Warhammer 40k: Megathread V1 - FOR THE EMPEROR - Games

[QUOTE=the_killer24;31230120]Redundancy. Hoboharry stop posting old images[/QUOTE] How should i know that they're old? [editline]20th July 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Boba_Fett;31229968]Because they're the leaders, and leaders never wear helmets. [editline]20th July 2011[/editline] [img]http://image.gamespotcdn.net/gamespot/images/2011/199/960400_20110719_640screen010.jpg[/img] A heavy bolter with both a ammo-belt and a drum magazine? HERESY![/QUOTE] Looks sweet, is that from Dark Millenium?

[QUOTE=spartan-9081;31230269]First a plasma gun working like an assault rifle and now shields? What the fuck.[/QUOTE] I always kinda imagined that the plasma guns having different settings, the low pulse one and one that you could charge up. This way if a marine with it got separated he would be fucked over. I'm probably wrong though

[QUOTE=Hoboharry;31230302]How should i know that they're old? [/QUOTE] Last posted image (Chaos Lords): 27 November 2008

[QUOTE=the_killer24;31230337]Last posted image (Chaos Lords): 27 November 2008[/QUOTE] Fair enough, but that doesn't mean everybody else has seen the images, so i might as well post them.

[QUOTE=acds;31229712]Mutliplayer for Space Marine: [url]http://www.gametrailers.com/video/multiplayer-interview-warhammer-40-000/717665[/url] (there are 2 more too)[/QUOTE] A lascannon is NOT a sniper. They got Lascannons wrong, Space Marines wrong (Size..and since when do they have shields on each marine?), Plasma guns wrong...Suprisingly got bolters mostly right. Heavy bolters wrong. Although i guess weapons can be explained by saying there are a large amount of variants and Forge worlds which could offer slight differences (such as a weaker but faster firing plasma weapon) For example, the Lascannon could be a Man-Portable Lascannon or whatever they are called which are designed to be used by a single person. Seriously, why is it so difficult to make a game that doesn't butcher fluff in some way? Firewarrior got everything right. [QUOTE=Nikota;31229692]Can anyone explain to me the obsession with space marines and not wearing helmets? Cant like a random shrapnel shard just hit them in the eye?[/QUOTE] Appranantly they now have foreheads which can surive the same as tanks can (see Dreadknights)

It just bugged the shit out of me in Dawn of War 2. Since the entire thing was just "Fuck helmets were awesome"

[QUOTE=nightlord;31230443]A lascannon is NOT a sniper. They got Lascannons wrong, Space Marines wrong (Size..and since when do they have shields on each marine?), Plasma guns wrong...Suprisingly got bolters mostly right. Heavy bolters wrong. Although i guess weapons can be explained by saying there are a large amount of variants and Forge worlds which could offer slight differences (such as a weaker but faster firing plasma weapon) For example, the Lascannon could be a Man-Portable Lascannon or whatever they are called which are designed to be used by a single person. Seriously, why is it so difficult to make a game that doesn't butcher fluff in some way? Firewarrior got everything right.[/QUOTE] If only Relic would make it more like Fire Warrior , that way we'd have a perfected, good graphic WH40K FPS. Also, why would they use lascannons in space marine vs chaos space marine, i thought lascannons were more formidable at taking down vehicles?

[QUOTE=Hoboharry;31230668]If only Relic would make it more like Fire Warrior , that way we'd have a perfected, good graphic WH40K FPS. Also, why would they use lascannons in space marine vs chaos space marine, i thought lascannons were more formidable at taking down vehicles?[/QUOTE] Um...power armor?

[QUOTE=Hoboharry;31230668]If only Relic would make it more like Fire Warrior , that way we'd have a perfected, good graphic WH40K FPS. Also, why would they use lascannons in space marine vs chaos space marine, i thought lascannons were more formidable at taking down vehicles?[/QUOTE] AP2. Thats why!

[QUOTE=Hoboharry;31230668]If only Relic would make it more like Fire Warrior , that way we'd have a perfected, good graphic WH40K FPS. Also, why would they use lascannons in space marine vs chaos space marine, i thought lascannons were more formidable at taking down vehicles?[/QUOTE] According to Relic, It's a sniper.

