[QUOTE=PunchedInFac;32355309]As a being of the warp you arent 'dead' when slain in the materium, you are just banished. As long as you are some sort of Warp being you are pretty much immortal unless destroyed in the Warp, and even then you aren't completely erased (Unless you are Horus).[/QUOTE]
So, essentially every warrior of Chaos is immortal?
Do Space Marines have something like that, like, if you count the gene-seed as a form of immortality.
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[QUOTE=Etcetera;32355289]Well, Eliphas was brought back via the power of plot, but what I assume he meant is that Daemons, like Necrons, simply return to their home (the warp, in this case), to gather their strength before returning, eventually, to kill more things.[/QUOTE]
Damn, i forgot.
Eliphas was brought back after he bargained his soul or something with Daemons.
Chaos didn't have a very big military force before the Heresy, it was mostly about corrupting individuals and thus bringing down planets, or the occasional gellar field malfunction. After the Heresy they got shitloads of soldiers though.
Just finished Space Marines, IMO it was pretty obvious that [sp]the inquisitor was a traitor.[/sp]
Also, where did the [sp]BLAWD RAVENS[/sp] suddenly come from?
On an unrelated note, my SPACE MARINE!
[thumb]http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/560919718437951136/C9E9A6CDF8D6BE948236ACA5C681F3E6B7C9D525/[/thumb]
I am not a creative man
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Suffer not the smurf to live
So is Lexicanum being constantly DDoS'd or hacked or w/e because the website is either slow as shit or completely down. Plus half the article content is gone.
[QUOTE=RainbowStalin;32356181][IMG]http://1d4chan.org/images/thumb/f/ff/Kharn.jpg/424px-Kharn.jpg[/IMG]
Suffer not the smurf to live[/QUOTE]
I'm guessing that's Kharn?
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[QUOTE=Zezibesh;32356235]So is Lexicanum being constantly DDoS'd or hacked or w/e because the website is either slow as shit or completely down. Plus half the article content is gone.[/QUOTE]
Perhaps the 40k wiki might be hacking/DDOSing Lexicanum, but i thought that Lexicanum was often rather slow.
Yeah it got it off some 4chan wiki page on Matt Ward.
It was labelled 'Send this to Matt Ward and watch him rage'.
So I played my first warhammer game yesterday, (retribution) and I love it, only question I have is if there is a warhammer game where you can build buildings, but still with capturing the points, sort of like company of heroes.
[QUOTE=DoctorRictofen;32356655]So I played my first warhammer game yesterday, (retribution) and I love it, only question I have is if there is a warhammer game where you can build buildings, but still with capturing the points, sort of like company of heroes.[/QUOTE]
Yeah.
Dawn of War: Dark Crusade.
[QUOTE=Hoboharry;32356670]Yeah.
Dawn of War: Dark Crusade.[/QUOTE]
Alright thanks man.
Best to get Dawn of War Gold Edition though, gets you DoW1, and two expansions... I think.
[QUOTE=bigbundie;32341504][img]http://1d4chan.org/images/8/8a/Carrionlord.jpg[/img]
[img]http://1d4chan.org/images/b/b2/The_Immortal_Emprah.jpg[/img]
More or less.[/QUOTE]
NO! Not the emperor!
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[QUOTE=shian;32337891]RO 2[/QUOTE]
Quite a bullshit answer if you ask me, RO2 has a massive uphill learning curve to accompany the realistic warfare. Space Marine is a game pretty much anyone can play, while RO2 is a niche game.
[QUOTE=Hoboharry;32356287]I'm guessing that's Kharn?
[/QUOTE]
He's a pretty cool guy, By that I mean hes just a big massive bro underneath that power armor.
[QUOTE=gufu;32350673]So here is a question - are there any Warp entities that are benign to humans?[/QUOTE]
Yeah there's essentially "warp angels" as well. Though the issue is, that in some cases they take stuff to the extreme as well.
Then there's non-deamonic entitites like enslavers that prey on humans and then there's also warp wildlife that ignores humans like warp beasts.
[QUOTE=Zezibesh;32353058]/tg/ always has great Ork conversion ideas
How about a looted Eldar skimmer tank carried by a pile of Gretchin and has a nob on top swinging his sword in a heroic pose? Or a warboss who is obsessed with a militaristic command structure, so all his boyz wear cadian helmets and many shootas are replaced with lasguns, nobs wear commissar hats, and the warboss himself stands behind the lines smoking a cigar and wearing a massive overcoat.[/QUOTE]
Well Snake Bites are very militarized in that fashion, I have been thinking of making a small army of snake bites and converting them slightly in their rogue trader fashion (german helmets with the spike on top, chain mail armour) and having this guy as my warboss:
[img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11648828/warhammer_40k_deff_skwadron_gn_%28wapazoid_dcp%29_27.jpg[/img]
And they'd look kinda like this
[img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11648828/3.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=PunchedInFac;32357587]He's a pretty cool guy, By that I mean hes just a big massive bro underneath that power armor.[/QUOTE]
Yeah.
