[QUOTE=Hoboharry;32699028]Sort of makes me wonder why they use imperial guardsmen.
I'd think that they'd win much more easily with Leman Russes constantly firing at the enemy and Valkyries deploying elite troops from behind the enemy.[/QUOTE]
Because guardsmen are cheaper to throw at your enemy then expensive equipment :v:
Probably because if you've razed a hive you have to rebuild it and that takes years.
[QUOTE=Shadowcat123;32699077]Because guardsmen are cheaper to throw at your enemy then expensive equipment :v:[/QUOTE]
But what if you trained like 25% of an amount of guardsmen to become elite soldiers, and the rest to become workers and miners to build vehicles and aircraft and such?
[QUOTE=Hoboharry;32699189]But what if you trained like 25% of an amount of guardsmen to become elite soldiers, and the rest to become workers and miners to build vehicles and aircraft and such?[/QUOTE]
Then that small offensive force defects to Chaos, and you've got a fuckton of Kasrkin melting your poorly-trained engineers with hot-shot Lasguns.
And then, when they finally nuke the fuckers with Leman Russ tanks, you've got no infantry and only tanks that can be stopped with a few missiles.
[QUOTE=Hoboharry;32699189]But what if you trained like 25% of an amount of guardsmen to become elite soldiers, and the rest to become workers and miners to build vehicles and aircraft and such?[/QUOTE]
Then the enemy would still have ammo
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;32693434]I added details to the Fire Warrior from yesterday. Made a drone. They look much better in person.
[img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/photo611.JPG[/img]
The Iphone camera hates anything other than complete darkness.[/QUOTE]
I see some improvement on the Fire Warrior in the picture, other than that i can't see anything wrong with the two models, keep up the good work.
[QUOTE=Hoboharry;32699189]But what if you trained like 25% of an amount of guardsmen to become elite soldiers, and the rest to become workers and miners to build vehicles and aircraft and such?[/QUOTE]
They have forge worlds for that, the Imperium literally has no other use for all those guardsmen except to throw them at the Emperor's enemies.
[QUOTE=No_0ne;32699557]They have forge worlds for that, the Imperium literally has no other use for all those guardsmen except to throw them at the Emperor's enemies.[/QUOTE]
I like to think of it as some sort of extreme population control.
[QUOTE=DaysBefore;32699570]I like to think of it as some sort of extreme population control.[/QUOTE]
It's less population control and more "Oh fuck a Terminator is fighting a xenomorph for control of the gods of Hell and everything within a fifty light-year distance will soon be nuked to fuck".
There ARE elite regiments though aren't there?
DKoK, Ghosts, Patricians etc.
You know, when you think about it, the only way for Guardsmen to actually kill something is to drown it with their own bodies.
Unless they manage to score a lucky shot with their flashlight on some soldier/creature.
[QUOTE=Cone;32699615]It's less population control and more "Oh fuck a Terminator is fighting a xenomorph for control of the gods of Hell and everything within a fifty light-year distance will soon be nuked to fuck".[/QUOTE]
I can't comprehend that sentence.
[QUOTE=Hoboharry;32699684]You know, when you think about it, the only way for Guardsmen to actually kill something is to drown it with bodies.
Unless they manage to score a lucky shot on some soldier/creature.[/QUOTE]
Or just shoot it a lot. The original idea was to have loads upon loads of guns firing at the same time, but then it eventually became just feeding the enemy until they run out of ammo, which is significantly cheaper, probably.
Speaking of which, do the Imperium actually have to "pay" at all? I mean, they're the fucking Imperium, I doubt the Golden Throne gets parking tickets.
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[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;32699693]I can't comprehend that sentence.[/QUOTE]
That's because of all the fucking grimdark.
Finished my Pirahna (my own sept scheme):
Full album: [url]http://imageshack.us/g/262/imag0221u.jpg/[/url]
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[editline]9th October 2011[/editline]
AKA, my phones camera sucks.