[QUOTE=nightlord;31230443]A lascannon is NOT a sniper. They got Lascannons wrong, Space Marines wrong (Size..and since when do they have shields on each marine?), Plasma guns wrong...Suprisingly got bolters mostly right. Heavy bolters wrong. Although i guess weapons can be explained by saying there are a large amount of variants and Forge worlds which could offer slight differences (such as a weaker but faster firing plasma weapon) For example, the Lascannon could be a Man-Portable Lascannon or whatever they are called which are designed to be used by a single person. Seriously, why is it so difficult to make a game that doesn't butcher fluff in some way? Firewarrior got everything right. Appranantly they now have foreheads which can surive the same as tanks can (see Dreadknights)[/QUOTE] 1: Fire warrior sold five copies. 2: GW does not want them to get it to fluff-right because it directly eats into their core business, which they have stated rather directly. There will never be fluff accurate electronic titles. EVER.

[QUOTE=27X;31230926]1: Fire warrior sold five copies. 2: GW does not want them to get it to fluff-right because it directly eats into their core business, which they have stated rather directly. There will never be fluff accurate electronic titles. EVER.[/QUOTE] I really don't see how a fluff-accurate third person shooter would take a chunk out of their miniatures.

[QUOTE=27X;31230926] 2: GW does not want them to get it to fluff-right because it directly eats into their core business, which they have stated rather directly. There will never be fluff accurate electronic titles. EVER.[/QUOTE] I don`t really see any sense in this.

It's not about opinions of what is good or awesome, it's about GW's economic model and THQ's obtaining of mass market level commodity leverage. Be glad that relic can get as far as they can, cause they're a lot lower on the food chain than most people realize. Case in Point: Kill Team uses relic assets, and relic had no approval in that process. That's how it works. *shrug*

[QUOTE=27X;31230926] 2: GW does not want them to get it to fluff-right because it directly eats into their core business, which they have stated rather directly. There will never be fluff accurate electronic titles. EVER.[/QUOTE] We've had this discussion before. Getting stuff wrong fluff-wise would make fans of W40K/Whatever like it less. Making it correct would ATTRACT buisness. Doesn't make sense, there is no reason why it would eat into their buisness. Also, got a source for where they said it? Also, Firewarrior was Fluff-accurate. So you are wrong.

[QUOTE=27X;31231003]It's not about opinions of what is good or awesome, it's about GW's economic model and THQ's obtaining of mass market level commodity leverage. Be glad that relic can get as far as they can, cause they're a lot lower on the food chain than most people realize. Case in Point: Kill Team uses relic assets, and relic had no approval in that process. That's how it works. *shrug*[/QUOTE] I'd like a source on the games not being fluff-accurate because of potential damages to their miniature market. Fluff-inaccuracy seems more of a consequence of the "balance/gameplay first" mentality.

[QUOTE=nightlord;31231102]We've had this discussion before. Getting stuff wrong fluff-wise would make fans of W40K/Whatever like it less. Making it correct would ATTRACT buisness. Doesn't make sense, there is no reason why it would eat into their buisness. Also, got a source for where they said it? Also, Firewarrior was Fluff-accurate. So you are wrong.[/QUOTE] Are you implying that in fluff, a boltgun projectile travels as slow as in the opening cutscene onf Firewarrior? Actually, a true definition of fluff-accurate doesn't exist because [B]fluff is not consistent[/B]

[QUOTE=nightlord;31230925]According to Relic, It's a sniper.[/QUOTE] Couldn't they just use a regular scout sniper, or a scoped bolter? It just doesn't make sense that the lascannon would be a sniper.

[QUOTE=the_killer24;31231181]Are you implying that in fluff, a boltgun projectile travels as slow as in the opening cutscene onf Firewarrior? Actually, a true definition of fluff-accurate doesn't exist because [B]fluff is not consistent[/B][/QUOTE] Never noticed that before. Other than that everything else seems fine. That's not a major issue like the things in DoW, Space Marine Etc. Was the speed of a Bolter described in Fluff before Firewarrior?

