[QUOTE=Scar;32712558]Just asking, is it possible to play some tabletop [b]without[/b] the figures? Like, could I write
"Space Marine" or so on a piece of paper and play with that? I wanna try it out before I spend lods of emone on paint, figures, etc.
Only with a friend, of course[/QUOTE]
Yeah, definately. Before buying stuff I'd always use 'proxy' models to see if I liked using it on the tabletop. It's still fun, but it does lack a certain something that using the actual models brings.
[QUOTE=joost1120;32712579]How about a Grey Knight Terminator? He can't run out of fuel or ammo, because he has a goddamn sword. Also, a storm bolter on the left hand.[/QUOTE]
If he has a storm bolter, then he can run out of ammo.
And yeah, he can slaughter around everything with a nemesis force sword, but why would a grey knight, the incorruptible servant of the Emperor ever go and kill Imperial Guardsmen?
That would only happen if... oh no..
[b]Matt Ward[/b].
To all those people saying the orks would win if they just united: the orks have already won. The galaxy is plunged in war without end, just what they want.
[editline]10th October 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Hoboharry;32712915] but why would a grey knight, the incorruptible servant of the Emperor ever go and kill Imperial Guardsmen?[/QUOTE]
Accuses him of heresy.
[QUOTE=WilhelmScreamer;32712916]To all those people saying the orks would win if they just united: the orks have already won. The galaxy is plunged in war without end, just what they want.[/QUOTE]
But Khorne wants the exact same thing, so hasn't Chaos already won aswell?
[QUOTE=Hoboharry;32713000]But Khorne wants the exact same thing, so hasn't Chaos already won aswell?[/QUOTE]
Khorne wants skulls and the blood of warriors. Orks would be quite happy fighting even if they and their opponents were invincible.
The Chaos thing can be strange as well - if a Berzerker kills someone, it appeases Khorne (blood flows), but also Tzeentch (one of the biggest changes someone can experience is death), Nurgle (he is the god of death and decay after all) and if the Bezerker enjoyed it, Slaanesh as well.
[QUOTE=Hoboharry;32712915]If he has a storm bolter, then he can run out of ammo.
And yeah, he can slaughter around everything with a nemesis force sword, but why would a grey knight, the incorruptible servant of the Emperor ever go and kill Imperial Guardsmen?
That would only happen if... oh no..
[b]Matt Ward[/b].[/QUOTE]
His main weapon is the Nemesis force sword, not the storm bolter. Also, if Imperial Guardsmen turned to Chaos and that Grey knight was forced to fight him.
[QUOTE=joost1120;32713089]His main weapon is the Nemesis force sword, not the storm bolter. Also, if Imperial Guardsmen turned to Chaos and that Grey knight was forced to fight him.[/QUOTE]
Even if that is his main weapon, you said that he couldn't run out of ammo, and if the Imperial Guardsmen turned to chaos, they would be renegade guardsmen/traitor guard, and i doubt the guardsmen would decide out of nowhere to attack loyalists, especially not if a grey knight terminator was there, they would first probably join some other traitor guard regiments.
They are forced to fight each other.
Also, with run out of ammo, I meant the ammo for his main weapon.
[QUOTE=Scar;32712558]Just asking, is it possible to play some tabletop [b]without[/b] the figures? Like, could I write
"Space Marine" or so on a piece of paper and play with that? I wanna try it out before I spend lods of emone on paint, figures, etc.
Only with a friend, of course[/QUOTE]
With a friend you can do whatever you want, although most stores frown on proxying. There's also Vassal 40k, which can be used to play 40k online. If you want to know more PM me.
[QUOTE=joost1120;32713434]They are forced to fight each other.
Also, with run out of ammo, I meant the ammo for his main weapon.[/QUOTE]
By that logic, a terminator doesn't run out of ammo either because he has a power fist.
[QUOTE=Camundongo;32711652]Well, Ork also physically get stronger and larger the more they fight - so on the worlds where the Orks and the 'Nids have been deadlocked for decades your normal boyz are liable to be the size of nobs if not bigger, and any Warbosses or Big Meks would probably be the size of a hive tyrant.
Oh, and if I remember correctly 'Nids like to spread spores that make plant life rapidly grow before landing on a planet to disrupt any attempt at building defences and provide more biomass, and since Orks are part algae....[/QUOTE]
Indeed.
