run away from you, you just do culling blade. I am not saying that he is the best initiator in anyway, but I wouldn't call him useless. If I see the enemy team takes strong melee carries, obviously I go Axe, not all the times but often. Because if I can jungle or just farm to get my blink and blademail. They really drop like flies, and I often manages to get my team to work together, even in pubs. Since I try to be sincere, and not blame anyone. Every game since I started to try to get people to work as a team, nobody has been an ass. At least not to our own team. I am well aware though that a coordinated team with ES can do a lot more than one with Axe. That doesn't make Axe useless. Just some thoughts I had when reading the latest pages, and lets try to be civil. Melonmonkey, you don't need to stop posting, it's just that I think beardy got annoyed by you being a bit cocky, and I have agree you were a bit. But I think the whole argument went a little bit overboard. I don't agree with you monkey, but you've tried to be civil so, I don't see why you should leave the thread. Just try to understand other people's view points a little bit more, and not get too into an discussion. But I have to agree that Bloodseeker doesn't do much in team fights, that I agree with you. But he can be the one that totally cleans up after one. Or make it so the other team can't fight a team fight by picking off supports and whatnot.[/QUOTE] To be completely honest the moment someone in my game tries to coordinate people I tend to roll my eyes. Mostly because usually the people that do that are either awful at it, obnoxious about it or tend to do really stupid things. The worst are the minimap pingers though I guess. Well maybe after the voice chat folks. To be honest in the hard to land abilities heroes not played, wind runner is a pretty good exception. Her abilities are very strong, but both her Q and W are relatively though to hit ideally.

How do solo Roshan as Ursa so early? Build/Skill order etc would be nice

[QUOTE=ashxu;34274998]How do solo Roshan as Ursa so early? Build/Skill order etc would be nice[/QUOTE] vlads max the attackspeed spell.

[QUOTE=ashxu;34274998]How do solo Roshan as Ursa so early? Build/Skill order etc would be nice[/QUOTE] Get a quick Vlads, get 1 or 2 in fury swipes, then max overpower you can do it at 4>

holy fuck getting so many noobs now wtf 4 carries 0/7 guy thinks he's pro etc etc

[QUOTE=ashxu;34274998]How do solo Roshan as Ursa so early? Build/Skill order etc would be nice[/QUOTE] After your stating items and the boots, Vlads is your top priority and you should spend all your money on it. After you get it, you're leveled enough to solo Roshan. Just spam his second spell and his ultimate until you win the (very not) hard fight. [editline]18th January 2012[/editline] Also HOLY TITS I LOVE SPECTRE.

[QUOTE=ashxu;34274998]How do solo Roshan as Ursa so early? Build/Skill order etc would be nice[/QUOTE] Or with Skeleton King, he gets his Vampiric Aura, and Ursa gets Fury Swipes, you can solo at level one. It's very easy. I've actually managed it without the SK getting Vampiric Aura.

[QUOTE=melonmonkey;34269992]Yeah I think you're right. I want to discuss gameplay heroes and balance, but people don't want to debate they just want to insult me or state that I'm dumb because they disagree. Bye all![/QUOTE] see you dude im going to miss your cleverly formulated opinions on why lion is a bad hero (lol get it, because you just say "hes bad" and dont give any actual points) [editline]18th January 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=wraithcat;34274454]To be completely honest the moment someone in my game tries to coordinate people I tend to roll my eyes. Mostly because usually the people that do that are either awful at it, obnoxious about it or tend to do really stupid things. The worst are the minimap pingers though I guess. Well maybe after the voice chat folks. To be honest in the hard to land abilities heroes not played, wind runner is a pretty good exception. Her abilities are very strong, but both her Q and W are relatively though to hit ideally.[/QUOTE] you get frustrated at people trying to coordinate the team instead of playing it like a deathmatch?

What's the best noob stomper hero that's ranged/has good harass? Need some free wins. My fall back hero is Zeus. [editline]18th January 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=l l;34275644]Get a quick Vlads, get 1 or 2 in fury swipes, then max overpower you can do it at 4>[/QUOTE] Is it easy or barely scrape by?

[QUOTE=ashxu;34275984]What's the best noob stomper hero that's ranged/has good harass? Need some free wins. My fall back hero is Zeus.[/QUOTE] huskar is pubstomp king forever

[QUOTE=ashxu;34275984]What's the best noob stomper hero that's ranged/has good harass? Need some free wins. My fall back hero is Zeus. [editline]18th January 2012[/editline] Is it easy or barely scrape by?[/QUOTE] 1st question: Viper. Insane kiting skills and easy to play, he's like ranged version of skeleton 2nd question: I think you can't "solo" it at lvl 1 , but you need team to tank it 1 by 1 to get rosh at lvl1, prolly the entire team.

[QUOTE=Belivo;34276047] 2nd question: I think you can't "solo" it at lvl 1 , but you need team to tank it 1 by 1 to get rosh at lvl1, prolly the entire team.[/QUOTE] no [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ds1q0B9uYR4[/media]

When Roshing at level one, as Ursa I get a Stout Shield, a Quelling Blade and one Salve. I'm not sure about SK's item build. SK should tank first, then heal up. Ursa likely won't need to use his Salve, but he could heal SK if he's still low. [editline]18th January 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=The Mighty Boat;34276070]no [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ds1q0B9uYR4[/media][/QUOTE] Awful music, why would you even want a ROP? Get a Quelling Blade, kills Rosh quicker and isn't useless when you get back into lane.

[QUOTE=The Mighty Boat;34276070]no [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ds1q0B9uYR4[/media][/QUOTE] I was referring to the "without vampiric aura part" I have done this 3 times with a friend.

[QUOTE=Smashman;34276131]When Roshing at level one, as Ursa I get a Stout Shield, a Quelling Blade and one Salve. I'm not sure about SK's item build. SK should tank first, then heal up. Ursa likely won't need to use his Salve, but he could heal SK if he's still low. [editline]18th January 2012[/editline] Awful music, why would you even want a ROP? Get a Quelling Blade, kills Rosh quicker and isn't useless when you get back into lane.[/QUOTE] it isnt my video, just showing that you dont need 5 people to kill him at level 1 [editline]18th January 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Belivo;34276153]I was referring to the "without vampiric aura part" I have done this 3 times with a friend.[/QUOTE] oh right sorry, missed that

[QUOTE=Belivo;34276153]I was referring to the "without vampiric aura part" I have done this 3 times with a friend.[/QUOTE] It's possible. I've done it. Albeit with Lich's Frost Armor, which likely helps.

[QUOTE=Smashman;34276205]It's possible. I've done it. Albeit with Lich's Frost Armor, which likely helps.[/QUOTE] Once again, blegh, I just clear this up: 1st; Yes I know it's possible to take Rosh at lvl 1 as Ursa, but you can't [U]literally[/U] solo it, you need sk's help. 2nd; you can do it without vamp aura, but you need your entire team to tank it 1 by 1 since, well who would be able to tank Rosh alone at lv1 for 30-40 seconds without any help.

[QUOTE=Belivo;34276255]Once again, blegh, I just clear this up: 1st; Yes I know it's possible to take Rosh at lvl 1 as Ursa, but you can't [U]literally[/U] solo it, you need sk's help. 2nd; you can do it without vamp aura, but you need your entire team to tank it 1 by 1 since, well who would be able to tank Rosh alone at lv1 for 30-40 seconds without any help.[/QUOTE] No you can still do it with SK and Ursa alone without the Vampiric Aura. Tank, heal, thank, heal.