[QUOTE=Hoboharry;31231222]Couldn't they just use a regular scout sniper, or a scoped bolter? It just doesn't make sense that the lascannon would be a sniper.[/QUOTE] It can be used as a sniping weapon to take out, say, powered-armored enemies in the sense that a PTRD with an optic can fulfill the same ranged anti-infantry purpose as a scoped Mosin-Nagant.

[QUOTE=nightlord;31230443]A lascannon is NOT a sniper. They got Lascannons wrong, Space Marines wrong (Size..and since when do they have shields on each marine?), Plasma guns wrong...Suprisingly got bolters mostly right. Heavy bolters wrong. Although i guess weapons can be explained by saying there are a large amount of variants and Forge worlds which could offer slight differences (such as a weaker but faster firing plasma weapon) For example, the Lascannon could be a Man-Portable Lascannon or whatever they are called which are designed to be used by a single person. [/QUOTE] Seems Marine portable to me. [img]http://cf.mp-cdn.net/79/0d/c7d79c58bf2d920aad519f5bc122.jpg[/img] [quote]Appranantly they now have foreheads which can surive the same as tanks can (see Dreadknights) [/quote] Ragnar survived a sniper shot to the head. [QUOTE=27X;31230926]1: Fire warrior sold five copies. 2: GW does not want them to get it to fluff-right because it directly eats into their core business, which they have stated rather directly. There will never be fluff accurate electronic titles. EVER.[/QUOTE] 2 = Bullshit. Fluff right in no way eats into the core business, at all. Obviously according to GW, FLuff Background = Eating into their core business, otherwise why would they send mat ward out to butcher it!

[QUOTE=RayvenQ;31231374]Seems Marine portable to me. [/QUOTE] They hold it more like a LasGun, not shoulder mounted - like a normal bolter. There is a variant which is designed to be held by normal humans.

[QUOTE=nightlord;31231473]They hold it more like a LasGun, not shoulder mounted - like a normal bolter. There is a variant which is designed to be held by normal humans.[/QUOTE] Space Marines carry regular (not man portable) Lascannons.

Like this? [img]http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/2158/lascannon2kq6.jpg[/img] And no, LasCannons are NOT held by normal humans nor designed to, at least not unsupported (by a tripod or something)

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I cant decide whether to get Space Marine on my computer or my Xbox. I really want to preorder it, but there has been occasions where the PC/Xbox port has sucked dick and I dont want that to happen to me.

[QUOTE=RayvenQ;31231556]Like this? [img]http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/2158/lascannon2kq6.jpg[/img] And no, LasCannons are NOT held by normal humans nor designed to, at least not unsupported (by a tripod or something)[/QUOTE] I know they aren't. But there IS a variant that is. The one in Space marine is about half the size of that and doesn't need the backpack. [QUOTE=Antary;31231532]Space Marines carry regular (not man portable) Lascannons.[/QUOTE] I know that, but they don't in Space marine.

[QUOTE=RayvenQ;31231374]Seems Marine portable to me. [img]http://cf.mp-cdn.net/79/0d/c7d79c58bf2d920aad519f5bc122.jpg[/img] Ragnar survived a sniper shot to the head. 2 = Bullshit. Fluff right in no way eats into the core business, at all. Obviously according to GW, FLuff Background = Eating into their core business, otherwise why would they send mat ward out to butcher it![/QUOTE] Again Opinion from customer base != GW's operating model. Hating it seems to have rather little impact on their logistical concerns. TT and Fluff-Direct hasn't happened yet, and the MMO won't be either.

[QUOTE=27X;31232311]Again Opinion from customer base != GW's operating model. Hating it seems to have rather little impact on their logistical concerns.[/QUOTE] Got a source for them never going to make a fluff correct game? It sounds completely wrong to me and unless i see recent proof i won't believe it, it seems stupid. But then again..so does Matt Ward....

Chambers two years ago, and several posts from Noun and Task3r on relic's home forums.