Warhammer 40k: Megathread V1 - FOR THE EMPEROR - Games

[QUOTE=keroba;32409201]I doubt anyone would pick Nurgle, it's just the stench that never gets of your clothes.[/QUOTE] And it totally ruins your chances of ever getting laid again when your intestines are hanging out.

[QUOTE=keroba;32409201]I doubt anyone would pick Nurgle, it's just the stench that never gets of your clothes.[/QUOTE] Shouldn't be who you pick, but who you fit. I know a few people that would fit perfectly with Nurgle, that or they haven't discovered soap yet. [editline]21st September 2011[/editline] On the other hand people that fit with Khorne are hard to come by, seeing as Khorne doesn't really care for people who are just retarded violence-addicts (I doubt Khorne likes you because you beat up some nerd at school, had a slapfight with someone else, or shot someone in the back the ran for it). Even fewer would fit Tzeench, I guess most of those that do are in politics.

[QUOTE=Hoboharry;32408545]How about fucking it up even more? [sp]The Grey Knights use it to power up a Dreadknight the size of a titan?[/sp] :v:[/QUOTE] Hope to fuck matt ward isnt reading this thread

So I just started up a Guard army with my list so far. [quote]Command squad - Plasma Rifle/Pistol Infantry Platoon* *Platoon command - Autocannon - vox - Standard *Infantry - Autocannon - vox *Infantry - Autocannon - vox Veteran Squad - Grenade launcher Veteran Squad - Grenade Launcher Armored Sentinel - Plasma Cannon[/quote] So far its only 500 Points and Today I am planning on picking up either more Sentinels to finish the Squadron or some other sort of armor. This sounding like a solid list?

Also, regarding the 'favorite Chaos god discussion': In the end, it's best to worship Chaos Undivided, if you become favored by Chaos Undivided, you'll essentially be supported by all four Chaos gods, excluding Malal.

[QUOTE=MajorMattem;32409470]Hope to fuck matt ward isnt reading this thread[/QUOTE] I hope he is, and I hope he realises that no one likes him, leaves Games Workshop and spends the rest of his life stocking shelves.

[QUOTE=markg06;32409793]I hope he is, and I hope he realises that no one likes him, leaves Games Workshop and spends the rest of his life stocking shelves.[/QUOTE] Matt Ward does have some skill when it comes to writing, but it would be best if he directed his writing towards Warhammer Fantasy or something, so long as he doesn't fuck up the Tomb Kings, in my opinion.

I'd be alright with Wardexes if they weren't such fluffrape He's a lesser evil in making rules

He would do great with Warhammer fantasy. Purely because of all the stupid shit he does, it would be put up with more easily. Since they could just kind of shrug it off seeing as how they already have batshit insane spin offs like Blood bowl.

[QUOTE=Shadowcat123;32409756]So I just started up a Guard army with my list so far. So far its only 500 Points and Today I am planning on picking up either more Sentinels to finish the Squadron or some other sort of armor. This sounding like a solid list?[/QUOTE] I would think about jiggling points around so you can take a lascannon or a missile launcher instead of one of the autocannons to provide some anti-vehicle support, and another one for a heavy bolter. I'm not particulary sold on autocannons to be honest, they aren't really strong enough to damage anything but light vehicles, and they lack in AP as well so they don't really pull their weight as anti- heavy infantry, and due to only two shots they are outshone by the heavy bolter against hordes.

[QUOTE=Nikota;32409842]He would do great with Warhammer fantasy. Purely because of all the stupid shit he does, it would be put up with more easily. Since they could just kind of shrug it off seeing as how they already have batshit insane spin offs like Blood bowl.[/QUOTE] He'll probably never get let close to the Fantasy rules ever again, after that one codex incident Codex: Grey Knights isn't even bad compared to the WFB Daemons codex

[QUOTE=DTkach;32405215] And the Emperor is a god-like being. The Chaos Gods are ACTUAL GODS. Even if he came back and learned to shit bullets he wouldn't be able to kill them. In the warp they are invincible and eternal.[/QUOTE] Technically they're not really Gods, its kind of a self inflicted name they gave themselves. Its also possible to kill Gods as we found out with the Eldar ones, its also possible to 'kill' a daemon if you do it right.

[QUOTE=Hoboharry;32408666]So let's say the Necrons, Tyranids and Chaos are all heading towards the Imperium to desecrate planets and to kill the Emperor. Would that be a bad enough situation for them to revive him?[/QUOTE] If they are winning yes. One thing nobody notes though is the upper echelons of Terran power are fucked when the emperor wakes up... he's not going to be happy and they know it. So reviving him will actually depend on what the Custodes decide is the right action, cause even the Lords of Terra don't have the power to stop them, and they're likely to try, being as when the emperor wakes up, they're probably the first thing he's going to kill.

