[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;32973583]I do like the Dark Eldar, but is it just me or do they rival the Tau in terms of being completely irrelevant to the proceedings of the galaxy?
I don't know, it just feels like they just sort of hang around, occasionally pirating worlds and ships and the like, but mostly they just dick around in Cammorragh.[/QUOTE]
That is pretty much what they do, sometimes they send people Black Holes within a little box. They're relevance to the Universe as a whole is largely for story, much like the Dark Elves. They sometimes fight the Eldar, but mostly they just want everything their way and everything else can rot.
[editline]26th October 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Dick Tracy;32973605]The best campaign is not one where the characters are winning, it's the one where they have fought really hard to win, and even so they don't really win, they just altered something so that they lost.
And well, it sounds like your players just weren't really imaginitive, you can always have an NPC that joins the group to help give them ideas, make it easier for them when it's too hard, and the opposite.
You could've made so that they would have to join the group, make them involved in the group, maybe even make it so that they liked the group and THEN they are tasked with destroying it, but obviously they've already made friends with the group members, maybe even started a romance.
Try to personalize it, give every character they meet a personality so that they can relate to them, bond with them so that what they do have actual consequences*, don't make everything a backdrop for the character ; make everything a part of the character.
*in the game ofcourse, this obviously is meant for everything I've mentioned. =)
[editline]26th October 2011[/editline]
I know :v:[/QUOTE]
Also, my PCs read the thread. Their first reaction upon wandering in was to blabber about being maintenance guys, pretending they didn't all have lasguns. Hiding in a vent, dropping out and shooting a few gangbangers.
[QUOTE=Dick Tracy;32973254]Oh right, thanks for pointing that out. =)
Still, Abbaddon has opened the gates to the warp, and the orks have taken over several forge worlds, meaning that not only will the chaos forces have an unlimited supply to daemonic forces, the greenskins will have access to bigger and better guns, while denying the imperium a chance to use those big guns against her enemies.[/quote]
Forgeworlds where? 7 Forgeworlds in a empire that spans around a million worlds is not a huge loss.
[QUOTE=Dick Tracy;32973254]Not only do the imperium have to retake the worlds around Cadia to seal the gate to the warp, they will have to fight an ork enemy that has destructive firepower that they haven't had before, and a tyranid fleet that consumes everything.[/quote]
While Abbaddon has taken around half of Cadia, the Imperium has complete air and space superiority over the entire area, Abbaddons fleet was pretty much smashed and destroyed. Anyone knows that who ever controls the skies wins the war.
[QUOTE=cyclocius;32973603]I am, to the last part. It's why Eisenhorn is my favourite series of 40k novels, because it has as many space marines in it as I can count on my 2 hands, and all of them are killed save one, while Eisenhorn runs about and does stuff that's interesting.
The point wasn't to make the players go;
"Well, that was some fantastic Guro Cyc"
Or
"Well, I think we need to check if this Cult Leader is alive. If not, these guys did our job for us"
It was to promote some creativity, I provided a simple goal. They didn't have to do it, they could have faked it, outright refused and risked the consequences of defying the Inquisition, unthinkingly done it like the lackeys they ultimately are.[/QUOTE]
I don't really like Space Marines that much either. Boring characters to play, both as a player and a DM.
Er, "guro" doesn't come into it. Violence is a tool for influencing the emotions of the audience, as is anything you create or describe. Generally, people don't like realistic representations of violence, and if you describe it as such, they'll come away with different thoughts both towards cults and the Interrogator who commanded them to go on the mission.
And hey, you want to provide an open environment for them to do anything in. That's cool too. It's a good way of seeing how your players work the game. But you can't get frustrated because they weren't clever enough.
If you want your players to go about things cleverly, remove blatant violence as an option. Reward creativity. Make it a running theme that they expect and plan for. It's the bare bones of game design.
But hey, maybe they just like shooting stuff. In that case, set up more things like that. Car chases, ship boardings, mutant purging etc. . .. All of these scenarios can have interesting characters and plot intrigue and the like while still being actiony and simple.
Hey Cyc, we didn't shoot the place up, it was the misterious hitmen. We just saved the cult from slaughter.
And we only blew them up when weird shit started happening.
[editline]26th October 2011[/editline]
Although I'm ready to admit Party Cell's playstyle is a bit too "Kill everything, the Emprah will know who was right" :v:
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;32973583]I do like the Dark Eldar, but is it just me or do they rival the Tau in terms of being completely irrelevant to the proceedings of the galaxy?
I don't know, it just feels like they just sort of hang around, occasionally pirating worlds and ships and the like, but mostly they just dick around in Cammorragh.[/QUOTE]
Didn't they destroy a space marine chapter?
[QUOTE=Zezibesh;32974158]Didn't they destroy a space marine chapter?[/QUOTE]
yeah and they also beat up Worf
[QUOTE=Zezibesh;32974158]Didn't they destroy a space marine chapter?[/QUOTE]
They destroyed elements of Three different Chapters, I remember one being Salamanders.
And Geza, bad wording on my part. Either way, your next mission is when the campaign really gets going. Provided the cell survives the pissed off Automaton you threw a grenade at :v:
[QUOTE=cyclocius;32974483]They destroyed elements of Three different Chapters, I remember one being Salamanders.
And Geza, bad wording on my part. Either way, your next mission is when the campaign really gets going. Provided the cell survives the pissed off Automaton you threw a grenade at :v:[/QUOTE]
Oh, this. Fuck you, Geza.
When I say it gets going, I mean it gets Politicking. Because Inquisition and Business.
