Heroes of Might and Magic VI

[acds]

[QUOTE=Loofiloo;25894686]How did you have it affect all units? Playing with mods or something? I'm pretty sure that even with expert earth magic, it's only a single-target spell.

I always preferred to use berserk on them. It's like a better version of hypnotize, what with the area effect and the fact that it actually WORKS.

I think H4 made might somewhat better, or maybe it was just in a really long game. I mentioned earlier the months-long hotseat game I played with a friend in an XL map. Well, I was using the might city in that game, and my hero never learned a single form of magic. Eventually, she was stronger than any of my unit stacks in combat. My friend had his character do pretty much the opposite of me, learning every form of magic possible. We were allied in that map, so we never got to find out who was really stronger.[/QUOTE]

I don't remember perfectly, but I do believe we were using WoG (bad choice since it just clutters everything with excessive options and stuff).

[acds]

Succubi:
[img]http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs970.snc4/76330_460557224587_161184829587_5315212_5110937_n.jpg[/img]

Temptress:
[img]http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1128.snc4/149062_460557194587_161184829587_5315211_6175548_n.jpg[/img]

They look actually pretty tame, considering they are supposed to be Succubi (compare it with the HoMMV Dungeon, or Xana in Dark Messiah).

[editline]8th November 2010[/editline]

Also at first I thought: "Why do they never have Incubi instead of Succubi?"
Then I realized I'd rather not see a guy in full bondage gear and a whip wiggling his ass all over the place.

[junker|154]

Oh shite, I hated those. Always killed my units.

[Jericho_Rus]

Looks okay, I guess. Nice whip. :q:

[acds]

So up until now we have:

Haven:
Core: Sentinel/Praetorian, Crossbowman/Marksman, Griffin/Imperial Griffin
Elite:
Champion: Seraph/Celestial

Necropolis:
Core: Skeleton/Bone Guard, Ghoul/Grave Ghoul, Ghost/Spectre
Elite: Vampire/Vampire Lord, Lich/Arch-Lich, *possibly Sphinx*
Champion: Spiderwoman (no official name released)

Inferno:
Core: Hellhound/Cerberus, Tormentor/Excruciator
Elite: Succubi/Temptress, Pit Fiend/Pit Lord, Juggernaut/Juggernaut Ravager
Champion: *Hopefully Devils*

I am guessing some placements here (like the Tormentor, I'd expect the Succubi to be stronger so I'm guessing the Tormentor is Core, because no way that the Pit Fiend and Juggernaut are Core), but it should be something like this.

[editline]8th November 2010[/editline]

[QUOTE=Jericho_Rus;25936195]Looks okay, I guess. Nice whip. :q:[/QUOTE]

Looks a whole lot better than the ones in HoMMV:
[img]http://www.heroesofmightandmagic.com/heroes5/images/creature-shots/Inferno/infernal_succubus.jpg[/img]

[pr00ch]

They sure look nice.

[acds]

Sun Rider and the upgrade, Sun Crusader:

[img]http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs977.snc4/77073_461632529587_161184829587_5330727_3787731_n.jpg[/img]
[img]http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs968.snc4/76099_461632489587_161184829587_5330726_6681132_n.jpg[/img]

I'm not a fan of the horse, maybe the upgrade could have a horse like that, but not both.
Still, no matter how overdone at least they have realistic proportions and shapes (well, mostly), so it still will be better than in HoMMV.

[Jebus]

God just make it a 2D grid based game with HD sprites or something

Please

[acds]

[QUOTE=Jebus;26010288]God just make it a 2D grid based game with HD sprites or something

Please[/QUOTE]

That's probably never going to happen though, as awesome as it would be.
Making a high definition sprite probably takes a whole lot more effort than making a 3D model (also because 3D modelling programs have advanced a lot, I don't think the same can be said for spriting programs).

[acds]

New creature, the Lamasu:
Putrid Lamasu
[img]http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs470.ash2/74363_462994079587_161184829587_5342512_5667107_n.jpg[/img]

Festering Lamasu
[img]http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs983.snc4/75620_462994094587_161184829587_5342513_1361375_n.jpg[/img]

[acds]

[B]The Maniac[/B]
Maniacs are the spawns of Ur-Vormoch, the Demon Overlord of Madness. These demons are the spirits of the unbalanced, infuriated and unpredictable nature of Chaos.
A true offspring of their creator, the Maniacs excel at spreading fear and panic. The Maniacs cry and shriek in pain when attacking, and laugh when wounded.
The Demented is the upgraded Maniac.
[img]http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs978.snc4/77096_466244539587_161184829587_5380046_3911044_n.jpg[/img]
[img]http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs472.ash2/74557_466244554587_161184829587_5380047_4143501_n.jpg[/img]

Eh doesn't look too bad, I guess they are going more for a demented, mutated and twisted hell instead of the H3 one. The name of the un-upgraded one (Maniac) sucks though.