[QUOTE=Fussy!;32699825]Finished my Pirahna (my own sept scheme):
Full album: -tau piranha pictures-
[editline]9th October 2011[/editline]
AKA, my phones camera sucks.[/QUOTE]
That's awesome, i'm a bit picky about why the burst cannon is silver, though, but that's your choice.
Cause chainmail.
Cause burst is METUL now.
[QUOTE=Hoboharry;32699189]But what if you trained like 25% of an amount of guardsmen to become elite soldiers, and the rest to become workers and miners to build vehicles and aircraft and such?[/QUOTE]
They keep using those vast amounts of people, not only because it is extremely convenient (and cheap), but also because if they should ever turn to chaos (or just rebel), they know that their soldiers are shit.
Plus, using large and vast quantities of guardsmen is necessary when you look at how large the imperium really is. They literally just draft soldiers on planets whenever there is a conflict (see ; always), and just sail away directly to the front. Training isn't necessary, all they need is a lasgun in their hand, the enemy at the front, and a commissar at the back.
Experience is earned on the battlefield, those that survive their first conflict are more veteran and battle-hardened (and ready) than any amount of training could ever hope to give them.
It's grimdark, but in an universe where untold horrors are lurking at every corner, it is impossible to prepare the soldiers for what lies on the battlefield.
Just using the millions of millions of people living on worlds is a lot easier than training and preparing them, plus it's a great way of dealing with overcrowding :v:
(building tanks and shit is really hard too in the world, because nobody really knows how to do it.)
[QUOTE=larrylumpy;32699636]There ARE elite regiments though aren't there?
DKoK, Ghosts, Patricians etc.[/QUOTE]
I think so.
Aren't Vostroyans also an elite regiment?
I finished my very first Mini!
[QUOTE][IMG]http://i52.tinypic.com/2dl2d6v.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][IMG]http://i51.tinypic.com/28t9a90.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][IMG]http://i56.tinypic.com/2w4hd6o.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][IMG]http://i51.tinypic.com/2s9t6pl.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
/crappyphonecamera
How did I do?
[QUOTE=PunchedInFac;32700905]New Necron Camoflauges against wood.[/QUOTE]
Could you explain what you mean, and how I might improve the Mini?
[QUOTE=PunchedInFac;32700905]New Necron Camoflauges against wood.[/QUOTE]
Wait, this reminds me, how much do Necrons weigh? Can they walk up wooden stairs and if so are we fucked?
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;32701137]Wait, this reminds me, how much do Necrons weigh? Can they walk up wooden stairs and if so are we fucked?[/QUOTE]
[IMG]http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/a/a4/Wraith.jpg[/IMG]
Wraiths can phase through buildings, so your fucked.
Thankfuly, Dante will call his necron friends and soon stairs will be no problem for the Imperium of Man
[QUOTE=Space Jesus;32700741]I finished my very first Mini!
/crappyphonecamera
How did I do?[/QUOTE]
Can't see any problem with the mini except for the semi-brown paint on his back, was that intentional?
I want to add more dreadnoughts and a vindicator to my dark angels army, and play them by standard spess mahrines rules. Is this a good plan?
[QUOTE=WilhelmScreamer;32701331]I want to add more dreadnoughts and a vindicator to my dark angels army, and play them by standard spess mahrines rules. Is this a good plan?[/QUOTE]
Yes.
[QUOTE=Hoboharry;32701325]Can't see any problem with the mini except for the semi-brown paint on his back, was that intentional?[/QUOTE]
That is because of the natural lighting.
[QUOTE][IMG]http://i53.tinypic.com/2my298m.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Its All Boltgunmetal and Chainmail, with a Badab Black wash
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;32701137]Wait, this reminds me, how much do Necrons weigh? Can they walk up wooden stairs and if so are we fucked?[/QUOTE]
Necrons aren't exactly the fastest race in the galaxy, if they didn't have ranged weapons people could just walk away at a brisk pace.
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