[QUOTE=RayvenQ;32631173]Using a white spray (or primer) prime them white, then paint the areas where you want them to be brown black, and then brown and paint the yellow on top of the white, painting yellow on top of black is a long, difficult and often disastrous process.[/QUOTE]
Well, I got Chaos Black Undercoat, and I'll be using Sunburst Yellow for the armor ontop of that. They're all Citadel paints. Shouldn't that work just fine?
Although I think they ripped me off. In the picture for the starter set they picture 10 bottles of paint. Sunburst yellow is there and it's even open. But in the description it only lists nine and yellow isn't one. In which case: FUCK
Well anyway. If I try and paint a figure and it turns out "Wow this is terrible." is there anyway to remove the paint with a acid or something like that so I can get the proper colors or give it a second go?
[QUOTE=Da_Arwin;32631520][B]Before[/B]
[IMG_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/l8hCK.jpg[/IMG_thumb]
[B]After[/B]
[IMG_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/pILVf.jpg[/IMG_thumb]
What do you guys think? I try to go for a grittier Ork look. I think the normal color used for their skin is too bright.[/QUOTE]
Not too bad, needs more devlan mud (its seriously like it was created for orks) especially on the skin, what colour did you use as a base?
Also, you might want to think of using Knarloc green for your nobs/bosses.
[thumb]http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/5732/20110206052659.jpg[/thumb]
was, iirc knarloc green, devlan mud, thraka green and a ever so light dusting of dheneb stone.
[editline]5th October 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;32631953]Well, I got Chaos Black Undercoat, and I'll be using Sunburst Yellow for the armor ontop of that. They're all Citadel paints. Shouldn't that work just fine?
Although I think they ripped me off. In the picture for the starter set they picture 10 bottles of paint. Sunburst yellow is there and it's even open. But in the description it only lists nine and yellow isn't one. In which case: FUCK[/QUOTE]
Yellow is a really tricky one to paint, no matter what the range, Yellows, Red and white generally all have the same problem as they have low amount of pigment. Add that to the darkness of black and you get terrible coverage.
and if it's this set: [url]http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod920007a[/url]
Thats not sunburst yellow.
Nope, I got the bigger one. Had cutters, glue and all that jazz. It may be gunmetal now that I look at it, I think I counted the top as a different one, because know I'm counting nine.
I saw a tutorial where he used chaos black undercoat and than applied a white paint and I didn't see anything wrong. Can you just put two coats on of those colors ontop of black and it'll eventually just be thick enough to provide the proper color?
Not really, if you put enough coats on, eventually you may get an even coat, but you'd need to thin it to not make it look horrible, which needs even more coats, since that's his first ork, I've pretty much told you the best way to do it in accordance with his skill set.
Who was the guy that did the tutorial, if you can remember?
Is it me or is painting Tyranids really hard compared to some other races? This is taking me quite a while to paint.
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;32632254]Is it me or is painting Tyranids really hard compared to some other races? This is taking me quite a while to paint.[/QUOTE]
How exactly are you painting them? Post pictures.
[QUOTE=Shadowcat123;32632289]How exactly are you painting them? Post pictures.[/QUOTE]
Kinda' hard at the moment, considering I just put them away. I'll do so tomorrow afternoon, but I think it might just be my OCD. I'm painting details on each individual fleshy piece on them, you can guess where that's going.
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;32632254]Is it me or is painting Tyranids really hard compared to some other races? This is taking me quite a while to paint.[/QUOTE]
We told you bro, we told you about the Tyranids.
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;32632327]Kinda' hard at the moment, considering I just put them away. I'll do so tomorrow afternoon, but I think it might just be my OCD. I'm painting details on each individual fleshy piece on them, you can guess where that's going.[/QUOTE]
Personally I always do the base colour first, then secondary colour followed by details and finishing's doing each model like this one stage at a time until all of them are in the "finishing stage" usually takes me about 2-3 hours for 40 basic troops.
Whats the best base coat for Cadian guardsmen, I'm going for a urban camo look.
probably Adeptus Battlegrey it's a Foundation paint too so it sticks well
What armies do you collect RayvenQ? Space marines? Also would you like to play some Space Marine multiplayer? None of my friends are really into Warhammer 40k.
[QUOTE=Kevinsevenalt;32633111]Whats the best base coat for Cadian guardsmen, I'm going for a urban camo look.[/QUOTE]
Personal I like spraying mine Chaos Black and Codex Grey as a primary, from there fortress grey and skull white go great with a camo scheme
[QUOTE=Kevinsevenalt;32633366]What armies do you collect RayvenQ? Space marines? Also would you like to play some Space Marine multiplayer? None of my friends are really into Warhammer 40k.[/QUOTE]
Space Marines, Necrons, Guard, Space Wolves and Skaven
[QUOTE=RayvenQ;32633787]Space Marines, Necrons, Guard, Space Wolves and Skaven[/QUOTE]
Do you have any pictures?
