[QUOTE=skparagon;30767457]Wait, I don't get the lore. If Imperial guard, Space marines, And sisters of battle are all part of the Imperium and are fighting for the same emperor, Why do they fight among each other for territory?[/QUOTE]
Reminds me of the Eldar campaign in Ret.
*Autarch and co. rampage through ruined Typhon*
Tyrea: BITCH.
Autarch: We don't follow your prophecy, we have a higher purpose.
Tyrea: Oooooh.
*Entire battle could've been avoided if they had just said that at the start*
Always finding paper thin reasons to make shit fight.
[QUOTE=DTkach;30776315]Always finding paper thin reasons to make shit fight.[/QUOTE]
40k fluff in nutshell.
[QUOTE=gufu;30777061]40k fluff in nutshell.[/QUOTE]
I thought paper-thin battle reasons was why the Orks were made so that the rest of the world would look more grimdark and serious.
If a Massive WAAAGH! started over a small squabble over teef I wouldn't be surprised but in the imperium? what the hell?
Teef and hats.
Number one reasons to start a WAAAGH
[QUOTE=Nitrowing;30765518]DOW 3 should be the opposite of DOW2. A game focused entirely on building a massive city, defending it from xenos, rooting out heretics from within, directing traffic, building weapons, worshipping the emperor, etc...
Pretty much Simcity but with soul forges instead of nuclear powerplants and a hive fleet instead of alien invasions.[/QUOTE]
They said "Now Dawn of War III, either way, is going to have a much larger strategic component to it, more of a global battle going on with little tactical things," so we probably will see a very different style than DoW2 (thankfully, disliked the no basebuilding and the extremely small scale).
[QUOTE=DTkach;30776315]Reminds me of the Eldar campaign in Ret.
*Autarch and co. rampage through ruined Typhon*
Tyrea: BITCH.
Autarch: We don't follow your prophecy, we have a higher purpose.
Tyrea: Oooooh.
*Entire battle could've been avoided if they had just said that at the start*
Always finding paper thin reasons to make shit fight.[/QUOTE]
Eldar killing their own kin is just wrong.
In my opinion, Relic failed hard at making the ret campaign.
Eldar kill their own all the time.
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[QUOTE=acds;30777211]They said "Now Dawn of War III, either way, is going to have a much larger strategic component to it, more of a global battle going on with little tactical things," so we probably will see a very different style than DoW2 (thankfully, disliked the no basebuilding and the extremely small scale).[/QUOTE]
Base building in 40k is fucking stupid.
[QUOTE=acds;30777211]They said "Now Dawn of War III, either way, is going to have a much larger strategic component to it, more of a global battle going on with little tactical things," so we probably will see a very different style than DoW2 (thankfully, disliked the no basebuilding and the extremely small scale).[/QUOTE]
So, I would think it is something like you having a huge base for macro-management and if necessary, you can go to the battlefield itself to control the units like small squads of tactical marines.
Or perhaps they mean that it will be like DOW2 but with more emphasis on your Strike Cruiser or home-plant or home-city rather than purely it being a base for you to switch wargears. Like a strike cruiser can have various upgrades that can affect a mission ,like orbital strike batteries, or if it is a home-city, your decision will lead to what you can deploy.
[QUOTE=27X;30778103]
Base building in 40k is fucking stupid.[/QUOTE]
Fluff wise yes, since war equipment comes from forge worlds and stuff.
But for gameplay base building is good. But I think we all want a system-sized RTS.
[QUOTE=27X;30778103]
Base building in 40k is fucking stupid.[/QUOTE]
Well depends on the scale, but mostly yes. Still, how much of Dow 1 and 2 is not completely fucking retarded fluff-wise?
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[QUOTE=Konigstiger96;30778825]So, I would think it is something like you having a huge base for macro-management and if necessary, you can go to the battlefield itself to control the units like small squads of tactical marines.
Or perhaps they mean that it will be like DOW2 but with more emphasis on your Strike Cruiser or home-plant or home-city rather than purely it being a base for you to switch wargears. Like a strike cruiser can have various upgrades that can affect a mission ,like orbital strike batteries, or if it is a home-city, your decision will lead to what you can deploy.[/QUOTE]
Might be similar to Total War, you have the large map (which could be one or more planets) and you manage cities/bases/armies and all that, then when an army is to fight you can go to the battlefield and command it yourself.
Problem is, armies moving around in one large clump isn't very fitting.