I mean, in the end, all he wants to do is give blood to Khorne, he's a bro to Khorne.
[QUOTE=Vasili;32358029][img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11648828/3.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
That looks cool.
[QUOTE=Hoboharry;32358059]Yeah.
I mean, in the end, all he wants to do is give blood to Khorne, he's a bro to Khorne.[/QUOTE]
And Khorne himself is something of a bro, when you consider he just a corruption of bravery.
[QUOTE=Cone;32358126]And Khorne himself is something of a bro, when you consider he just a corruption of bravery.[/QUOTE]
In the old fluff he stood for martial honour and generally looked down upon on cold blooded murder, things that where dishonourable in general, Khorne had a bit of a Japanese faze.
[QUOTE=Cone;32358126]And Khorne himself is something of a bro, when you consider he just a corruption of bravery.[/QUOTE]
A corruption of bravery?
How so?
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[QUOTE=Vasili;32358207]In the old fluff he stood for martial honour and generally looked down upon on cold blooded murder, things that where dishonourable in general, Khorne had a bit of a Japanese faze.[/QUOTE]
Old fluff?
I didn't know that, though, wouldn't it be better to say that he had a sort of Samurai phase?
[QUOTE=imadaman;32355300]Also Khayos gods can revive people, apparently.[/QUOTE]
Lucius and Kharn are two good examples.
[QUOTE=Hoboharry;32358220]A corruption of bravery?
How so?
[/QUOTE]
Well, in a way, all the Chaos gods are corruptions of good, fundamental aspects of mankind.
Khorne, well, you need courage to charge into battle, do you not? I'd imagine you need to be strong to be omnicidal, too.
[QUOTE=Vasili;32351650]For someone who has been with humanity from the very beginning, you'd think he'd have a better understanding of humans and whats a good idea and whats bad, he ended up doing a lot of bad things like some sort of class space Hitler and Stalin which resulted in what we have today. Either way the actions he did were pure dickery and asshole attitudes which the writers were trying to portray by representing him with certain Gods in our own history. To be honest it wasn't even humanities fault when everything fell to shit, it was the Eldars and the birth of Slaanesh. Theres no real excuse for his actions because he's pretty self aware of what he's doing. The fact that he is thousands of years old and has lived a life of different occupations, lifestyles, social status and abilities a hundred times over should indicate that he should have more experience with human nature, familial relationships and social problems than anyone else.[/QUOTE]
The birth of Slaanesh was a prime example of why using the warp was dangerous. The Emperor is immune to all daemonic possession and so forth, as he is so powerful that even the ruinous powers themselves won't touch him. That's why he can further warp-related things safely while barring the use of it for those who AREN'T immune to most of its dangers.
[quote]They are all warp infused, the Emperor created the Primarchs by combining his DNA with the powers of the Warp. The Emperor was himself a Psyker, indeed the Psyker, and so he made pacts with Chaos to empower the Primarchs. However, the Chaos Gods learned of the Emperors plans, and that he had no intention of working toward their goals, and so stole the Primarchs away into the Warp and scattered them. There is a theory, however, that even this act was part of the Emperors pact with Chaos, a theory supported by the level of psychic wards and defences the Emperor had put in place around the genofactory in which the Primarchs were born.[/quote]
Like I said, I'm calling BS. Sure, the Primarches, due to the nature of their creation, weren't immune to corruption from the warp like the Emperor, but I'm pretty sure he didn't make a pact with the chaos gods. He was trying to HIDE them from the Chaos Gods, to avoid something like what actually happened.
[quote]It says purely by definition of word what they live off;
Slaanesh is the Chaos God of lust, excess, pleasure, perfection and hedonism.
Khorne is the Chaos god of anger, violence, and hate.
Nurgle represents morbidity, disease and physical corruption.
Tzeentch is a God of Chaos who represents the vitality and volatility of change.
Doesn't say they live off 'good' versions of these or 'bad' versions because that entirely depends on your opinion and definition of what you define as a pleasure or anger or vitality etc, even then a lot of the Chaos Gods core powers are pretty much universally fundamentalism for most alien races and part of life. [/quote]
The Emperor isn't stupid, he would not have pursued a peaceful lifestyle if it was not going to help with the chaos gods. Sure, it might not have destroyed them outright, but without those negative emotions they would have hardly any power, and thus wouldn't be a threat to humanity. I guess its just an unclear issue that GW hasn't clarified yet.
[quote]He bonded with a few primarchs and ignored the rest, resulting in jealousy and arrogance and bitterness towards eachother in brotherly feuding and eventually heresy. The whole primarch thing is really to do with daddy issues. [/quote]
Sure, it created weak points to which the daemons could exploit, but seriously, he favored Horus over every single one and he STILL turned to heresy. The feuding was probably "just as planned", as it drove the Primarchs to great lengths to impress dear old dad. I'd say it had little to do with their corruption.
