Heroes of Might and Magic VI - Games

[QUOTE=chill_dude;25458716]We gotta keep this thread alive.. Is Heroes 2 any good?[/QUOTE] Yeah it is, people usually say that it's like a countdown: 3>2>1

This is such a nostalgia. Heroes III was so fucking awesome. Used to play it with my friends on one computer. Maan, this game is superb. [editline]17th October 2010[/editline] brb, finding the disc.

3 was great, 4 was a complete turd, 5 was just fine

The only bad thing about III was that during the first game load you couldn't skip the long intro.

I must say I really don't like the green in the Necropolis though.

[QUOTE=acds;25459021]I must say I really don't like the green in the Necropolis though.[/QUOTE] Yeah, they look like Necrons from WH40k.

[QUOTE=Jericho_Rus;25459190]Yeah, they look like Necrons from WH40k.[/QUOTE] Yeah now they really do. In 5 they felt like the undead in Warcraft (with green gas and shit) and used Gothic architecture, now they use an architecture very reminiscent of Necrons, and have the same green lights. [editline]17th October 2010[/editline] Also here are the various .pdfs of the currently known factions: Haven: [url]http://www.mediafire.com/?ca3m31vu1bed9q2[/url] Necropolis: [url]http://www.mediafire.com/?1gpyqn7q0xx4tg8[/url] Inferno: [url]http://www.mediafire.com/?twc3b2bdjlhioqo[/url] [editline]17th October 2010[/editline] Seems like Necropolis is going to focus on long battles and weakening the enemy over time (through spells or heavy defence and long range attacking), which I'm happy with because that's my favourite play-style.

Watching the gameplay trailers, I'm seriously considering picking this up. Can anyone reccomend Heroes V ? I Might get it off steam.

[QUOTE=FOOJE08;25460103]Watching the gameplay trailers, I'm seriously considering picking this up. Can anyone reccomend Heroes V ? I Might get it off steam.[/QUOTE] If you like the type of game, I'd say it's definitely worth it. If you get 5 be sure to get the two expansions too, they make the game a lot better. [editline]17th October 2010[/editline] Also if you have a friend to play hotseat with, the game becomes twice as good.

[QUOTE=FOOJE08;25460103]Watching the gameplay trailers, I'm seriously considering picking this up. Can anyone reccomend Heroes V ? I Might get it off steam.[/QUOTE] What other games in the series did you play? [editline]17th October 2010[/editline] My prediction is that after VI will come out the list will be like this: 3rd>2nd>6th>5th. They clearly understood what we would like and coming back to III. However I quite don't like the idea of having only 4 types of resources, 5 factions (it's more like they'll add new ones after the release just to get :20bux:), way too many spells (because I didn't use them in every battle and was kinda "meh" to magic). These are the only things that bug me. Everything else sounds awesomely great. [editline]17th October 2010[/editline] Also, this might be offtopic but what happened to the Might and Magic series? I remember playing the 8th one, it was purely awesome. It had this some kind of card game about castles, don't remember the name. Then, I remember playing the 3D 9th one which I played a couple of times and then uninstalled.

[QUOTE=Jericho_Rus;25460474]What other games in the series did you play? [editline]17th October 2010[/editline] My prediction is that after VI will come out the list will be like this: 3rd>2nd>6th>5th. They clearly understood what we would like and coming back to III. However I quite don't like the idea of having only 4 types of resources, 5 factions (it's more like they'll add new ones after the release just to get :20bux:), way too many spells (because I didn't use them in every battle and was kinda "meh" to magic). These are the only things that bug me. Everything else sounds awesomely great. [editline]17th October 2010[/editline] Also, this might be offtopic but what happened to the Might and Magic series? I remember playing the 8th one, it was purely awesome. It had this some kind of card game about castles, don't remember the name. Then, I remember playing the 3D 9th one which I played a couple of times and then uninstalled.[/QUOTE] I too am not really liking this resource system, but the old one wasn't perfect either (the old one with some changes would have been best). As for the races, I don't think they are thinking strictly money, it's also that adding more would delay the game quite a bit, and 5 isn't a bad start (but since they are few they better be done well). Also Ubisoft is making Might & Magic a franchise (more than it was before), hence the change to Might & Magic: Heroes. A second Dark Messiah for example would be called Might and Magic: Dark Messiah 2 (if only Arkane hadn't left Ubisoft...). We'll probably see another Might and Magic game (though it won't be called that, otherwise it'd be "Might and Magic: Might and Magic").

Thanks for answering, acds. :3: So, I re-re-re-re-re-re-reinstalled the 3rd game. I got nostalgia'd again but I can't seem to have as much fun as I did even a year or two ago. :smith: And now I'm reinstalling the 5th one. I didn't even finish it.

