Katawa Shoujo - "Disabled girls? Noooo...wait, really?" - Games

[QUOTE=Jund;34210439]Not everyone who's socially awkward has a mental disability[/QUOTE] I wasn't trying to suggest that at all I was just asking because to call Rin's behaviour "socially awkward" is a bit of an understatement, in my opinion.

[QUOTE=TrannyAlert;34210479]I guess not, but I'll post it then. Basically a nice fan fiction based after the Hanako good ending obviously. It's got quite a twist. [url]http://cplcrud.wordpress.com/4ls-era-fanworks-and-scraps/a-runners-afternoon/#comment-119[/url] Part 1 ^ [url]http://cplcrud.wordpress.com/4ls-era-fanworks-and-scraps/a-runners-afternoon-part-2/[/url] Part 2 ^[/QUOTE] There is a part two!? Makes it much better. (Still don't like it)

Rin's emotionally retarded, she must have some sort of condition.

rude

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_intelligence[/url] [QUOTE]Emotional intelligence (EI) is the [b]ability to identify, assess, and control the emotions of oneself, [/b]of others, and of groups.[/QUOTE] :colbert:

[QUOTE=MountainWatcher;34210864][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_intelligence[/url] :colbert:[/QUOTE] Is this to emphasize she's smarter intellectually than she's smart emotionally?

[QUOTE=TrannyAlert;34210479]I guess not, but I'll post it then. Basically a nice fan fiction based after the Hanako good ending obviously. It's got quite a twist. [url]http://cplcrud.wordpress.com/4ls-era-fanworks-and-scraps/a-runners-afternoon/#comment-119[/url] Part 1 ^ [url]http://cplcrud.wordpress.com/4ls-era-fanworks-and-scraps/a-runners-afternoon-part-2/[/url] Part 2 ^[/QUOTE] Oh god I had no idea there was a part 2 At least they [sp]Got together in the end[/sp] bittersweet good end get

[QUOTE=Nitro836;34210873]Is this to emphasize she's smarter intellectually than she's smart emotionally?[/QUOTE] No, to justify my usage of the expression "emotionally retarded"

[QUOTE=Nitro836;34210873]Is this to emphasize she's smarter intellectually than she's smart emotionally?[/QUOTE] I think she is Emotional Intelligent, except her intelligence isn't visible on the outside. It's all in her mind. Think about it, she can never say the right things because she forgets the words and since making up new words for the forgotten words would be useless, she doesn't show emotion at all but through her paintings, it is her way of communicating albeit a bit abstract and difficult to understand.

If she were Emotionally intelligent, she'd be able to fully understand her emotions. With clear emotions, you can easily express them through words.

[QUOTE=MountainWatcher;34210971]If she were Emotionally intelligent, she'd be able to fully understand her emotions. With clear emotions, you can easily express them through words.[/QUOTE] Do you? You might think you do, but everytime I get feelings or whatever it feels different, sometimes I don't even understand what I'm feeling and then I can't describe it anyway other than that something feels good or bad. Painting is an outlet to let yourself truly go, a way to describe emotions with colour and patterns that would otherwise be impossible to describe. I think Rin's way of expression is through her paintings and not through words.

[QUOTE=FalconKrunch;34211030]Do you? You might think you do, but everytime I get feelings or whatever it feels different, sometimes I don't even [b]understand what I'm feeling [/b]and then I can't describe it anyway other than that something feels good or bad. Painting is an outlet to let yourself truly go, a way to describe emotions with colour and patterns that would otherwise be impossible to describe. I think Rin's way of expression is through her paintings and not through words.[/QUOTE] That's my point here. What I think painting does is just paint something that invokes the same feeling that you're doing. That isn't identifying emotions, just transmitting them.

[QUOTE=MountainWatcher;34211075]That's my point here. What I think painting does is just paint something that invokes the same feeling that you're doing. That isn't identifying emotions, just transmitting them.[/QUOTE] I dunno, that depends per person I guess. I find that painting is a way for identifying yourself and your emotions. You just don't identify them through words but through image. EDIT: Let me put it this way, instead of feeling an emotion and then comparing that feeling to a list of words you think fit the description, you draw your emotion. This gives (for me) much more meaning to an emotion than a word.

[QUOTE=MountainWatcher;34211075]That's my point here. What I think painting does is just paint something that invokes the same feeling that you're doing. That isn't identifying emotions, just transmitting them.[/QUOTE] That's your personal take on it. Another person's take on it might be that they're painting something unseeable, something unknown, something about the soul of something, whether it be extension of their own regressions and dreams or something even they have hard time comprehending. Take that Hisao pic, for example. That picture conveys pretty well how Hisao looks through someone else's interpretation.

[QUOTE=TrannyAlert;34210479]I guess not, but I'll post it then. Basically a nice fan fiction based after the Hanako good ending obviously. It's got quite a twist. [url]http://cplcrud.wordpress.com/4ls-era-fanworks-and-scraps/a-runners-afternoon/#comment-119[/url] Part 1 ^ [url]http://cplcrud.wordpress.com/4ls-era-fanworks-and-scraps/a-runners-afternoon-part-2/[/url] Part 2 ^[/QUOTE] I kind of like it. It's exactly what I was talking about , to know more about what happens after. Will there be a 3rd part? I hope so since the end would be as abrupt and unsatisfying as her arc. EDIT: Most of the people seem to dislike it but I think it's worth reading and quite enjoyable. EDIT 2: As funny as it sounds, I think this additional "story" was what I needed to get away from the game, or at least to get my mind away from it.