[QUOTE=acds;32407699]If the Emperor hadn't held back he'd have obliterated Horus the moment he entered the room. Also Horus was fully backed by all 4 Chaos gods, which had never happened before. During the fight against the Emperor he might not have been as powerful as the Gods themselves, but he could have defeated any Greater Daemon with one hand and blindfolded (possibly [B]the[/B] most powerful Daemon, Doombreed (who, by the description, might be Hitler), was in fact under Horus' command). Which is why the Chaos Gods shat themselves when the Emperor annihilated Horus, heck if that was pointed at one of them maybe we'd have 3 Chaos gods now instead of 4 (also this was when the Emperor was already mortally wounded), or at least 3 functioning ones and one in a wheelchair.[/QUOTE] Think about it: Khorne's most powerful bloodthirster (at the time) attacked him, and basically put a tiny chink in his armor. This bloodthirster could scour entire worlds by itself. Not to mention, for the Emperor to fight one of the Chaos Gods, he would need to go into the Warp, where they are eternal. He wouldn't be able to kill any of them, no matter how powerful.

Sure he could (potentially). They are coherent in their own, but that coherency is not absolute. The energy would still be there, but what is comprises it is plenty malleable. He just has to destroy the construct to win. The energy remains, but what composes the personality is gone. Seems pretty dead to me.

[QUOTE=27X;32411517]Sure he could (potentially). They are coherent in their own, but that coherency is not absolute. The energy would still be there, but what is comprises it is plenty malleable. He just has to destroy the construct to win. The energy remains, but what composes the personality is gone. Seems pretty dead to me.[/QUOTE] Magnus blew up Tzeentch and Tzeentch isn't gone. He encountered him in the Warp, had a chat, then "destroyed" him, then Tzeentch came back later going "lolno". Also how does one apply logic to what is essentially chaos. There are no rules in the Warp, that's the point.

[QUOTE=DTkach;32411662]Magnus blew up Tzeentch and Tzeentch isn't gone. He encountered him in the Warp, had a chat, then "destroyed" him, then Tzeentch came back later going "lolno". Also how does one apply logic to what is essentially chaos. There are no rules in the Warp, that's the point.[/QUOTE] Magnus blew up Tzeentch? I haven't heard of this, why did he blow Tzeentch up?

Are we forgetting the fact that the emperor did something the chaos gods can't do? He completely and utterly scoured Horus's soul from existence, not even the chaos gods have the power to do that.

[QUOTE=Hoboharry;32411717]Magnus blew up Tzeentch? I haven't heard of this, why did he blow Tzeentch up?[/QUOTE] Tzeentch-chaos god Magnus=loyalist to the Imperium at the time(I believe), fighting against Chaos erm

[QUOTE=bigbundie;32411889]Tzeentch-chaos god Magnus=loyalist to the Imperium at the time(I believe), fighting against Chaos erm[/QUOTE] He didn't say when it occurred, so don't 'erm' me, please.

[QUOTE=DTkach;32411662]Magnus blew up Tzeentch and Tzeentch isn't gone. He encountered him in the Warp, had a chat, then "destroyed" him, then Tzeentch came back later going "lolno". Also how does one apply logic to what is essentially chaos. There are no rules in the Warp, that's the point.[/QUOTE] Magnus and the Emperor aren't exactly equals, and he "blew up" the Lord of Illusions and Lies. The Emperor may have better luck, seeing as he has literally erased beings from COMPLETE existence in any form. The C'Tan and Eldar have shown Chaos is not immune to destruction. It's all on whatever GW decides. *shrug*

[QUOTE=Hoboharry;32411717]Magnus blew up Tzeentch? I haven't heard of this, why did he blow Tzeentch up?[/QUOTE] Gist of it is: Magnus was on some random planet that had a webway under some warp-suppressing mountain or another. Inside, he encounters a daemon, which tells him it is some weird name, the "daemon of dispersion". He talks to it, then smashes it to pieces and the shit effecting the mountain stops. Later on, after shit hits the fan and the Wolves invade Prospero, the daemon appears again, in the material world, before him, alive and well. Then it explains that the name it told him was irrelevant and that it was a "god of the warp". And considering in lore Magnus is said to have been corrupted by Tzeentch, its easy to conclude that the "daemon of dispersion" = Tzeentch.

[QUOTE=Hoboharry;32411917]He didn't say when it occurred, so don't 'erm' me, please.[/QUOTE] Apologies. (how I could misspell such a simple word, I do not know)

Also the daemon of dispersion appears as a snake that undulates constantly. Sound familiar?