Nope, ironically despite me giving out all the painting advice that I do, i have very few models actually completely painted, I've the attention span of a magpie.
[QUOTE=RayvenQ;32632096]Not really, if you put enough coats on, eventually you may get an even coat, but you'd need to thin it to not make it look horrible, which needs even more coats, since that's his first ork, I've pretty much told you the best way to do it in accordance with his skill set.
Who was the guy that did the tutorial, if you can remember?[/QUOTE]
I just googled Warhammer 40k Painting Guide and it came up.
[url]http://www.heresy-online.net/forums/showthread.php?t=6734[/url]
It's not white like I remember, it's gray but I figured there wasn't a terrible difference.
[QUOTE=RayvenQ;32633973]Nope, ironically despite me giving out all the painting advice that I do, i have very few models actually completely painted, I've the attention span of a magpie.[/QUOTE]
I build entire armies with great lore detail and conversions but then I can never make myself paint more than five or so models for the particular force, bad attention span.
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;32621760] Which god, and why?[/QUOTE]
Tzeentch or Khorne for sure.
Khrone because I won't get totally mutated into horrific abomination (Slaneesh and Nurgle), but instead I'd be able to wear amazing armors and kill everything FOR THE BLOOD GOD (Posessed vikings).
Tzeentch because of the mystics and powers. Being a chaos sorcerer would be just too god damn cool, dem armors, dem knowledges and dat voice.
[editline]5th October 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Vasili;32634592]I build entire armies with great lore detail and conversions but then I can never make myself paint more than five or so models for the particular force, bad attention span.[/QUOTE]
I feel you, this is what I always end up "doing".
In terms of which God I'd follow, I doubt I'd be able to make myself pick just one faction, being undivided keeps your options open which few really appreciated. I could have Tzeentch wisdom and foresight with Slaanesh pleasure through pain and with Khornes battle strength and with Nurgle well - I like to stay clean - I hate greasy hands and hair and the feeling of oily skin let alone boils and blisters and my intestines falling out of my anus.
[QUOTE=Vasili;32634626]In terms of which God I'd follow, I doubt I'd be able to make myself pick just one faction, being undivided keeps your options open which few really appreciated. I could have Tzeentch wisdom and foresight with Slaanesh pleasure through pain and with Khornes battle strength and with Nurgle well - I like to stay clean - I hate greasy hands and hair and the feeling of oily skin let alone boils and blisters and my intestines falling out of my anus.[/QUOTE]
But don't worry Nurgle will feel you anus for you
Not in that way.
[QUOTE=Cone;32634643]But don't worry Nurgle will feel you anus for you
Not in that way.[/QUOTE]
There must be Nurgle troopers who strangle enemies to death with their own intestines.
Also, Slahneesh created FATAL.
The foresight of Tzeentch(Mind), the pleasure through battle of Slaanesh(Nerves), the durability of Nurgle(Body) and the strength and conviction of Khorne(Strength).
Which is pretty much how I imagined Horus was like during that last battle
[QUOTE=Vasili;32634592]I build entire armies with great lore detail and conversions but then I can never make myself paint more than five or so models for the particular force, bad attention span.[/QUOTE]
Hence why it was a bad idea to buy two grands worth of models, its overwhelming, should have just bought a box at a time and plan it so you're not painting two of the same boxes in a row, for variety.
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;32634497]I just googled Warhammer 40k Painting Guide and it came up.
[url]http://www.heresy-online.net/forums/showthread.php?t=6734[/url]
It's not white like I remember, it's gray but I figured there wasn't a terrible difference.[/QUOTE]
There is a great difference, white is absoloutely terrible for on a black coat.
If i wanted varying shadows on white I'd paint adeptus battlegrey for the really dark spots, astronominican grey for the lighter and then finish off with 6-7 layers of skull white.
[QUOTE=Shadowcat123;32633045]Personally I always do the base colour first, then secondary colour followed by details and finishing's doing each model like this one stage at a time until all of them are in the "finishing stage" usually takes me about 2-3 hours for 40 basic troops.[/QUOTE]
By the emperor you're fast, 40 troops in 3 hours? It takes me an hour or two for a set of ten hormagaunts.
[QUOTE=RayvenQ;32633973]Nope, ironically despite me giving out all the painting advice that I do, i have very few models actually completely painted, I've the attention span of a [b]magpie.[/b][/QUOTE]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/4MyxX.png[/img]
[QUOTE=Devodiere;32630494]Think it's DoW2 Retribution, [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbmDLVFAaec]here's the speech.[/url]
Slaanesh is shit because he's nothing but sex and drugs. Not only does the sex and drugs thing get really old after a while, you get desensitised to it and have to find even worse things to do. It turns into the cycle of a junkie and since you have dedicated your life to it you're in deep shit.
