[QUOTE=junker|154;30760137]Is Dawn of War II Retribution worth it? I am a big fan of the Dawn of War I and all it's expansions but I never bothered with the sequels because it was not the same anymore. Although Retribution looks fun and everbody claims that the MP is damn fun. Any opinions?[/QUOTE]
It may be strange compared to DOW1, but DOW2 and it's expansions are much better than DOW 1, mainly because of how it's gameplay highly focuses on using tactics and cover.
It may not have base building, but instead you have better graphics, more individual unit upgrades and a lot more new units, some including special abilities.
Anyway, this is just my opinion, i would suggest buying it though.
Well, that were the things I really liked about the game. Base building and massive squads.
[QUOTE=junker|154;30760394]Well, that were the things I really liked about the game. Base building and massive squads.[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately, that's exactly what DoW 2 doesn't have, it focuses on the opposite of it.
[QUOTE=nightlord;30756597]Why not?[/QUOTE]
Gameplay close to tabletop means less reason to buy the miniatures because if you want to play proper 40k then you have a video game to do it all already. Less miniature sales=less money. Less money=sad GW.
[QUOTE=junker|154;30760394]Well, that were the things I really liked about the game. Base building and massive squads.[/QUOTE]
You'd still like Retribution a bit, even though it doesn't have those features.
Hell, i was pissed about no base building at first, but i got used to it.
[QUOTE=27X;30758030]No chapter has all of them.[/QUOTE]
Pretty sure a lot of them do, there's only the odd one that doesn't have them, and just a few that have ones that malfunction slgihtly.
Anyone want to play some Chaos Rising Free for all? I need 10 wins but NO ONE plays.
[QUOTE=Dejarie;30760543]Unfortunately, that's exactly what DoW 2 doesn't have, it focuses on the opposite of it.[/QUOTE]I kind of like how you had small squads against massive groups of orks and shit in the campaign.
[QUOTE=Combineguy;30762813]I kind of like how you had small squads against massive groups of orks and shit in the campaign.[/QUOTE]
It was sort of like Last Stand in every mission.
[QUOTE=nightlord;30762708]Anyone want to play some Chaos Rising Free for all? I need 10 wins but NO ONE plays.[/QUOTE]
I can play, but I only have Ret installed
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I hate how I can only play Ret multiplayer at a specific time (12 AM to 4 AM here)
That time the number of people online jumps by 1000 and you can actually find a match in under an hour
[QUOTE=Jund;30763535]I can play, but I only have Ret installed
[editline]28th June 2011[/editline]
I hate how I can only play Ret multiplayer at a specific time (12 AM to 4 AM here)
That time the number of people online jumps by 1000 and you can actually find a match in under an hour[/QUOTE]
As retribtion is a standalone and does not use GFWL, it is not compatable with DoW2/CR - Which is stupid.
[QUOTE=nightlord;30763832]As retribtion is a standalone and does not use GFWL, it is not compatable with DoW2/CR - Which is stupid.[/QUOTE]
It should had been compatible with DOW2/CR, but DOW2 and CR should never had used GFWL in the first place.
[QUOTE=Dejarie;30760543]Unfortunately, that's exactly what DoW 2 doesn't have, it focuses on the opposite of it.[/QUOTE]
DOW 3 should be the opposite of DOW2. A game focused entirely on building a massive city, defending it from xenos, rooting out heretics from within, directing traffic, building weapons, worshipping the emperor, etc...
Pretty much Simcity but with soul forges instead of nuclear powerplants and a hive fleet instead of alien invasions.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;30758154]Turn 1 railgun alpha- holy shit a fucking trygon holy fuck[/QUOTE]
Correct me if I'm wrong, as I haven't read the new Tyranid codex, but doesn't the trygon deepstrike?
[QUOTE=RayvenQ;30761686]Pretty sure a lot of them do, there's only the odd one that doesn't have them, and just a few that have ones that malfunction slgihtly.[/QUOTE]
According the first collected Index Astartes, it lists all of them and the ONLY ones that are present in every chapter are progenoids, laramans and the carapace. It states rather clearly that no every chapter has all or all unmodified after the primarch templating. I've never seen it retconned.