[QUOTE=Etcetera;32713441]With a friend you can do whatever you want, although most stores frown on proxying. There's also Vassal 40k, which can be used to play 40k online. If you want to know more PM me.[/QUOTE]
There's proxying and then there's [I]proxying[/I]
Acceptable proxying is when you use models to substitute others, so say a kitbashed Imperial Guard/Tau Gue''la model as a Fire Warrior, and then there is unacceptable proxying which is when you use stuf like bottle tops, soda bottles etc etc to represent models.
[QUOTE=27X;32713587]Indeed.[/QUOTE]
Someone should actually set this up. The entire Ork army is comprised of Nobs and Things Bigger Than Nobs.
But who's the unlucky bastard who plays the Imperium team inevitably sent to destroy them? Assuming the scenario doesn't call for Grey Knights, of course.
Oh damn, get DOWII with thq pack y/n?
I've been wondering, it is said no Grey Knight has ever been corrupted by Chaos right?
Could it be like in Halo, where they say no Spartan has ever been Killed as they just list them as MIA instead?
They could say that no Grey knight has fallen to chaos as if that does happen they are no longer themselves/a Grey knight.
[QUOTE=nightlord;32715422]I've been wondering, it is said no Grey Knight has ever been corrupted by Chaos right?
Could it be like in Halo, where they say no Spartan has ever been Killed as they just list them as MIA instead?
They could say that no Grey knight has fallen to chaos as if that does happen they are no longer themselves/a Grey knight.[/QUOTE] Maybe,also welcome back to youre own THREAD
[QUOTE=nightlord;32715422]I've been wondering, it is said no Grey Knight has ever been corrupted by Chaos right?
Could it be like in Halo, where they say no Spartan has ever been Killed as they just list them as MIA instead?
They could say that no Grey knight has fallen to chaos as if that does happen they are no longer themselves/a Grey knight.[/QUOTE]
My guess is that any grey knight that's even remotely on the verge of turning, puts his NFW to his chin and jumps pole end down off the nearest ledge. If indeed ANY of them even approach the merest hint of the verge.
Also when it comes to the "Future of 40K" I like to think that things will go slightly "right" not so much that the eternal state of war is lifted but something that gives each faction renewed hope and it goes from a frantic battle for survival to an all out war of total annihilation of the enemy.
Say the imperium finds a working STC.
Or Chaos releases some kind of untapped warp power.
Basically everybody gets their "Win" condition at the same time, Making it less "We're going to die" and more "We're all Hero's!"
In Mechanicum the Knight titans description sounds oddly like a DreadKnight and yet they look more like baby Titans, it got me thinking that Matt Ward might have just kinda thieved the idea.
I read something on 1d4Chan that showed a Grey Knight in one of the more poorly-written books was apparently corrupted by Khorne, but nobody actually notices in the story, and as it was only through examination of the book did the writer of the article realize, it would seem the book's writer didn't see it himself.
I actually kind of like that idea, that everyone - even the Empreror's Finest - is corrupted in their own way. If the book's writer had actually woven that into his story, it'd probably be one of the better ones.
[QUOTE=markg06;32715880]In Mechanicum the Knight titans description sounds oddly like a DreadKnight and yet they look more like baby Titans, it got me thinking that Matt Ward might have just kinda thieved the idea.[/QUOTE]
I suppose the in lore explanation is they they are Knight titans custom built for the Grey Knights.
[QUOTE=Cone;32714595]Someone should actually set this up. The entire Ork army is comprised of Nobs and Things Bigger Than Nobs.
But who's the unlucky bastard who plays the Imperium team inevitably sent to destroy them? Assuming the scenario doesn't call for Grey Knights, of course.[/QUOTE]
Well, you could use nobz as boyz, warbosses for nobz and big meks for mekboyz....
Not sure what you'd use for a warboss though. They already are S5 T5 W3, so they'd be something like S6 T6 W4, which would be a nightmare to kill if the boss in question was wearing mega armor and had a cybork body... Oh, and he'd instakill imperial guard officers just using a choppa.
Hmm, maybe against an army of movie marines?