[QUOTE=Bird;25463011]Any planed dlcs/expansions yet? I know it's kinda early to ask but some games (sc2) promised extra content really early in development.[/QUOTE] Don't think so. But they might do some new races + campaigns for them.

[QUOTE=Bird;25463011]Any planed dlcs/expansions yet? I know it's kinda early to ask but some games (sc2) promised extra content really early in development.[/QUOTE] Expansions seem to be planned. [editline]17th October 2010[/editline] Also the confirmed terrains are Jungle, Plains/Grassland (spring and autumn), Volcanic, Wasteland and Underground. Since there are 5 factions and usually each faction has it's own terrain: Grassland: Haven Volcanic: Inferno Wasteland: Necropolis This leaves Jungle and Underground. The developers said that one of the two unannounced factions will be completely new to the series, so maybe: Jungle: Nagas? They haven't been in any Heroes game as a faction. Underground: Dungeon? I can't think of any other faction that fits the Underground terrain. Also, some artwork from around the time HoMMVI started development depicts Nagas: [media]http://a.imageshack.us/img829/4127/ledroitbushi.jpg [url]http://a.imageshack.us/img843/4806/ledroitgeisha.jpg[/url][/media] Still that could very well have been art for a HoMMV expansion, as they had thought of adding Nagas to the game (but it never came to be). Also they are quite over-the-top with armours and stuff, so it would fit HoMM5 more. [editline]17th October 2010[/editline] Also in these images: [media]http://img1.liveinternet.ru/images/attach/c/0//63/30/63030958_Sfinks.jpg [url]http://img0.liveinternet.ru/images/attach/c/0//63/31/63031048_Asha_Vopl.jpg[/url][/media] We get to see some possible Necro units, so maybe it won't be as predictable as the other times.

Looking at the last two screenshots, they seem to combine some units together in one race. Also, since there's no snow in the list, I'm pretty positive about an expansion.

[QUOTE=Jericho_Rus;25464124]Looking at the last two screenshots, they seem to combine some units together in one race. Also, since there's no snow in the list, I'm pretty positive about an expansion.[/QUOTE] Considering the Sphinx is with the Necros, I'm guessing that the Academy won't be in the same style of HoMMV (in which they had an Arabic and Indian style, I know the Sphinx is Egyptian but they are usually paired with the former two in games). If there even is a Wizard faction in HoMMVI (vanilla at least).

I tried the other heroes games and damn they were bad.Heroes 3 was and will always be the best heroes game.After playing heroes 3 so much in my life I don't really think that I can play and enjoy another heroes 3 game.

holy fuck i suck at heroes 3 i keep dying to simple shit like dwarves

I'd prefer a 1:1 remake of HoMM3, rather than a new game to ruin the series even more.

I really wish that this game would have had all of the HoMM3 factions with a few changes (Inferno buff, Necropolis nerf, etc). I just grew so accustomed to them and have so much nostalgia. I never really cared much for Conflux though, seemed superficial to me as it was added in an expansion and reused neutral units (the elementals).

[QUOTE=BeardyDuck;25469779]holy fuck i suck at heroes 3 i keep dying to simple shit like dwarves[/QUOTE] Don't underestimate Dwarfs, they are pretty damn good actually. Wait a while before taking them on. [QUOTE=nige111;25469940]I'd prefer a 1:1 remake of HoMM3, rather than a new game to ruin the series even more.[/QUOTE] It's true that 5 wasn't anywhere near as good as 3, but it wasn't bad. Having played H3 for more than 500 hours, I must say that it's awesome, but without changes and innovation it would just become boring (I don't play H3 anymore unless it's a hotseat). Also H3 was far from perfect, there are a lot of things that could be fixed, and even more that could be added. What we need is a sequel that keeps the formula and innovates it. H4 took the formula and fucked it up, 5 tried to go back a bit and was instantly 5x better than 4. Nearly all of the additions in 6 seems to be good, except for the resources. One thing they should do is go back to the dark and Gothic style of H3, the devils in 5 look like pussies compared to the ones in 3 (and when you entered the Inferno or Necropolis and saw the town screen, you knew that this was some seriously evil shit in there). [editline]18th October 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=G-Guy;25471643]I really wish that this game would have had all of the HoMM3 factions with a few changes (Inferno buff, Necropolis nerf, etc). I just grew so accustomed to them and have so much nostalgia. I never really cared much for Conflux though, seemed superficial to me as it was added in an expansion and reused neutral units (the elementals).[/QUOTE] What they need to do is improve the formula, not change it. Oh and Conflux was the most boring town in H3 by far. [editline]18th October 2010[/editline] [quote=BHE's Facebook]Yes, the 3D model of the town on the adventure map will change according to your actions. If you upgrade your town, its model will change; if you build a level 1 wall then a level 1 wall will appear around your town; and so on. [/quote] A tid-bit from their FB page. Also I hope they stop news-starving us soon, I mean they release the game in 5 months and we still haven't seen anything other than very early pre-alpha footage and we still don't knew what the two other factions are. And if they really are going to have a beta they can't wait much longer to release it. Also looking back at the terrains and factions, I'd say the 4th faction is Sylvan/Rampart, not Dungeon. Plains are both autumn and spring, and both those are typical of both Haven and Rampart. Underground on the other hand, while being typical of Dungeon, doesn't [B]have[/B] to be, as it's purpose isn't solely of belonging to a faction, but being used when you go in underground tunnels. Autumn and spring plains on the other hand don't really have a reason to exist in two different types other than belonging to two different factions. Not to mention that as of now we have 2 Evil (Necropolis and Inferno) and 1 Good (Haven) faction, if they added Dungeon we'd end up with 3 evil and 2 good (or 3 evil, 1 neutral and 1 good depending on the 5th faction). If they add Rampart instead of Dungeon, we have 2 good and 2 evil factions, then it would fit the 5th one being Nagas/Fortress as they are neutral (and they fit the jungle terrain).

