[QUOTE=ILY;34377096][sp]There are ways to earn money besides being a burglar bro[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]Hanako disagrees[/sp]
[QUOTE=MountainWatcher;34377161][sp]Hanako disagrees[/sp][/QUOTE]
Now you jus, trollin'.
[highlight][b][h2]IT WAS RAPE.[/h2][/B][/Highlight]
I know it's not how you'd like it to be, but god dammit if you payed any attention during that scene you would understand. And yeah, she smiled afterwards, because it was over. She probably never had any sexual encounters before, so her perception of the indecent would be radically different from yours.
Now let's just fucking move on. Someone post misha.
[QUOTE=Neat!;34377290][highlight][b][h2]IT WAS RAPE.[/h2][/B][/Highlight]
I know it's not how you'd like it to be, but god dammit if you payed any attention during that scene you would understand. And yeah, she smiled afterwards, because it was over. She probably never had any sexual encounters before, so her perception of the indecent would be radically different from yours.
Now let's just fucking move on. Someone post misha.[/QUOTE]
Oh my god, no. Shut the hell up.
DID SOMEONE SAY POST MISHA
[url]http://shimmie.katawa-shoujo.com/post/view/2137[/url]
[editline]24th January 2012[/editline]
MORE YOU SAY?
[img]http://i.imgur.com/B2qwI.png[/img]
[img]http://dl.katawa-shoujo.com/pr/wallpapers/misha_wp_2560x1600.png[/img]
Here you go.
[QUOTE=MountainWatcher;34376990]
[sp]Say you're a burglar. You're poor and need to do it for food, even though it gnaws at your consciousness. You want the money, but isn't that why people rob? For money?[/sp][/QUOTE]
Stop comparing it to a crime. See the previous statement about consenting and being in control of the situation, it works with burglary too.
[QUOTE=MountainWatcher;34376990][sp]She wanted the consequences of the act, not the act itself.
.
People have sex for itself, the act itself.[/sp][/QUOTE]
People can have sex for any reason, it boils down to what they see fit. Having more complex motives behind sex than just pleasure doesn't automatically make it bad, as long as mutual consent is had. All actions are driven by motives and goals in some way.
[QUOTE=MountainWatcher;34376990][sp] If there was an option to evade the sex and still get the closeness, she would take it.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]This is pure speculation. Hanako's views on sex are never clarified in the game. With the way Hanako is portrayed as ultra-sensitive I can understand if people draw the conclusion that she's the kind of person who is not interested in sex and would prefer to avoid it. I'll give you it's a fair assumption to make, but we still don't know. All we know is she seemed to enjoy it, and thanked Hisao by bringing breakfast. That's not the sort of thing you'd do if you felt violated. As for the sex itself being somewhat sloppy and even painful on her end, well, that's what the first time is like for most girls. [/sp]
EDIT:
I'm getting kind of sick of this. We've established that while it was not rape, the scene was definitely indented to be perceived as questionable. I don't see what else there is to add.
im scared
[QUOTE=Tinter;34377365]
Here you go.[/QUOTE]
The next "that cat".
why did i click this page
the totally optional misha [sp]comforting[/sp] scene was rape because she didn't explicitly use a sexual term until the act was almost already in progress hurr durr serious issues about visual novels
Honestly, I'm not too interested in the non-Misha subtext here, I'm about to go to work until like midnight and all I can think about is how I wouldn't even bother going were it not for Katawa Shoujo brightening up my life. Change can be a good thing.
why did i think automerge would work
[editline]24th January 2012[/editline]
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME
all of you die
Ooohh Funion
you so crazy.
Lol, Funion.
Why is Facepunch being so slow tonight? My F5'ing is slowing to a crawl. Not another DDoS I hope?
[editline]24th January 2012[/editline]
Lol, Funion.