[QUOTE=Nitrowing;30765518]DOW 3 should be the opposite of DOW2. A game focused entirely on building a massive city, defending it from xenos, rooting out heretics from within, directing traffic, building weapons, worshipping the emperor, etc...
Pretty much Simcity but with soul forges instead of nuclear powerplants and a hive fleet instead of alien invasions.[/QUOTE]
I doubt it.
[QUOTE=Nitrowing;30765518]DOW 3 should be the opposite of DOW2. A game focused entirely on building a massive city, defending it from xenos, rooting out heretics from within, directing traffic, building weapons, worshipping the emperor, etc...
Pretty much Simcity but with soul forges instead of nuclear powerplants and a hive fleet instead of alien invasions.[/QUOTE]
How about a totally different game?
[QUOTE=Nitrowing;30765518]DOW 3 should be the opposite of DOW2. A game focused entirely on building a massive city, defending it from xenos, rooting out heretics from within, directing traffic, building weapons, worshipping the emperor, etc...
Pretty much Simcity but with soul forges instead of nuclear powerplants and a hive fleet instead of alien invasions.[/QUOTE]
Something like the Star Wars Empire At War game but with aspects of CoH would be great. Space battles, Galactic conquest etc would be awesome.
[QUOTE=the_killer24;30765570]Correct me if I'm wrong, as I haven't read the new Tyranid codex, but doesn't the trygon deepstrike?[/QUOTE]
It does.
[QUOTE=27X;30765685]According the first collected Index Astartes, it lists all of them and the ONLY ones that are present in every chapter are progenoids, laramans and the carapace. It states rather clearly that no every chapter has all or all unmodified after the primarch templating. I've never seen it retconned.[/QUOTE]
Not Every =/= None of them have all.
Wait, I don't get the lore. If Imperial guard, Space marines, And sisters of battle are all part of the Imperium and are fighting for the same emperor, Why do they fight among each other for territory?
Because games break the fluff sometimes.
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read: a lot of the time
[QUOTE=skparagon;30767457]Wait, I don't get the lore. If Imperial guard, Space marines, And sisters of battle are all part of the Imperium and are fighting for the same emperor, Why do they fight among each other for territory?[/QUOTE]
Alpha Legion did it!
I hope they stay the fuck away from the CoH formula, I really dislike it. Plus if I wanted to play that style of game I'd go play CoH!
Bigger scale! Bring base building back!
Also I think we might be hearing more at Gamescom
[QUOTE=the_killer24;30765570]Correct me if I'm wrong, as I haven't read the new Tyranid codex, but doesn't the trygon deepstrike?[/QUOTE]
precisely.
Never again will I ignore bringing Hydras. 3 Fighta bombas took out every armoured unit in the mordian push, and the tallarn russes got pounded hard enough to rout.
[img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/Bombers.png[/img]
(It's final liberation - Still love it to this day)
Anyone up for a vassal game?
[QUOTE=TheHypnotoad;30771196]Never again will I ignore bringing Hydras. 3 Fighta bombas took out every armoured unit in the mordian push, and the tallarn russes got pounded hard enough to rout.
[img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/Bombers.png[/img]
(It's final liberation - Still love it to this day)[/QUOTE]
So much infantry.
Although my way of going through the game depends on the initial dug-in infantry front, LOADSA Manticores/Deathstrikes/Basilisks, and anything that's a Tank/Titan to flush out the rest of the bastards.
Seriously, no matter how inaccurate artillery is in Final Liberation, it is very satisfying to use. There is nothing like demolishing anything bigger than a Dragsta on a successful turn.
Also - fluff Question. Is it actually possible to be promoted/moved to become a Commissar?
No. You become a commissar when you graduate from a Schola Progenium's Commissariat training program (inducted from a young age, usually as an orphan).
Is Final Liberation good?
[editline]29th June 2011[/editline]
And Table top question:
Do Master-Crafted weapons do anything special?
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