I would love it if DoW 3 had the exact same gameplay as DoW2, just with more scale, base-building and unit choice. The only real problem I had with DoW 2 was that battles were so tiny.
I just started playing the DoW2 Retribution Imperial Guard campaign and am fucking stomping EVERYTHING with meltaguns.
Yes.
[QUOTE=Wolfz;30780935][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEgjqcI03xw[/media][/QUOTE]
Late.
Though, the fact that the engineer will be remodeled as a techpriest is great.
[QUOTE=27X;30778103]Eldar kill their own all the time.
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Base building in 40k is fucking stupid.[/QUOTE]
No it is not. Sure, building huge buildings in the middle of a battle is stupid. But long-term or short-term bases are not.
For example, The Imperial Fists are known for their Castles, the Iron warriors for knocking them down, and several regiments of the Imperial guard for their fortifications.
Well they could change the basebuilding and minimize it in DoW3. But the maps of Dow2 are so linear and boring. The strategic options are really minimal.
The Warhammer Universe is known for huge battles without thousands of soldiers, not only few minor squads.
[QUOTE=junker|154;30782188]
The Warhammer Universe is known for huge battles without thousands of soldiers, not only few minor squads.[/QUOTE]
:psyduck:
Yep, it's the truth. I guarantee that :v:
[QUOTE=junker|154;30782188]Well they could change the basebuilding and minimize it in DoW3. But the maps of Dow2 are so linear and boring. The strategic options are really minimal.
The Warhammer Universe is known for huge battles without thousands of soldiers, not only few minor squads.[/QUOTE]
There's a map pack for DOW2 called Maps of War, you could look into it.
[QUOTE=junker|154;30782188]Well they could change the basebuilding and minimize it in DoW3. But the maps of Dow2 are so linear and boring. The strategic options are really minimal.
The Warhammer Universe is known for huge battles without thousands of soldiers, not only few minor squads.[/QUOTE]
Except Astartes are pretty much a Strike Force, they go in, hit the enemy where it hurts most and get out.
[QUOTE=RayvenQ;30782655]Except Astartes are pretty much a Strike Force, they go in, hit the enemy where it hurts most and get out.[/QUOTE]
they could sort of do what final liberation did
where the space marines are an elite option for the imperial forces
they don't need their own specific race in every game
[QUOTE=RayvenQ;30782655]Except Astartes are pretty much a Strike Force, they go in, hit the enemy where it hurts most and get out.[/QUOTE]
You're right, but if you play for instance as the Guard who employ massive battalions, huge battles are a must.
[QUOTE=PunchedInFac;30778956]Fluff wise yes, since war equipment comes from forge worlds and stuff.
But for gameplay base building is good. But I think we all want a system-sized RTS.[/QUOTE]
Basebuilding sort of made sense in the first game. If you think of it more as building defensive structures only. And the units were called down from orbit
I prefer the tactical aspect of DoW2 more then DoW1's "spam the most effective unit and win".
If they merged the two, it would create something amazing.
[quote] Except Astartes are pretty much a Strike Force, they go in, hit the enemy where it hurts most and get out.[/quote]
Not always, sometimes they do send a whole company or more. Plus pre-Heresy they stuck together a lot more
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Wow ninjas
[QUOTE=thrawn2787;30783864]Not always, sometimes they do send a whole company or more. Plus pre-Heresy they stuck together a lot more
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Wow ninjas[/QUOTE]
They still act as a majority strike force, even with a Company or more. Except when they are forced and made unable to do so, but even then they still act very strike forcey. With pinpoint lightning attacks.
In the Heresy, they were the ultimate strike force, who broke a planets defences and then moved on, leaving it to the Imperial Arny to garrison it.
Is it wrong that I like Shinji and Warhammer 40k fanfic?
[sp]Black Stone Fortress, Bolters, Chain sords and axe[s?],`[/sp] what's not to like?
[QUOTE=imadaman;30783992]Is it wrong that I like Shinji and Warhammer 40k fanfic?
[sp]Black Stone Fortress, Bolters, Chain sords and axe[s?],`[/sp] what's not to like?[/QUOTE]
I've never read it, is it good?
Wait, is this one of his works? :v:
[img]http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/5220/1213168330415kb7.png[/img]
[url]http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3886999/1/Shinji_and_Warhammer40k[/url]
Link to the prologue.
Id love it if the high tier Guard got a special ability to drop a squad of Marines in.
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