Why is Facepunch being so slow tonight? My F5'ing is slowing to a crawl. Not another DDoS I hope?
is it just me or is facepunch going slow as fuck right now
The forums are being slowly but surely updated and upgraded, the slowness and downtime has been happening on and off all day. Don't know why!
dammit crimson
Funion is gold
FUCKING AUTOMERGE
[editline]24th January 2012[/editline]
oh jesus really
lol so many broken automerges
[editline]24th January 2012[/editline]
goddamnit neat
Sorry for breaking your fabulous discussion slightly, but I feel like writing down my story with Katawa Shoujo and conclusions. I already said some of these things dozens, if not hundreds of pages ago so some of you might be somewhat familiar with some facts.
Of course there are most likely some spoilers.
So, first of all, I've only heard about KS from this thread. It drew my momentary attention 4 weeks ago when I saw quite many people reading this. 'A novel? I bet it's kind of boring', I thought. I forgot about it pretty quickly.
But after its release I've kept hearing more about this and when I saw this picture over here:
[t]http://i.imgur.com/Kgade.jpg[/t]
I suddenly became interested in this, partially because it's free. I've downloaded it few days later (I've been busy having fun with games I bought during Steam Holiday sale).
Like probably some people, I avoided playing it when there was someone in my room. Anime, nude cripples, etc. would make me look like a total weirdo in front of my family, so I was like 'no one must know my secret'. At first it was slightly problematic, but then I got used to it.
After like two hours of playing/reading it I realized this is very interesting. I was actually looking forward to see what happens next. Like most of people, I chose Emi's path, even though I was unaware of it. Still, I couldn't complain about this. I found the story really immersive, somewhat fun and engaging, particularly because I'm also a senior and will leave high school in few months and go to a college later this year. But the longer I played, some feelings began to sneak in. After finishing the route I thought 'k, that was a nice story, it was pretty touching actually'. It was late evening already so shortly after I started to preparing myself to go to bed. When I was brushing my teeth while thinking about the story, I felt something like warm chills on my body. I never experienced such thing so I didn't know what it meant, but it seemed to be a warning as a surge of feels was approaching. I've found that few minutes later, when I began to cry for a fairly long time as I've started hearing some beautiful tracks playing in my mind like 'Caged Heart' (didn't remember/haven't heard many more emotive tracks by then). This was the first time I was crying over a love story.
Since the next day I became slightly depressed, a bit more silent and started to think over things instead.
Then I've started playing and eventually finished Rin's route. By then I understood the whole arc/path/route thing. It was confusing, yet interesting. But didn't make me cry, even though I felt some things.
The next one was Shizune's. To be honest Student Council felt pretty boring, I didn't like Hideaki and (only partially) Akira for some reason, I even found Jigoro more interesting than them. I didn't find the route as emotional as others. On the other hand, I found it to be the longest of all, I wish the other ones were at least as long.
Upon finishing Shizune's route, I moved to Hanako's. I wanted to leave this and Lilly's arcs for the last. The story was really good, I definitely found it more touching than Rin's and Shizune's. Also I've started to like Akira since Hanako's birthday party. I'd probably cry after finishing it but I got to the bad ending first and it somewhat ruined the final effect.
Lastly, the time for Lilly's arc has come. I've been looking forward to play/read it with high expectations. I expected strong feels, and obviously, I got strong feels. It was definitely worth the wait and I accurately predicted the future when I was posting this yesterday:
[QUOTE=pawelte1;34361001]I've just finished Lilly's route.
...I already know I'm going to cry soon.[/QUOTE]
Few minutes later I was just sitting in front of my PC crying. I couldn't resist myself from doing this and I'm glad that nobody saw me. I also cried a bit after going to bed.
Now I'm just typing this while listening to the soundtrack I downloaded before. I didn't Launch Katawa Shoujo for the first time since about 2 weeks today. I have 97% of completion, yet I know I'll unlock the missing parts that during the holidays which begin next week. Now I need some rest.
Conclusions.