[QUOTE=markg06;32623316]So I picked up Salvation's Reach earlier and the guy in the Games Workshop that served me was so slow same as most people tell you to put your card in the machine and so forth but this guy didn't and seemed kinda brain dead but it was only the little store in Meadowhall if anyone's ever seen it.[/QUOTE]Used to be my local
[QUOTE=Camundongo;32711652]Oh, and if I remember correctly 'Nids like to spread spores that make plant life rapidly grow before landing on a planet to disrupt any attempt at building defences and provide more biomass, and since Orks are part algae....[/QUOTE]
If I recall correctly, the spores come from spore chimneys that transform plant life into aggressive alien flora such as barbed thermotropic vines whilst also contaminating the atmosphere and increasing the planets temperature. Spore chimneys however have to be established planet side and usually arrive in the 3rd stage of an invasion.
[QUOTE=Camundongo;32716387]Well, you could use nobz as boyz, warbosses for nobz and big meks for mekboyz....
Not sure what you'd use for a warboss though. They already are S5 T5 W3, so they'd be something like S6 T6 W4, which would be a nightmare to kill if the boss in question was wearing mega armor and had a cybork body... Oh, and he'd instakill imperial guard officers just using a choppa.
Hmm, maybe against an army of movie marines?[/QUOTE]
Grab Mad Dok Grotsnik and a Warboss, take units of Nobz with FNP and Cybork bodies. Possibly on bikes.
All Nids carry spawning microbes as of 4th. One nid simply being on the planet will cause latent contamination. Chimneys are simply to increase the saturation exponentially.
[QUOTE=Indyclone77;32716515]Used to be my local[/QUOTE]
My possible condolences, it might have been better in the past.
[QUOTE=RayvenQ;32707372]A Thousand Psykers are sacrificed daily just to keep the Astronominican and the emperor topped up, so, yeah no.
Necrons are actually probably the only race that stands a decent chance against them, millions if not billions of them (albeit most asleep) no fear, self repairing, anti warp stuff (which would screw with the hive mind) devestating weapons and the fact they have no organic bits so the 'nids can't use them to self propogate.[/QUOTE]
Sadly even they will fall to the Great Devourer, large quantities of bio-titans can stop even the most enduring enemies.
[QUOTE=gufu;32707468]Despite the Tyranid's size, they aren't that powerful. If they start appearing in larger numbers, then they'll have to combat more enemies at the same time. And if Necrons and Ork finally identify nids as a big threat, Nids would be in a fight that could potentially starve the Hive Mind.[/QUOTE]
Starve the Hive-Mind? Oh god, your brilliant, how funny. I hope you realize they are plundering galaxies upon galaxies at a time and not even a fraction of their forces have even considered entering our galaxy.
[QUOTE=Cone;32709611]Nothing's ever going to happen with the Tyranids anyway, because if they were anywhere near as powerful as they should be, humanity, and basically everyone else, would be extinct by now - you can't have a perpetual war if 90% of the opposition is dead and the rest are unthinking machines that no longer have a purpose.
Trust me bros, [I]somebody[/I] has this all planned out.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kevinsevenalt;32709874][i]*cough cough Tezeentch cough cough*[/i][/QUOTE]
lol
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;32716851]
lol[/QUOTE]
As I've said, Tzeentch is batshit insane. And I don't fucking care if that's just what he wants me to think, because I know - [I][U]for sure[/U][/I] - that he is goddamned useless because literally nothing is happening and nothing's changed recently. Millions upon millions are still dying, Khorne's still pissed, Slaanesh is still an idiot, Nurgle's still creepy and won't stop feeling up my leg, and nobody's doing anything because [B]the Orks alread won. That's the whole point of a perpetual war.[/B]
And we all know Creed could take him with his brain stem amputated and his coffee jar stolen.
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;32716851]Starve the Hive-Mind? Oh god, your brilliant, how funny. I hope you realize they are plundering galaxies upon galaxies at a time and not even a fraction of their forces have even considered entering our galaxy.[/QUOTE]
Starving the hive mind would be possible.
[QUOTE=Hoboharry;32717251]Starving the hive mind would be possible.[/QUOTE]
More than possible; really, if you can take on Tyranids in most capacities, you can probably nuke the fuckers. I mean, the only thing that really makes the Terminators who get owned special is their armor and their experience, so why even give them the former when the latter is enough to get them motivated?
All we need, is some big-ass tanks, a metric fuck-ton of Kasrkin and special IG and SM squads, and a few guts behind a wall and some emplacements, we can take on the universe. It's worked so far.
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