[QUOTE=Konigstiger96;33699295]The Horus Heresy authors tend to be of the opinion that the small acts lead up to the big acts.[/QUOTE]
A moment of laxity spawns a lifetime of heresy etc
[QUOTE=Zezibesh;33699225]Eh, I always felt Tzeentch had the ambition thing down[/QUOTE]
according to something I read, Tzeentch hates Nurgle because while Tzeentch stands for hope and ambition, while Nurgle stands for despair and hopelessness.
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also because Nurgle keeps things alive, which screws with Tzeentch's plans.
[QUOTE=ThatCrazyGmanV2;33699540]according to something I read, Tzeentch hates Nurgle because while Tzeentch stands for hope and ambition, while Nurgle stands for despair and hopelessness.[/QUOTE]
Right but it's more like Nurgle represents the end of things and decay and Tzeentch creates things or changes them. Their conflict is that every of their action conflicts with each other.
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caught your edit
Done for the night. Got pretty far.
[img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/photo217.JPG[/img]
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;33699659]Done for the night. Got pretty far.
[img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/photo217.JPG[/img][/QUOTE]
A bit hard to see if it's based on Hello Kitty as is.
Are you going to put on some stickers or something?
[QUOTE=Hoboharry;33700353]A bit hard to see if it's based on Hello Kitty as is.
Are you going to put on some stickers or something?[/QUOTE]
I believe he said he is ordering a decal sheet.
I wonder what Fulgrim had to attract Slaanesh
He became corrupted after entering the [sp]Laer temple[/sp] and grabbing the [sp]possesed Laer sword[/sp].
He became obsessed with it, as it whispered to him and it drove him crazy, really turning him into an extravagant fellow, and from that point on he really did Slaaneshie stuff.
But at a later point in the Fulgrim book, [sp] lord commander Vespasian confronts Fulgrim for abandoning Salomon Demeter and his company in a battle against the orks. Fulgrim makes him watch his possesed portrait and Slaanesh stares into Vespasian's soul, looking for evil stuff, but he finds none as Vespasian has a pure soul, hence instead of corrupting him as both Fulgrim and Slaanesh originally planned, Slaanesh orders Fulgrim to kill him.[/sp]
This left me wondering, do you need to already have one of the 'bad' qualities from the Chaos Gods in order to become possesed by them? How did Fulgrim become possesed?
Fulgrim just enjoyed fine art, he enjoyed perfection, doing everything in the perfect manner.
Was it jealousy? Jealous of who or what? Not being as artistic? Of his brothers?
I'm not counting the stuff he becomes jealous of after becoming mad with the sword, nor all that bad stuff. I'm wondering this from the apparent 'you need to be already bad to become corrupted by chaos'.
If you don't have to be, then why didn't they let [sp] Vespasian live and corrupt him? [/sp]
[QUOTE=gnisasas;33700702]I wonder what Fulgrim had to attract Tzeentch.
He became corrupted after entering the [sp]Laer temple[/sp] and grabbing the [sp]possesed Laer sword[/sp].
He became obsessed with it, as it whispered to him and it drove him crazy, really turning him into an extravagant fellow, and from that point on he really did Tzeentchie stuff.
But at a later point in the Fulgrim book, [sp] lord commander Vespasian confronts Fulgrim for abandoning Salomon Demeter and his company in a battle against the orks. Fulgrim makes him watch his possesed portrait and Tzeentch stares into Vespasian's soul, looking for evil stuff, but he finds none as Vespasian has a pure soul, hence instead of corrupting him as both Fulgrim and Tzeentch originally planned, Tzeentch orders Fulgrim to kill him.[/sp]
This left me wondering, do you need to already have one of the 'bad' qualities from the Chaos Gods in order to become possesed by them? How did Fulgrim become possesed?
Fulgrim just enjoyed fine art, he enjoyed perfection, doing everything in the perfect manner.
Was it jealousy? Jealous of who or what? Not being as artistic? Of his brothers?
I'm not counting the stuff he becomes jealous of after becoming mad with the sword, nor all that bad stuff. I'm wondering this from the apparent 'you need to be already bad to become corrupted by chaos'.
If you don't have to be, then why didn't they let [sp] Vespasian live and corrupt him? [/sp][/QUOTE]
I'm willing to bet that it was the sword.