Route ranking:
1. Lilly
2. Emi/Hanako/Rin
5. Shizune
6. Kenji (sorry bro, you were cool only in Lilly's)
Character ranking:
1. Lilly/Emi? (I have to do Emi's route once again to give final verdict)
3. Hanako/Rin (I like Hanako more, but Rin deserves this rank)
5. Shizune
Out of all secondary characters, I think I liked Mutou, Akira and Meiko (Emi's mother) the most. Even though Kenji was sometimes really funny.
I won't do a song ranking because the entire soundtrack is great.
Concerning motivation, somewhere in the middle of Emi's route I've started working out by doing pull-ups, and while I couldn't do it even once at first, now I have no problems with doing five pull-ups in a row. I'm also considering running every morning after my exams are over.
Katawa Shoujo seriously made me think about my friends (yesterday I almost cried while talking to my mother about leaving my best friends in order to go to college), future and dreams. Now I know better that I need love in my life.
I think there are few other things I want to share (and probably at least one very important thing), but it's already late, I got hungry while typing all of this and I have to get up early in the morning tomorrow.
So that's it, I hope nobody was bored to death while reading all this stuff (I still assume that there won't be probably anyone who would bother himself reading this anyways).
[B]TL;DR[/B]
I gave Katawa Shoujo a try because of curiosity and because I wanted to feel something. Went just as expected and probably made a distinct impact on my life.
I'm off to bed now so don't expect hearing from me today.
[img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/ajyFf.jpg[/img_thumb]
And i keep on going.
[QUOTE=pawelte1;34377614]
[B]TL;DR[/B]
I gave Katawa Shoujo a try because of curiosity and because I wanted to feel something. Went just as expected and probably made a distinct impact on my life.
I'm off to bed now so don't expect hearing from me today.[/QUOTE]
[i]STOP BEING ME[/i]
Also, later dudes, off to work. Gotta earn that mad cash money so I can support my totally... real... waifu ;_;
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlqYUHGP2HY[/media]
[img]http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/230/440/a9d.jpg[/img]
[img]http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxxk4yXcPT1qhoa5qo1_500.png[/img]
also is it true that rin's mom took thalidomide?
[QUOTE=jordz;34377616][img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/ajyFf.jpg[/img_thumb]
And i keep on going.[/QUOTE]
Oh my god, winner!
[editline]24th January 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=jordz;34377616][img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/ajyFf.jpg[/img_thumb]
And i keep on going.[/QUOTE]
Oh my god, winner!
[QUOTE=pawelte1;34377614]Sorry for breaking your fabulous discussion slightly, but I feel like writing down my story with Katawa Shoujo and conclusions. I already said some of these things dozens, if not hundreds of pages ago so some of you might be somewhat familiar with some facts.
Of course there are most likely some spoilers.
So, first of all, I've only heard about KS from this thread. It drew my momentary attention 4 weeks ago when I saw quite many people reading this. 'A novel? I bet it's kind of boring', I thought. I forgot about it pretty quickly.
But after its release I've kept hearing more about this and when I saw this picture over here:
[t]http://i.imgur.com/Kgade.jpg[/t]
I suddenly became interested in this, partially because it's free. I've downloaded it few days later (I've been busy having fun with games I bought during Steam Holiday sale).
Like probably some people, I avoided playing it when there was someone in my room. Anime, nude cripples, etc. would make me look like a total weirdo in front of my family, so I was like 'no one must know my secret'. At first it was slightly problematic, but then I got used to it.
After like two hours of playing/reading it I realized this is very interesting. I was actually looking forward to see what happens next. Like most of people, I chose Emi's path, even though I was unaware of it. Still, I couldn't complain about this. I found the story really immersive, somewhat fun and engaging, particularly because I'm also a senior and will leave high school in few months and go to a college later this year. But the longer I played, some feelings began to sneak in. After finishing the route I thought 'k, that was a nice story, it was pretty touching actually'. It was late evening already so shortly after I started to preparing myself to go to bed. When I was brushing my teeth while thinking about the story, I felt something like warm chills on my body. I never experienced such thing so I didn't know what it meant, but it seemed to be a warning as a surge of feels was approaching. I've found that few minutes later, when I began to cry for a fairly long time as I've started hearing some beautiful tracks playing in my mind like 'Caged Heart' (didn't remember/haven't heard many more emotive tracks by then). This was the first time I was crying over a love story.