Then there's down time. You can't be fighting all the time so there's some parts where you just sit back. Tzeentch has plans but it's not that important, Nurgle lets you do whatever and loves you for it, Khorne ignores you when there's no fighting to be had but Slaanesh is at home when not fighting. You have to always do the sex and drugs routine and you're only away from that when fighting, they're even worse at fighting because wanking 24/7 doesn't help against a chainsword.[/QUOTE]
Gah - you realise that the gods are usually described purely from an imperial viewpoint in which case most of what you say applies.
But each of them is vastly more complex and encompasses both negative and positive aspects. The fact that in most sentient species the negative ones tend to be more prevalent than the positive ones is merely one of the reasons that wh40k is so fucked up.
Essentially slaneesh also embodies creativity the will to create something and a striving for success. His followers though will usually take this positive traits and warp them all the way which makes them look more evil. For another positive aspect embodied by a chaos god - Nurgle is hope.
But the same applies to all the chaos gods. The basic attributes are taken by their followers and then magnified.
As to slaneeshi people being bad at fighting. Considering combat drugs and martial prowess is merely one form of excess (see eldar for a good rundown of this) most will be just as deadly a combatant as most others.
For the record - in some lore slaneesh is regard as the strongest of the chaos gods who will end up sooner or later absorbing the rest. As striving to excess or the absolute limit and beyond is a tagline of the god. But the followers of all the gods do it. In their respective aspects but still do.
[QUOTE=wraithcat;32635642]Gah - you realise that the gods are usually described purely from an imperial viewpoint in which case most of what you say applies.
But each of them is vastly more complex and encompasses both negative and positive aspects. The fact that in most sentient species the negative ones tend to be more prevalent than the positive ones is merely one of the reasons that wh40k is so fucked up.
Essentially slaneesh also embodies creativity the will to create something and a striving for success. His followers though will usually take this positive traits and warp them all the way which makes them look more evil. For another positive aspect embodied by a chaos god - Nurgle is hope.
But the same applies to all the chaos gods. The basic attributes are taken by their followers and then magnified.
As to slaneeshi people being bad at fighting. Considering combat drugs and martial prowess is merely one form of excess (see eldar for a good rundown of this) most will be just as deadly a combatant as most others.
For the record - in some lore slaneesh is regard as the strongest of the chaos gods who will end up sooner or later absorbing the rest. As striving to excess or the absolute limit and beyond is a tagline of the god. But the followers of all the gods do it. In their respective aspects but still do.[/QUOTE]
Then a philosopher saves the day by saying: You have not achieved excess in sloth and lethargy.
[QUOTE=wraithcat;32635642]Gah - you realise that the gods are usually described purely from an imperial viewpoint in which case most of what you say applies.
But each of them is vastly more complex and encompasses both negative and positive aspects. The fact that in most sentient species the negative ones tend to be more prevalent than the positive ones is merely one of the reasons that wh40k is so fucked up.
Essentially slaneesh also embodies creativity the will to create something and a striving for success. His followers though will usually take this positive traits and warp them all the way which makes them look more evil. For another positive aspect embodied by a chaos god - Nurgle is hope.
But the same applies to all the chaos gods. The basic attributes are taken by their followers and then magnified.
As to slaneeshi people being bad at fighting. Considering combat drugs and martial prowess is merely one form of excess (see eldar for a good rundown of this) most will be just as deadly a combatant as most others.
For the record - in some lore slaneesh is regard as the strongest of the chaos gods who will end up sooner or later absorbing the rest. As striving to excess or the absolute limit and beyond is a tagline of the god. But the followers of all the gods do it. In their respective aspects but still do.[/QUOTE]
Many Slaanesh followers also strive for perfection, so i'm sure many of them will be Master Swordsmen or things like that.
I would like to get into wh 40.000 (not gaming but the universe itself), where should i start? There is just too much books and fictions and all...
[QUOTE=Vasili;32634592]I build entire armies with great lore detail and conversions but then I can never make myself paint more than five or so models for the particular force, bad attention span.[/QUOTE]
Its funny, because i'd just completed the last of my own bought box sets and i'd just bought my first box of genestealers when my freind at work goes,my tyranids! take all of them! and now I'm sat with all this lot
[img_thumb]http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/1343/imag0055l.jpg[/img_thumb]
(thats about 20 mixed gaunts 12 or so genestealers a ravener and a lictor and assorted ripper swarms and scenery)
since getting those £80 worth of models or so i've only washed my genestealers and painted 1 of them and a ravener..desperately trying not to paint the lictor till i've painted the rest...he's such an awesome model..
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