[sp]If anything, Titus's inability to see the prudence in going in for Inquisitorial questioning shows a failure of his own.
Darnath Lysander had to be thoroughly tested after his ordeal, why not Titus?[/sp]
[QUOTE=markg06;32271254]Or you take a block of whatever material you're building stuff out of, layer it so it looks like a book and just paint it.[/QUOTE]
No, I didn't mean that as a tabletop "how to do book", I meant that if it was real size titan and that book would have been with that same scale as it is now.
Those poor Imperial scribes.
[sp]Okay, here's the thing. If anyone had just blam'd Titus, that would be a dick move. But they didn't. He's just being examined by the Inquisition.
It will most likely be painful as fuck, but he's a Space Marine. He's probably experienced worse anyway.
But in the end, not only will he most likely be cleared of the charge of heresy, but they'll also have a confirmed Space Marine who's immune to the effects of the warp. And think of all the crazy shit that the Ordo Malleus can do with that?[/sp]
Spoiler tags? I don't exactly know what I read, but I'm pretty sure it spoiled something for me.
[QUOTE=aliendrone123;32281115]Spoiler tags? I don't exactly know what I read, but I'm pretty sure it spoiled something for me.[/QUOTE]
It's not really much of a spoiler if you only realize that it's a spoiler once it actually happens you know. But whatever.
Besides, the game's plot is hardly The Touch of Evil.
He needs to get checked out obviously but he can either get checked out within the chapter or they can call the Inquisition in and make everything a whole lot more shitty.
The only reason you would ever call them in voluntarily is if you are like Leandros and think everyone else is a heretic.
[QUOTE=Devodiere;32282032]He needs to get checked out obviously but he can either get checked out within the chapter or they can call the Inquisition in and make everything a whole lot more shitty.
The only reason you would ever call them in voluntarily is if you are like Leandros and think everyone else is a heretic.[/QUOTE]
[sp]So hide his warp inflicted wounds from the Inquisitor, and then spirit him off to a chapter stronghold where the Inquisition can't reach him? Yeah, I'm sure that would do much better for the Ultramarines. Especially since the Inquisition knows that they've been in contact with a device that secretes raw warp energy. They wouldn't expect a thing.
Having the Inquisition check him out is the best course of action. Not only does it mean that you strengthen ties with the Inquisition itself, which is invaluable for a number of reasons, but you don't have to hide one of your Captains most powerful abilities.
Captain Titus's childishness and indignation in the face of questioning is a sign of weakness and disloyalty that only reinforces how important it is he be examined.[/sp]
Leandros doesn't think everyone else is a heretic. He is a fiercely loyal and faithful member of the Astartes who follows every word of his chapter and his God. He follows their rules to the letter, and in many situations it is entirely justified.
He would make a fine Black Templar.
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Listen, if the Warp didn't have brainwashing capabilities or multiple malevolent and powerful deities controlling it, I would agree that Leandros was being a cunt. But considering how devastatingly dangerous it is, the greatest caution is justified.
Does anybody have a list of all the armors available in Space Marine?
[QUOTE=WilhelmScreamer;32278998]It is amazing how cheap 40k is on ebay.[/QUOTE]
But only unassembled IG kits they have there right now, are Sentinels. They do have a nice number of bits, which is kinda cool.
My friend almost bought a bag with around 100 wolf head shapped power armor helmets for his space wolves army.
[QUOTE=Joxalot;32282464]My friend almost bought a bag with around 100 wolf head shapped power armor helmets for his space wolves army.[/QUOTE]
Good to hear you killed him. It was the right thing to do.
Thanks god he didnt.
I knew he would buy all this warhammer shit and never give a fuck later.
What was bugging me is
Look at ebay list he made:
-Space Wolves pack with squads, convertion bits and codex
-Some crazyass commander
-More convertion bits
-100 wolf helmets
-A landraider
-Another landraider
-Some squads
[U][B]-REAVER TITAN[/B][/U]
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I see no problem with the wolf helmets though, they were pretty cool looking.
It's a space puppy bit, what you would expect beside having something to do with WOLVES?!
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;32282330][sp]So hide his warp inflicted wounds from the Inquisitor, and then spirit him off to a chapter stronghold where the Inquisition can't reach him? Yeah, I'm sure that would do much better for the Ultramarines. Especially since the Inquisition knows that they've been in contact with a device that secretes raw warp energy. They wouldn't expect a thing.