[Canary]

Me and a friend have been playing VII, it's good.

[acds]

So next one is either a Haven Elite or a Necro/Inferno champion (if I guessed the placements correctly).

Also the guys at HC are really sure that the Pit Lord is the Inferno Champion. I really do hope not, will leave it at Elite until proven otherwise.

[acds]

Priestess and the upgrade, Vestal:
[img]http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1204.snc4/155618_466834454587_161184829587_5386782_4966436_n.jpg[/img]
[img]http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1154.snc4/149660_466834479587_161184829587_5386783_484976_n.jpg[/img]

Fate Spinner and upgrade, Fate Weaver:
[img]http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs468.ash2/74124_467420019587_161184829587_5393051_3678184_n.jpg[/img]
[img]http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1201.snc4/155296_467420054587_161184829587_5393052_673002_n.jpg[/img]

Also:
[quote]* We can expect an update on the remaining factions on early December.
* Heroes can be customized for multiplayer.
* All schools will be accessible to all factions but they will favour a specific one.
* Advanced class do not work like in H4. They will have 2 unique abilities, including one ultimate.
* There will be 24 campaigns and 10 multiplayer maps.
* There will be mixed neutrals.
* 2011 will be the 25th anniversary of M&M, surprises are to be expected.
[/quote]

[Jericho_Rus]

Only 10 maps? That's outrageous!

[acds]

[QUOTE=Jericho_Rus;26158356]Only 10 maps? That's outrageous![/QUOTE]

I think the 10 maps refer to 10 of the melee maps, and 24 scenarios with preset factions.

[editline]19th November 2010[/editline]

I hope at least.

[acds]

The Breeder.

The Breeders were the result of Urgash crafting a material form that translated some of his own primordial drives. Specifically, the drive to consume mana and the drive to populate Ashan with hordes of creatures loyal to the dictates of Chaos. Bestowed upon Ur-Mespharoth, the Demon Overlord of Proliferation, the Breeder is an obese, pulsing mass of flesh that continually creates Imps. The Imps that she births are “spit” from the various orifices that randomly appear on her body.
Though this demon is almost incapable of movement, she constantly twitches and contracts with her insatiable need to procreate. This drive to reproduce eats her from the inside out, and much of her energy is consumed in efforts to control the mutations of her body. She will occasionally consume her own Imp offspring.
She uses the mana energy that she ingests to impregnate herself, as nourishment, and to help her control the gruesome deformities that are created by her ceaseless cycle of birthing.

The Mother Breeder is the upgraded Breeder.
[img]http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1153.snc4/149560_469265529587_161184829587_5419260_5969518_n.jpg[/img]
[img]http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1197.snc4/154941_469265554587_161184829587_5419261_869675_n.jpg[/img]

So the Pit Fiend is the Champion unit of Inferno. Well fuck.

Is it just me, or do the champion units not feel like they fit as the strongest faction unit?

[Trooth]

[QUOTE=acds;26158430]I think the 10 maps refer to 10 of the melee maps, and 24 scenarios with preset factions.

[editline]19th November 2010[/editline]

I hope at least.[/QUOTE]

I hope there's a map editor...

Or better yet, a random map generator.

'course they haven't had one of those since H3, so that's doubtful, especially since map layouts have just become increasingly elaborate. Still, seems like one should technically be possible since all the overworld maps are just a grid at their core.

[editline]22nd November 2010[/editline]

Seems like, in general, the devs haven't put as much love into the Heroes games after the third one.

[booster]

Some units could be way better, and some units could be way worse. Also, where are the dragons? Weren't there like a shit-ton of dragons in H3?

[acds]

[QUOTE=Loofiloo;26224072]I hope there's a map editor...

Or better yet, a random map generator.

'course they haven't had one of those since H3, so that's doubtful, especially since map layouts have just become increasingly elaborate. Still, seems like one should technically be possible since all the overworld maps are just a grid at their core.

[editline]22nd November 2010[/editline]

Seems like, in general, the devs haven't put as much love into the Heroes games after the third one.[/QUOTE]

There will be a map editor, and it should be more powerful than just mapping too (like the WC3 editor).
As for a RMG, I sure hope there will be, but I haven't heard anything about it. H5 had one, added in TotE if I recall correctly.

[editline]22nd November 2010[/editline]

[QUOTE=booster;26224211]Some units could be way better, and some units could be way worse. Also, where are the dragons? Weren't there like a shit-ton of dragons in H3?[/QUOTE]

Yes there were, but they have decided to cut down on them a lot and there won't be dragons outside of bosses.

[booster]

Also, have they revealed the last class yet?

[acds]

[QUOTE=booster;26225076]Also, have they revealed the last class yet?[/QUOTE]

You mean faction? Nope, we still only have 3 out of the 5 factions.
Though I'd be willing to bet that 4th is going to be Sylvan/Rampart/Nature and the 5th will be Nagas/Swamp/Water.