Since the next day I became slightly depressed, a bit more silent and started to think over things instead.
Then I've started playing and eventually finished Rin's route. By then I understood the whole arc/path/route thing. It was confusing, yet interesting. But didn't make me cry, even though I felt some things.
The next one was Shizune's. To be honest Student Council felt pretty boring, I didn't like Hideaki and (only partially) Akira for some reason, I even found Jigoro more interesting than them. I didn't find the route as emotional as others. On the other hand, I found it to be the longest of all, I wish the other ones were at least as long.
Upon finishing Shizune's route, I moved to Hanako's. I wanted to leave this and Lilly's arcs for the last. The story was really good, I definitely found it more touching than Rin's and Shizune's. Also I've started to like Akira since Hanako's birthday party. I'd probably cry after finishing it but I got to the bad ending first and it somewhat ruined the final effect.
Lastly, the time for Lilly's arc has come. I've been looking forward to play/read it with high expectations. I expected strong feels, and obviously, I got strong feels. It was definitely worth the wait and I accurately predicted the future when I was posting this yesterday:
Few minutes later I was just sitting in front of my PC crying. I couldn't resist myself from doing this and I'm glad that nobody saw me. I also cried a bit after going to bed.
Now I'm just typing this while listening to the soundtrack I downloaded before. I didn't Launch Katawa Shoujo for the first time since about 2 weeks today. I have 97% of completion, yet I know I'll unlock the missing parts that during the holidays which begin next week. Now I need some rest.
Conclusions.
Route ranking:
1. Lilly
2. Emi/Hanako/Rin
5. Shizune
6. Kenji (sorry bro, you were cool only in Lilly's)
Character ranking:
1. Lilly/Emi? (I have to do Emi's route once again to give final verdict)
3. Hanako/Rin (I like Hanako more, but Rin deserves this rank)
5. Shizune
Out of all secondary characters, I think I liked Mutou, Akira and Meiko (Emi's mother) the most. Even though Kenji was sometimes really funny.
I won't do a song ranking because the entire soundtrack is great.
Concerning motivation, somewhere in the middle of Emi's route I've started working out by doing pull-ups, and while I couldn't do it even once at first, now I have no problems with doing five pull-ups in a row. I'm also considering running every morning after my exams are over.
Katawa Shoujo seriously made me think about my friends (yesterday I almost cried while talking to my mother about leaving my best friends in order to go to college), future and dreams. Now I know better that I need love in my life.
I think there are few other things I want to share (and probably at least one very important thing), but it's already late, I got hungry while typing all of this and I have to get up early in the morning tomorrow.
So that's it, I hope nobody was bored to death while reading all this stuff (I still assume that there won't be probably anyone who would bother himself reading this anyways).
[B]TL;DR[/B]
I gave Katawa Shoujo a try because of curiosity and because I wanted to feel something. Went just as expected and probably made a distinct impact on my life.
I'm off to bed now so don't expect hearing from me today.[/QUOTE]
uh
pretty much
I don't think it's warranted calling this out as the ultimate weirdness even though it seems odd for someone to have a game affect them that much. Think of it more as little game-induced emotions setting off a bigger penned-up landslide of thoughts.
Huh, I didn't cry at all yet and I finished 3/5 arcs. Then again I've not cried at any media for a long time. I do feel the feels, but I get chills rather than tears.
I think the last game that I felt really emotional in was at the end of Human Revolution. Dat music bro.
Also I felt godawful in that scene where [sp]Rin asks you to jerk her off. I can't imagine how low someone must feel in order to ask someone else to "finish it off" for them, and not in a passionate way. It must be humiliating.[/sp]
[QUOTE=pawelte1;34377614]
[t]http://i.imgur.com/Kgade.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
Holy shit I've seen like 5 of those posts on /v/
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