Having the Inquisition check him out is the best course of action. Not only does it mean that you strengthen ties with the Inquisition itself, which is invaluable for a number of reasons, but you don't have to hide one of your Captains most powerful abilities.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]I don't think you get it. Chapter issues stay within the chapter, even the Codex says so. Titus should have been taken to the Chapter Librarium to be checked out. And if you're going to blame Calgar on chaos corruption, wait about a week and you've got got an entire sector on your ass, with at least half of all the space marine chapters, PLUS the original legions (bros watch out for bros). The Inquisition very well knows that while they can command an Astartes to kneel, he won't have to comply. Dabbling with the marines at all is a very dumb thing to do, as Inquisitors who do so have a tendency to disappear. Let's think hypothetically here for a moment: Say, the whole =][= goes insane and blames the Ultramarines on heresy because they fail to give a shit about their commands to give over Titus. What are their choices? An all-out civil war with spess muhreens, probably a third of all navy fleets, shitloads of guard, and the most politically influential chapters. The other half of space marines would probably just sit back and watch the show. The =][= has the rest of the navy and shitloads of guard. Fairly even odds, as the High Lords wouldn't choose sides this early and the Mechanicum would most likely not participate. So, a conflict that can lasts for potentially thousands of years that will cripple and fragment the entire Imperium. I don't think either side would want that.
Well, the other choice is to take out the Ultramarines in one surgical strike before their allies can react, and hope that they won't join in once it's too late. So they slip by all the navy fleets in the sector and deploy... Who? Ironically, Space Marines are the best ones at killing Space Marines. The =][= would have no one on its side except maybe the Grey Knights and Minotaurs. Neither really stand a chance in this fight. [/sp]
[sp]There's a reason chapter matters stay within the chapter.[/sp]
[quote]As one might expect from an embodiment of the Ultramarines' nobility, Calgar is immune to fear and is resolutely courageous under fire; where lesser men would dive for cover when being fired upon, Marneus Calgar takes quick stock of the situation, decides the best course of action, and only if he so decides to leap into cover, then he will do so. [/quote]
Some Calgar fluff if absolutely hilarious. "[I]Hmm, I am being fired upon and I have only close combat weapons. I will sit here for a little while pondering the situation. Alright, I think I've been here long enough that my battle-brothers will not think of me as cowardly. Time to leap in cover![/I]" This is only after getting seven lascannon hits to the chest.
[QUOTE=cyclocius;32275600]Orks can also be killed by removing their Tusks. But fear not! A stern punch to the face will incapacitate most Orks long enough for you to tug their teeth free![/QUOTE]
Not teeth. Teef.
[QUOTE=Maximo13;32282965]Not teeth. Teef.[/QUOTE]
Why? Do they like bleed to death or some shit?
Or without the teef they dont look orky and instantly kill themselves for not being orky enough?
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Or they are like bees and their vital organs are attaches to them!
Teef regrow. I was only correcting him on the name. Teef are also currency, and the larger the teef, the better.
[QUOTE=Zezibesh;32282910][sp]I don't think you get it. Chapter issues stay within the chapter, even the Codex says so. Titus should have been taken to the Chapter Librarium to be checked out. And if you're going to blame Calgar on chaos corruption, wait about a week and you've got got an entire sector on your ass, with at least half of all the space marine chapters, PLUS the original legions (bros watch out for bros). The Inquisition very well knows that while they can command an Astartes to kneel, he won't have to comply. Dabbling with the marines at all is a very dumb thing to do, as Inquisitors who do so have a tendency to disappear. Let's think hypothetically here for a moment: Say, the whole =][= goes insane and blames the Ultramarines on heresy because they fail to give a shit about their commands to give over Titus. What are their choices? An all-out civil war with spess muhreens, probably a third of all navy fleets, shitloads of guard, and the most politically influential chapters. The other half of space marines would probably just sit back and watch the show. The =][= has the rest of the navy and shitloads of guard. Fairly even odds, as the High Lords wouldn't choose sides this early and the Mechanicum would most likely not participate. So, a conflict that can lasts for potentially thousands of years that will cripple and fragment the entire Imperium. I don't think either side would want that.
Well, the other choice is to take out the Ultramarines in one surgical strike before their allies can react, and hope that they won't join in once it's too late. So they slip by all the navy fleets in the sector and deploy... Who? Ironically, Space Marines are the best ones at killing Space Marines. The =][= would have no one on its side except maybe the Grey Knights and Minotaurs. Neither really stand a chance in this fight. [/sp]
[sp]There's a reason chapter matters stay within the chapter.[/sp]
Some Calgar fluff if absolutely hilarious. "[I]Hmm, I am being fired upon and I have only close combat weapons. I will sit here for a little while pondering the situation. Alright, I think I've been here long enough that my battle-brothers will not think of me as cowardly. Time to leap in cover![/I]" This is only after getting seven lascannon hits to the chest.[/QUOTE]
You aren't taking faith into account here. Space Marines are religious warrior monks. And Lord Inquisitors have arguably the highest authority in the Theocracy of the Imperium. For the Ultramarines to defy their will would be outright heresy, punishable by ex hereticus status and exterminatus, depending on how far they take it. Only the most deviant chapters would come to the aid of abject heretics, the Ultramarines would be virtually alone against the greatest warriors in the Imperium.
Inquisitor Lords do not just "disappear" whilst investigating marine chapters, and if they did, it would attract no small amount of attention from others.
And as for what chapters the Inquisition could call upon, the Black Templars spring to mind. You know, the 6,000 strong legion of zealous crusaders that really has a thing against heresy?