[QUOTE=Nitro836;34211171]That's your personal take on it. Another person's take on it might be that they're painting something unseeable, something unknown, something about the soul of something, whether it be extension of their own regressions and dreams or something even they have hard time comprehending. Take that Hisao pic, for example. That picture conveys pretty well how Hisao looks through someone else's interpretation.[/QUOTE] And he couldn't see it himself in the mirror.

Also, Nitro836 what Hisao pic are you talking about.

Hold on, I think we're missing the point. The reason we can identify feelings with words in the first place is because we, when we learn a language, identify them already. This feeling is X, the other is Y, etc. Assuming we have a hold of the language (the list of words that correspond to the other list of "this"s), if we can't find words, it's because you can't find the "this" to begin with, that we can identify the emotion by itself, thje concept, the knowledge that is known without words, sounds or images. [editline]14th January 2012[/editline] (I'm not saying painting isn't about the self, BTW) [editline]14th January 2012[/editline] Hisao's drawing. thje one rin did in the art club.

I think Rin's just got an artistic temperament taken to an extreme.

[QUOTE=RearAdmiral;34211410]I think Rin's just got an artistic temperament taken to an extreme.[/QUOTE] It's also her only way of expressing herself since she can't make up the words. [QUOTE=MountainWatcher;34211385]Hold on, I think we're missing the point. The reason we can identify feelings with words in the first place is because we, when we learn a language, identify them already. This feeling is X, the other is Y, etc. Assuming we have a hold of the language (the list of words that correspond to the other list of "this"s), if we can't find words, it's because you can't find the "this" to begin with, that we can identify the emotion by itself, thje concept, the knowledge that is known without words, sounds or images. [editline]14th January 2012[/editline] (I'm not saying painting isn't about the self, BTW)[/quote] But painting something doesn't require to be taught, I think the only reason why people share their emotion through words is because otherwise people wouldn't understand. Paintings have a lot more expression but everyone thinks differently of the same piece and that causes confusion. I have a lot of people in my life tell me that I wouldn't be able to feel what they feel or to see the way they see it because everyone does it in their own way.

[QUOTE=MountainWatcher;34211385]Hold on, I think we're missing the point. The reason we can identify feelings with words in the first place is because we, when we learn a language, identify them already. This feeling is X, the other is Y, etc. Assuming we have a hold of the language (the list of words that correspond to the other list of "this"s), if we can't find words, it's because you can't find the "this" to begin with, that we can identify the emotion by itself, thje concept, the knowledge that is known without words, sounds or images. [/QUOTE] Getting off this debate here, I have no idea what the hell is going on.

Guess I'm shit at expressing myself, too. I guess I'll start the Husbandu line here.

If you REALLY want to feel bad for Hanako you should read this: [url]http://cplcrud.wordpress.com/4ls-era-fanworks-and-scraps/h29-%E2%80%93-future/[/url] Don't do it if you're an emotional wreck already it will make things worse I guess. Also this: [url]http://cplcrud.wordpress.com/4ls-era-fanworks-and-scraps/10-july-1990/[/url] Why did I read it? :smith:

[QUOTE=FalconKrunch;34211437]It's also her only way of expressing herself since she can't make up the words. But painting something doesn't require to be taught, I think the only reason why people share their emotion through words is because otherwise people wouldn't understand. Paintings have a lot more expression but everyone thinks differently of the same piece and that causes confusion. I have a lot of people in my life tell me that I wouldn't be able to feel what they feel or to see the way they see it because everyone does it in their own way.[/QUOTE] Remember where we started, this wasn't about expression, it was about identification of emotions.

[QUOTE=MountainWatcher;34211540]Remember where we started, this wasn't about expression, it was about identification of emotions.[/QUOTE] But seeing you need to be taught what words belong to what feeling, don't you think that painting it would be a whole lot more natural? That's how I view it. Also, I have posted more in two days than I have in ages.

I think Rin has just some problems with expressing herself verbally and her mind sometimes drifts away a bit. Also I'm doing some small photoshopping so I'll have a new avatar soon.

[QUOTE=<Insert Name>;34211517]If you REALLY want to feel bad for Hanako you should read this: [url]http://cplcrud.wordpress.com/4ls-era-fanworks-and-scraps/h29-%E2%80%93-future/[/url] Don't do it if you're an emotional wreck already it will make things worse I guess. Also this: [url]http://cplcrud.wordpress.com/4ls-era-fanworks-and-scraps/10-july-1990/[/url] Why did I read it? :smith:[/QUOTE] Bad ending?

[QUOTE=<Insert Name>;34211517]If you REALLY want to feel bad for Hanako you should read this: [url]http://cplcrud.wordpress.com/4ls-era-fanworks-and-scraps/h29-%E2%80%93-future/[/url] Don't do it if you're an emotional wreck already it will make things worse I guess. Also this: [url]http://cplcrud.wordpress.com/4ls-era-fanworks-and-scraps/10-july-1990/[/url] Why did I read it? :smith:[/QUOTE] On the first one: Sucks that she had to see his parents die.

[QUOTE=ILY;34211633]Bad ending?[/QUOTE] Not really. One of it is cut stuff from the game and made me really sad. The other one is another "fan" fiction made by a writer of the game I think.

Yes. Same with music or texture-art or flavor-art, whatever creates an impression through the senses without having to be analyzed by a decrypter first.