[acds]

The Radiant Glory

In the Spirit Realm, Elrath's dominion is filled with myriads of Light Elementals. Some are elevated by the Dragon-God of Light to a higher status. Vessels of the will of Elrath, sent as envoys and advisors to his most faithful followers, Radiant Glories are shining creatures who can flare into brilliance and blind their enemies. The generals of the Holy Empire soon found a use for these beings of burning light.

The Blazing Glory is the upgraded Radiant Glory.
[img]http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs992.snc4/76495_470459639587_161184829587_5433049_6888572_n.jpg[/img]
[img]http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1193.snc4/154499_470459544587_161184829587_5433048_1433194_n.jpg[/img]

Basically Light elementals. Not very imaginative, but since we already had loads of elementals I guess Light elementals aren't out of place.

[editline]24th November 2010[/editline]

Now we have all the units, which can only mean one thing: 4th faction soon :dance:

[acds]

[img]http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z199/Cepheus_03/Adventure_Map1.png[/img]
[img]http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z199/Cepheus_03/NECRO_Ghoul.png[/img]
[img]http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z199/Cepheus_03/NECRO_Skeleton.png[/img]
[img]http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z199/Cepheus_03/NECRO_Vampire.png[/img]

Well damn, the visuals are pretty fucking good.

[acds]

[QUOTE=Bird;26309272]Damn, good thing I got an i5 yesterday, otherwise I doubt I would have been able to play it.[/QUOTE]

Well I'm quite sure that's on max settings, but yeah this seems to be a lot more requiring than previous Heroes games (when H5 came out you could max it pretty easily with an old computer, H6 will probably require pretty new hardware).

[Jericho_Rus]

[QUOTE=acds;26307644][img_thumb]http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z199/Cepheus_03/Adventure_Map1.png[/img_thumb]
[img_thumb]http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z199/Cepheus_03/NECRO_Ghoul.png[/img_thumb]
[img_thumb]http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z199/Cepheus_03/NECRO_Skeleton.png[/img_thumb]
[img_thumb]http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z199/Cepheus_03/NECRO_Vampire.png[/img_thumb]

Well damn, the visuals are pretty fucking good.[/QUOTE]

Looks niceee. [sp]Until you look at the picture too long and start noticing details[/sp]

[Trooth]

[QUOTE=Jericho_Rus;26313233]Looks niceee. [sp]Until you look at the picture too long and start noticing details[/sp][/QUOTE]

Let's just, uh... Assume it's because it's still in development. :v:

[acds]

[QUOTE=Jericho_Rus;26313233]Looks niceee. [sp]Until you look at the picture too long and start noticing details[/sp][/QUOTE]

Well considering it's a Heroes game, it looks pretty astonishing. If you do that in H5 you won't be able to distinguish a face from an ass.

[Trooth]

[QUOTE=Bird;26315625]This makes me want to try the first and second HoMM games, just to see how it started.[/QUOTE]

I've seen a decent number of people say they actually like the second one better than the third, but I haven't tried it myself.

Of course I'm theorizing that some people just say that due to nostalgia.

Also I haven't seen anyone say they think the first game is the best... But it would be fun to see the game in its more primitive forms. Even though I get the feeling the interface or unit balance might not be up to par with the later games.

[editline]30th November 2010[/editline]

Looks like acds is banned for a month, so unless he has an alt we'll need someone else who cares enough to keep up to date on the latest information to update the thread.

[acds]

[QUOTE=Loofiloo;26416522]I've seen a decent number of people say they actually like the second one better than the third, but I haven't tried it myself.

Of course I'm theorizing that some people just say that due to nostalgia.

Also I haven't seen anyone say they think the first game is the best... But it would be fun to see the game in its more primitive forms. Even though I get the feeling the interface or unit balance might not be up to par with the later games.

[editline]30th November 2010[/editline]

Looks like acds is banned for a month, so unless he has an alt we'll need someone else who cares enough to keep up to date on the latest information to update the thread.[/QUOTE]

Not to worry, I'm here.
Not much as updates, but they did officially confirm the lineups. They also changed the names of some creatures:
[quote]- Priestess is now Sister
- Temptress is now Lilim
- Excruciator is now Lacerator
- Juggernaut Ravager is now Ravager
- Bone Guard is now Skeletal Spearman
- Grave Ghoul is now Ravenous Ghoul
- Putrid Lamasu is now Lamasu
- Festering Lamasu is now Putrid Lamasu[/quote]

Also the rumours are (or at least were) that the 4th faction was to be revealed in mid-November, and then got postponed until mid-December. So hopefully the fourth faction will be revealed within 10 days (which will be Elves/Sylvan/Rampart or Academy/Tower/Wizards, I'll eat my beard if it isn't).