They are like... totally against that heresy shit man
[QUOTE=Joxalot;32283184]They are like... totally against that heresy shit man[/QUOTE]
[sp]Which is precisely why the Inquisition would get Titus if they wanted him regardless of what Leandros did.[/sp]
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[sp]I mean, at the end of the day, does it even fucking matter? I doubt the Inquisition is going to kill the liberator of a forgeworld and the slayer of a Daemon Prince unless they're completely fucking sure he's evil. And they probably have access to more resources pertaining to his condition than the chapter does.
The only way this could go wrong is if the Inquisitor questioning him decides to go medieval on his ass and hook him up to a Pain Glove. Though the likelyhood something that crude happening to someone as high profile as an Ultramarines Captain is slim to nil.[/sp]
Hey I dunno about you guys, but [sp]Sidonius dying was the saddest shit I've seen in a long time[/sp]
[QUOTE=Joxalot;32283252]Hey I dunno about you guys, but [sp]Sidonius dying was the saddest shit I've seen in a long time[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]It was way too obvious though. When Titus gave the artifact to Sidonius, I knew that he was a goner.[/sp]
[sp]Space Wolves told the Inquisition to go fuck themselves and they sure ain't heretics.
Still it's a matter of the Inquisition having power and them using that power. They may have power over the Astartes but using that power comes at a cost and they should only use it when they need to. If it's a matter that can be resolved within the chapter and they are adamant that it be done that way, they may have the power but it might still be in their interests to let them.
I more have a problem with Leandros bringing them into it in the first place. They may have an interest but bringing them in at that point rather than later on when more information was known was a stupid move.[/sp]
[QUOTE=PotatoArmada;32283272][sp]It was way too obvious though. When Titus gave the artifact to Sidonius, I knew that he was a goner.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]I was actually considering he would turn against them since he acted quite defencive over Liandros mentioning Titus' direct contact with warp but then BAM and his face and oh god why[/sp]
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;32283173]You aren't taking faith into account here. Space Marines are religious warrior monks. And Lord Inquisitors have arguably the highest authority in the Theocracy of the Imperium. For the Ultramarines to defy their will would be outright heresy, punishable by ex hereticus status and exterminatus, depending on how far they take it. Only the most deviant chapters would come to the aid of abject heretics, the Ultramarines would be virtually alone against the greatest warriors in the Imperium.
Inquisitor Lords do not just "disappear" whilst investigating marine chapters, and if they did, it would attract no small amount of attention from others.
And as for what chapters the Inquisition could call upon, the Black Templars spring to mind. You know, the 6,000 strong legion of zealous crusaders that really has a thing against heresy?[/QUOTE]
Marine tell Inquisitors where to get fucked all the time. In fact the Ordo X going to a space wolf held planet is pretty much akin to suicide unless your name is Kryptmann.
The fact that spoiler tags are really satisfying to reveal on an iPhone makes this 10 times more tempting to ruin Space Marine for myself. But I will resist :v:
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;32283173]
Inquisitor Lords do not just "disappear" whilst investigating marine chapters, and if they did, it would attract no small amount of attention from others.
And as for what chapters the Inquisition could call upon, the Black Templars spring to mind. You know, the 6,000 strong legion of zealous crusaders that really has a thing against heresy?[/QUOTE]
Inquisitor Lords do not investigate marine chapters, Inquisitors do, and if you went to say Fenris, for example, and started souting off that all the Space Wolves are heretics, I'm pretty sure you'd have a sudden and mysterious incident involving falling off the top of the Fang.
While Black Templars do, in theory have 6000 Marines, they're spread far and wide throughout the galaxy on Crusades.
Also, Space Wolves are bigger in size than the Black Templars, and they really, really don't like Inquisitors.
[QUOTE=RayvenQ;32283558]Inquisitor Lords do not investigate marine chapters, Inquisitors do, and if you went to say Fenris, for example, and started souting off that all the Space Wolves are heretics, I'm pretty sure you'd have a sudden and mysterious incident involving falling off the top of the Fang.
While Black Templars do, in theory have 6000 Marines, they're spread far and wide throughout the galaxy on Crusades.
Also, Space Wolves are bigger in size than the Black Templars, and they really, really don't like Inquisitors.[/QUOTE]
But Space Wolves are deviants on the way out because they don't follow the rules of Rowboat Girlyman, so they don't matter.
This is completely off of my original point, which was that handing him over to the Inquisition was the correct course of action. Especially considering that another certain Space Marine who had contact with the warp managed to fuck things up quite proper in Aurelia.
Does GW distribute death korps models?
I wish the Chaos armors in Space Marine had more variety, they all look the same.
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;32277766]God damn it Relic, not again. I just heard about the DLC and decided to look it up (for Space Marine) and it's another one of their over-priced skin packs.[/QUOTE]
Unless it's a skin for a Grey Knight, i doubt i'm going to buy any DLC for Space Marine.
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