[QUOTE=DTkach;32412021]Gist of it is: Magnus was on some random planet that had a webway under some warp-suppressing mountain or another. Inside, he encounters a daemon, which tells him it is some weird name, the "daemon of dispersion". He talks to it, then smashes it to pieces and the shit effecting the mountain stops. Later on, after shit hits the fan and the Wolves invade Prospero, the daemon appears again, in the material world, before him, alive and well. Then it explains that the name it told him was irrelevant and that it was a "god of the warp". And considering in lore Magnus is said to have been corrupted by Tzeentch, its easy to conclude that the "daemon of dispersion" = Tzeentch.[/QUOTE] Oh, i remember reading about that, the whole 'i'll rid your legion of mutations' thing, but i don't remember reading about him destroying Tzeentch and Tzeentch coming back later, perhaps Lexicanum didn't have that information, i guess. [editline]21st September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=bigbundie;32412049]Apologizes.[/QUOTE] Oh, it's okay, apology accepted, i was just a bit frustrated.

[QUOTE=Hoboharry;32412154]Oh, i remember reading about that, the whole 'i'll rid your legion of mutations' thing, but i don't remember reading about him destroying Tzeentch and Tzeentch coming back later, perhaps Lexicanum didn't have that information, i guess. [editline]21st September 2011[/editline] Oh, it's okay, apology accepted, i was just a bit frustrated.[/QUOTE] Its not expressly stated it is Tzeentch, but it is implied.

[QUOTE=DTkach;32411398]Think about it: Khorne's most powerful bloodthirster (at the time) attacked him, and basically put a tiny chink in his armor. This bloodthirster could scour entire worlds by itself. Not to mention, for the Emperor to fight one of the Chaos Gods, he would need to go into the Warp, where they are eternal. He wouldn't be able to kill any of them, no matter how powerful.[/QUOTE] Khorne's most powerful Bloodthirster wasn't even near Horus' power when he was backed by the combined power of all 4 Gods. Some of the ancient Daemon Princes (like Doombreed, who are even more powerful than the Daemon Primarches) were sitting at the sides simply watching the battle, if they could have helped against the Emperor, they would have. They aren't eternal, far from it. The Emperor [B]deleted[/B] Horus' soul from the warp, which by all rules of the universe should be impossible. In fact the Starchild theory, which also fits an Eldar prophecy, has the Emperor reincarnate, enter the warp and destroy the Chaos gods.

[QUOTE=acds;32412211]Khorne's most powerful Bloodthirster wasn't even near Horus' power when he was backed by the combined power of all 4 Gods. Some of the ancient Daemon Princes (like Doombreed, who are even more powerful than the Daemon Primarches) were sitting at the sides simply watching the battle, if they could have helped against the Emperor, they would have. They aren't eternal, far from it. The Emperor [B]deleted[/B] Horus' soul from the warp, which by all rules of the universe should be impossible. In fact the Starchild theory, which also fits an Eldar prophecy, has the Emperor reincarnate, enter the warp and destroy the Chaos gods.[/QUOTE] The Emperor deleted his soul probably as a last act, because he knew how fucked he was. I severely doubt he could do so regularly. And he did it because he knew that Horus would be back, that the Chaos Gods would see that his soul was taken and given a second chance (like Eliphas). When a daemon is destroyed in the material world, it is simply banished back into the warp. Take the hur dur Grandmaster of the Grey Knights. He destroyed the daemon primarch Mortarion. But it says he was simply banished to the warp, rather than being outright destroyed. And the Eldar prophecy is that when all Eldar die, and their soulstones are gathered together, they will merge and form a new Eldar God: Ynnead, who is said to go then and stab Slaanesh in the face.

[QUOTE=DTkach;32412359]The Emperor deleted his soul probably as a last act, because he knew how fucked he was. I severely doubt he could do so regularly. And he did it because he knew that Horus would be back, that the Chaos Gods would see that his soul was taken and given a second chance (like Eliphas). When a daemon is destroyed in the material world, it is simply banished back into the warp. Take the hur dur Grandmaster of the Grey Knights. He destroyed the daemon primarch Mortarion. But it says he was simply banished to the warp, rather than being outright destroyed. And the Eldar prophecy is that when all Eldar die, and their soulstones are gathered together, they will merge and form a new Eldar God: Ynnead, who is said to go then and stab Slaanesh in the face.[/QUOTE] He doesn't need to do so regularly, as there are only 4 Chaos Gods (unless he wants to fuck up the Ork ones as well, the it's a total of 6 warp gods). Also he did that when he was mortally wounded, yet he managed to gather enough strength to do what should be impossible. The Eldar prophecy is pretty damn similar. Except it's that once humanity's desire for the Emperor to return is enough to strengthen what's left of him, then he will go and stab the Chaos gods in the face. [editline]21st September 2011[/editline] [quote]Psilencers are a type of psionic weapon created by an unknown Xeno race and made use of by the Grey Knights Chapter. Whether the technology is stolen or freely given to the Grey Knights is not known; all that is known is that it is of alien design as it unlike any weapon within the armouries of the Imperium.[/quote] Using a Xeno weapon? Shouldn't that be heresy?

Xenotech is used all the time in the Imperium whether the High Lords would like to admit it or not.