Also [URL="http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Fulgrim"]1d4Chan[/URL] says he looked at Slaanesh and was all like "dude/babe/the fuck you're perfect" in that weird way a black box can be "perfect", then of course he got possessed like that.
[QUOTE=Cone;33700851]I'm willing to bet that it was the sword.
Also [URL="http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Fulgrim"]1d4Chan[/URL] says he looked at Slaanesh and was all like "dude/babe/the fuck you're perfect" in that weird way a black box can be "perfect", then of course he got possessed like that.[/QUOTE]
Definitely the sword, however, maybe the sword's whispers of ''perfection'' or such was the motivation Fulgrim needed to fall to Chaos, seeing as he was already obsessed with perfection.
So Fulgrim didn't become possesed the very moment he grabbed the sword, but it was the whispers that drove him into doing bad stuff and finally Slaanesh possesed him?
[QUOTE=gnisasas;33700702]I wonder what Fulgrim had to attract Tzeentch.
He became corrupted after entering the [sp]Laer temple[/sp] and grabbing the [sp]possesed Laer sword[/sp].
He became obsessed with it, as it whispered to him and it drove him crazy, really turning him into an extravagant fellow, and from that point on he really did Tzeentchie stuff.
But at a later point in the Fulgrim book, [sp] lord commander Vespasian confronts Fulgrim for abandoning Salomon Demeter and his company in a battle against the orks. Fulgrim makes him watch his possesed portrait and Tzeentch stares into Vespasian's soul, looking for evil stuff, but he finds none as Vespasian has a pure soul, hence instead of corrupting him as both Fulgrim and Tzeentch originally planned, Tzeentch orders Fulgrim to kill him.[/sp]
This left me wondering, do you need to already have one of the 'bad' qualities from the Chaos Gods in order to become possesed by them? How did Fulgrim become possesed?
Fulgrim just enjoyed fine art, he enjoyed perfection, doing everything in the perfect manner.
Was it jealousy? Jealous of who or what? Not being as artistic? Of his brothers?
I'm not counting the stuff he becomes jealous of after becoming mad with the sword, nor all that bad stuff. I'm wondering this from the apparent 'you need to be already bad to become corrupted by chaos'.
If you don't have to be, then why didn't they let [sp] Vespasian live and corrupt him? [/sp][/QUOTE]
Vespasian was too nice a guy for chaos
And Fulgrim turned to Slaanesh
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Not Tzeentch
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That was Magnus
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Vespasian essentially rejected Chaos outright by daring to confront and contradict his superior officer
[QUOTE=Konigstiger96;33701230]Vespasian was too nice a guy for chaos
And Fulgrim turned to Slaanesh
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Not Tzeentch
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That was Magnus
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Vespasian essentially rejected Chaos outright by daring to confront and contradict his superior officer[/QUOTE]
Oh shit haha confused their names there
[QUOTE=gnisasas;33701016]So Fulgrim didn't become possesed the very moment he grabbed the sword, but it was the whispers that drove him into doing bad stuff and finally Slaanesh possesed him?[/QUOTE]
Yes.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/kdYFY.png[/img]
Thought I'd just post something to get this thread back rolling.
[QUOTE=Asgard;33706302][img]http://i.imgur.com/kdYFY.png[/img]
Thought I'd just post something to get this thread back rolling.[/QUOTE]
Reminds me of
[img]http://i.imgur.com/1mtlk.png[/img]
I'll just leave these here. Apologies if they have been posted earlier in the thread - I'm not browsing through 200+ pages just to look for a couple of videos
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fybn5yBtWkQ&feature=related[/media]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAaF3adEx-o&feature=related[/media]
How did I miss this? I was in Saudi, but holy shit.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7glPda2Lcc&feature=related[/media]
[QUOTE=TheHypnotoad;33708231]How did I miss this? I was in Saudi, but holy shit.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7glPda2Lcc&feature=related[/media][/QUOTE]
I still cringe when I hear the "this...........is a LIE" part, it just doesn't work at all, same for most of the writing in general.
[quote]Fulgrim just enjoyed fine art, he enjoyed perfection, doing everything in the perfect manner. [/quote]
He didn't just enjoy perfection, he obsessed over it, and obsessing over something that is inherently unatainable, is right up Slaanesh's alley, look at his conversation with the scultptor, true, Fulgrims Sculpts were technically perfect and techincally beautiful, but it lacked the passion and soul of true art/beauty/perfection, and he pretty much threw a tantrum at that.