[quote]The Mechanicus are a bunch of God worshiping idiots, something apparently the Emperor was against during his glory days. Not only is he an asshole but he's also a hypocrite who rules by what he likes and dislikes at the time, rather than a set of rules, he even goes against his own beliefs of anti religion for soul purpose of politics. As I said earlier, there is a theory that the Emperor knew of the heresy coming along, I mean he's the most powerful pysker in the galaxy after all and even a Eldar psyker foresaw it and tried to heed Fulgrim and his legion, so this leads to more speculation of why he caused all this shit to happen or rather let it happen, maybe he's a secret servant of Tzeentch or maybe he's really trying to ascend to Godhood after all for an actual godwin for mankind, not saying that I think that's bad, but well, Horus was right and so was his visions.[/quote]
"There is a theory" does not equal truth. Just because he is a powerful psyker does not mean he knows everything about the warp. He believed his sons to be immune to corruption like he was. And his love for Horus probably blinded him to the truth as well. And if he was a secret servant of Tzeentch, why would he endure endless, unimaginable tortured every second JUST to hold back the powers that would destroy humanity? You are speaking like a heretic sir.
[quote]Again another problem was the scale of things, the Emperor just couldn't capture all psykers in the galaxy, thats literally impossible or at least incredibly difficult, its kind of like how governments try to monitor drug trafficing in a way, the Emperor allowed psykers at one point and even had marine librarians but then decided to ban them all because he deemed unsafe and would rather keep humanity ignorant from Chaos (which is strange seeing the Emperor is now trying to hold on until humans evolve to be mini Emperors) The reason why The Imperium fell was because of the Imperial Truth and how half its forces fell to the seduction of the Ruinous powers because of the existence of daemons and gods which were denied as fabrications or lies. Building a warp gate on Holy Terra itself was a bad move, he was aware of the risks of doing so but rather just hang out in his ultra cool palace basement with a bunch of his fellow adeptus mechanicus nerds in building a giant golden toilet that breaks into the Eldar warp gate, even then the webways are not safe, some have collapsed and the fact the Emperor thought he could recreate something the Eldar didn't even know how to make (created by the Old Ones after all) was a bit of a joke. Now the Custodian guards have to fight little mini armies of daemons pouring through the warp daily right behind the Emperors throne as he barely holds back the endless wave of daemons. [/quote]
He didn't capture all psykers. When he banned librarians, he trusted his legions to heed his word and stop. And it wasn't like one day he went *POP* I THINK I'LL BAN PSYKERS TODAY. The other legions were going apeshit over the Thousand Sons' practices. They believed it would create "Old Night" (Fall of the Eldar) again. He made the decision because he thought it would be the right one, and it would also appease the legions that were against it. The reason the Imperium fell is because of Horus and his bitchiness, not because of the Imperial Truth. The Imperial Truth was logic and reason. It denied the existence of chaos because of what its ACTUALLY doing today: The moment someone decides that their life sucks, they know that there is another life serving the ruinous powers that they can choose. The amount of heretical Imperial natives, space marines and normal humans alike, has never been higher. They don't call the Crusade the best time in the Imperium for no reason. And he accessed (did not build, the webway was already there) the webway because it would make warp travel infinitely safer for the Imperium, as the webway, even though it was broken in parts, was much safer then traveling the warp itself. And considering he himself was overseeing it, its doubtful that any warp entity would be able to fuck it up. That's where Magnus comes in.
Really, what happened was that the Emperor was guiding mankind along the right path, but it was his bastard sons that fucked everything up because they accepted the temptations of chaos, even though the Emperor warned them. Then, when they brought untold destruction to the empire, the Emperor practically died for THEIR sins, and now the Imperium is being held by a god damn thread as a result. If anything, the Primarches are the assholes, and the Emperor is even more of a bro.
Magicka just got updated.
And they added a Space Marine robe. With a Librarian staff, and a bolt pistol.
FOR FREE!!!!!!
[img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/1315971016400.jpg[/img]
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Poor Typhus.
[QUOTE=aliendrone123;32358864]Magicka just got updated.
And they added a Space Marine robe. With a Librarian staff, and a bolt pistol.
FOR FREE!!!!!![/QUOTE]
That's awesome.
Too bad Magicka doesn't work for me, but when it does, who's up for going facepunch librarian style in PVP?
For those who own it, that is.
[QUOTE=Hoboharry;32359232]That's awesome.
Too bad Magicka doesn't work for me, but when it does, who's up for going facepunch librarian style in PVP?
For those who own it, that is.[/QUOTE]
I know I would be.
[QUOTE=Hoboharry;32359232]That's awesome.
Too bad Magicka doesn't work for me, but when it does, who's up for going facepunch librarian style in PVP?
For those who own it, that is.[/QUOTE]
Count me in.
Why are there no black people in the Imperium?
[QUOTE=Big Orca;32359310]Why are there no black people in the Imperium?[/QUOTE]
JONAH ORION.
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