Conflux was my favorite town when i was younger.. I really hope they give us some info soon..

What was your favourite faction out of all games by the way? I really can't choose, but probably people with these badass monks. Also, I hate how people are looking in V and VI's trailer. Way too much armor plates'n'shit.

[QUOTE=chill_dude;25483074]Conflux was my favorite town when i was younger.. I really hope they give us some info soon..[/QUOTE] I loved their magic-heavy style, and I loved the Phoenixes, but I found the town screen and other creatures to be boring, most were recycled neutrals. [editline]18th October 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Jericho_Rus;25484086]What was your favourite faction out of all games by the way? I really can't choose, but probably people with these badass monks. Also, I hate how people are looking in V and VI's trailer. Way too much armor plates'n'shit.[/QUOTE] Necropolis all the way. HoMMIII Necropolis was orgasmic. And the heavy plating and shit is due to the new world, Heroes1, 2 and 3 were on Erathia (I think), in Heroes 4 they had the good idea of smashing the Armageddon blade with another blade resulting in the Armageddon, so Heroes 4 took place on another planet entirely as the factions who survived arrived through portals from the other now dying world (which was also was used as explanation for the mangled factions). Heroes 5 and 6 take place in Ashan (same as Dark Messiah, and hopefully all other MM games from now on, what's the point of using the same universe if they only have the name in common?), which is why they changed the factions a lot (as they are actually different factions). The Heroes 3 world was my favourite (with all the creatures and heroes), but now they need to improve on Ashan, the last thing we need is [B]another[/B] world change. [editline]18th October 2010[/editline] Also they better release an awesome CE, I have the HoMM Complete Edition (huge white box with all games and all possible stuff), so I definitely want HoMMVI in a CE too (would feel wrong otherwise). Oh and bring back the Azure Dragons, those things were beasts.

[QUOTE=acds;25484501]I loved their magic-heavy style, and I loved the Phoenixes, but I found the town screen and other creatures to be boring, most were recycled neutrals. [/QUOTE] I only played hot-seat in the complete edition so that might be why..

[QUOTE=acds;25484501] [editline]18th October 2010[/editline] Also they better release an awesome CE, I have the HoMM Complete Edition (huge white box with all games and all possible stuff), so I definitely want HoMMVI in a CE too (would feel wrong otherwise). [/QUOTE] You mean CE as Collector's Edition? I just hope there won't be any in-game exclusives. If it'll contain something cool, I'll definetly get it.

[QUOTE=Jericho_Rus;25488432]You mean CE as Collector's Edition? I just hope there won't be any in-game exclusives. If it'll contain something cool, I'll definetly get it.[/QUOTE] Yeah, Collector. I'd be happy with a cool box and some shit really, but if they added something like a cloth map or something it would be even better. [editline]18th October 2010[/editline] We really, really need news, we know 3 factions and only 1 or 2 units for them, and there are 4 months left until release. They said there was going to be a reveal in November though (that's a rumour, but considering they have a "secret" forum where they discuss everything with some chosen people from the community, rumours are pretty reliable in this case).

[QUOTE=acds;25488501]Yeah, Collector. I'd be happy with a cool box and some shit really, but if they added something like a cloth map or something it would be even better.[/QUOTE] These little replicas of characters/stuff from the game really mean something for me. But man, I hope that it'll be shipped to Mother Russia, or I'll have to order it :saddowns:. It's still too early to talk about it though.

Just bought the V collectors edition, couldn't bother getting III, sorry.

I really hope they don't screw this up.