In short, Fulgrim was an utter douche. He was like one of those wannabe gangstas who thinks he's all that.
[QUOTE=RayvenQ;33710769]He didn't just enjoy perfection, he obsessed over it, and obsessing over something that is inherently unatainable, is right up Slaanesh's alley, look at his conversation with the scultptor, true, Fulgrims Sculpts were technically perfect and techincally beautiful, but it lacked the passion and soul of true art/beauty/perfection, and he pretty much threw a tantrum at that.
In short, Fulgrim was an utter douche. He was like one of those [b]genetic superhuman clones of the most powerful human to have ever existed[/b] who thinks he's all that.[/QUOTE]
Fix'd
But yeah Fulgrim was kind of a douche
[QUOTE=RearAdmiral;33711624]Fix'd
But yeah Fulgrim was kind of a douche[/QUOTE]
Except, you know, pretty much most of the other primarchs were fairly alright, albeit a few weren't, but that was rather due to their upbringing.
Gotta get my fucking hobby table back. I had to move it upstairs last Christmas and it pretty much stayed there. But now there's actually stuff on it, but I need it.
First world problems.
Damn! i cant decide what army too start, i got it down to these choices:
Elysians
Sisters of battle
Dark eldar
Tyrants Legion
Necrons
What would you say and why? Any thoughts are appreciated.
[QUOTE=Fadern;33715525]Damn! i cant decide what army too start, i got it down to these choices:
Elysians
Sisters of battle
Dark eldar
Tyrants Legion
Necrons
What would you say and why? Any thoughts are appreciated.[/QUOTE]
Why do you want to play each army? AFAIK, there are special rules for Elysians in one of the Imperial Armour books.
The basics are done. I think I'll paint all the weapons and accessories and let her pick which she puts on.
Need to wait for the decals anyway. Needs some details and touchups.
[img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/photo410.JPG[/img]
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;33715609]The basics are done. I think I'll paint all the weapons and accessories and let her pick which she puts on.
Need to wait for the decals anyway. Needs some details and touchups.
[img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/photo410.JPG[/img][/QUOTE]
I can't help but feel this needs to be pinker.
Better than anything I could produce, though.
Dwarf Flesh was as pink as it got on the GW website and I didn't have the time to experiment with different brands and colors.
As it is it's still not going to be done by the time we exchange gifts but it'll be close enough.
[QUOTE=Fadern;33715525]Damn! i cant decide what army too start, i got it down to these choices:
Elysians
Sisters of battle
Dark eldar
Tyrants Legion
Necrons
What would you say and why? Any thoughts are appreciated.[/QUOTE]
I think none of those are fun, and I don't know you at all. Choosing a army is personal. I chose the Blood Angels because of their style and canon. I can't choose for you.
I choose the Tau because I believe in their principles and society. I think they're the least Grimdark race (which most people HATE) but to me that appealed to me. Add in their advanced tech, marksmanship, the ability to co-op other races into their Empire with diplomacy and the hint of Asian aesthetics and I had a match.
[QUOTE=RayvenQ;33710769]He didn't just enjoy perfection, he obsessed over it, and obsessing over something that is inherently unatainable, is right up Slaanesh's alley, look at his conversation with the scultptor, true, Fulgrims Sculpts were technically perfect and techincally beautiful, but it lacked the passion and soul of true art/beauty/perfection, and he pretty much threw a tantrum at that.
In short, Fulgrim was an utter douche. He was like one of those wannabe gangstas who thinks he's all that.[/QUOTE]
You're right, but that got me thinking, the conversation with the sculptor Ostian happens after he's influenced by the sword if I recall correctly, and it's strue he strives for perfection. What I'd like to know is how Fulgrim showed this obsession before he grabbed the sword.
So I just checked the initial pages of the book during the invasion of Laeran, and you can already see how pissy, authoritarian and arrogant Fulgrim is. This is what I wanted to see, as personally, after he grabs the sword Fulgrim's personality becomes accented and twisted and it's not really only himself anymore, but he and the sword.
I guess as it was the beginning of the book I didn't give too much attention to it, but I find it interesting stuff to note.
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