[QUOTE=Dejarie;32970473]Mycetic Spores.[/QUOTE]
I've yet to see some spores use wheels and I'll be damned if I do.
[QUOTE=Dick Tracy;32971431]I've been to the local ("local", it's about 700 kilometers away) games workshop now, the plan was to buy AoBR and a pack of assault terminators. I pick up the stuff I want, and an employee comes and talks to me, trying to sell me shit. He asks me if I don't want to buy paint so that I can colour my units, but I tell him that I'm not interested in GWs overpriced acrylic paint and that I've already got shitloads of it (for 1/4th of their price, and 4 times the quantity). The employee gets super pissed and gets really creepy and just tries even harder to sell me things.
I just drop off the things that I was planning on buying, and .ell him that I'm no longer interested in buying anything, and that I want to talk to his manager. He gets even angrier (what the fuck?) and tells me that I'm no longer welcome at this store, and now I'm home and writing a letter of complaint to the store.
I mean what the fuck, how was he even able to score that job when he acts like a complete lunatic when I say I'm not interested in buying more things?[/QUOTE]
Dick move by him. Did he even get the manager?
[QUOTE=Dick Tracy;32972578]Oh I think you're misunderstanding, I didn't say anything about the prices being overpriced, it's kind of stupid to say such a thing to an employee and quite frankly its really rude. =) I just said that I was not interested in buying their paint since I already had acrylic paint at home.
Basically, the conversation went something like this
GW Employee : So I see you're buying the AoBR, is this the first time you're playing Warhammer?
Dick : No, I've played before, but it was a really long time and I heard that AoBR is a very good starter kit.
GW Employee : Yeah, it's a solid buy through and through. Would you perhaps be interested in buying one of the starting paint kits too? You don't get any colours with the starting kit, you'll have to buy that separately.
Dick : No thank you, I've already got paint at home that I can use.
GW Employee : Oh, well this colours is specifically made for painting our models.
Dick : Thanks but no thanks, I've got a lot of acrylic paint at home so I should be good.
And after that he got pissed and creepy and annoying and now I have no AoBR and assault terminators, and quite frankly I'm not even sure if I want to get it any longer.[/QUOTE]
Oh, I get it. You were saying [i]to us[/i] that they're overpriced. If what you're saying is true then he was completely at fault. I don't know the laws in Sweden, but here in Florida if he didn't get the manager the store is liable to a fine.
Okay, I've read all the bullshit after around 100 posts. No more mass-quoting for me.
[QUOTE=nightlord;32972663]Can weapon challenges (Eg 250 bolter kills) be done in Exterminatus?[/QUOTE] Yes.
[QUOTE=27X;32976765]Yes.[/QUOTE]
No, it doesn't track them.
It's supposed to.
[QUOTE=Hoboharry;32976723][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUaMdSV7vPI&feature=related[/media]
1:02
D'aww.[/QUOTE]
What the hell, is the audio looped? Mindfuck
fucking kaos mehreens
I can feel the Necrons crying out in pain as they die horrible unfathomable deaths.
And this time when they rebuild themselves they turn into something worse than death itself...
They turn into...[B][I]emotive creatures.[/I][/B]
[QUOTE=Hoboharry;32976723][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUaMdSV7vPI&feature=related[/media]
1:02
D'aww.[/QUOTE]
"AAARGH ANGER SUBSIDING. FEELINGS OF CALM WASH OVER ME. I FEEL THE NEED FOR A CUP OF TEA AND A LITTLE KITTEN. WHERE IS MY COMFY CHAIR. I NEED TO REST AFTER THREE MILLENIA OF ANGER."
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Unlimited Necron Lords infiltrating the whole army ftw.
Rhinos. RHINOS! My chaos rhino and other stuff just arrived. TIME TO PAINT.
[QUOTE=Wingedwizard;32977605]Rhinos. RHINOS! My chaos rhino and other stuff just arrived. TIME TO PAINT.[/QUOTE]
show us the METAL BAWKSES!
Made a few small changes to the OP.
[QUOTE=MagnusTacitus;32977888]show us the METAL BAWKSES![/QUOTE]
When I'm done. Most my paints arrived too so I'm finishing my thousand son squad.
Okey finished reading the second gaunts ghosts omnibus, man am i glad there's still third.
did the dark heresy thread get closed?
[QUOTE=Salricci;32978650]did the dark heresy thread get closed?[/QUOTE]
You mean the CYOA?
No, it didn't, Dick Tracy simply lost his Dark Heresy book and hasn't been able to tend to the CYOA for a while.
Alright, another poll: Rate agree of you think Dawn of War is better and Disagree if you think Starcraft is better. Optimistic if you think they're equal and Late if you've never played one or the other.
[QUOTE=Hoboharry;32978688]You mean the CYOA?
No, it didn't, Dick Tracy simply lost his Dark Heresy book and hasn't been able to tend to the CYOA for a while.[/QUOTE] oh,so uhm how does dark heresy work? is it fun?
[QUOTE=Salricci;32978730]oh,so uhm how does dark heresy work? is it fun?[/QUOTE]
Classic paper and pen RPG. Except you're acolytes (AKA henchmen) of the Inquisition. And everything is very grimdark.
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;32978726]Alright, another poll: Rate agree of you think Dawn of War is better and Disagree if you think Starcraft is better. Optimistic if you think they're equal and Late if you've never played one or the other.[/QUOTE]
Which Starcraft? Because in my opinion SC1 and Brood Wars are way superior to vanilla DoW
DimJim posted this in LMAO pics. :v:
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