Half Life 2 Episode 3 Discussion - Games

[QUOTE=.FLAP.JACK.DAN.;32401758]The fuck is Alderaan?[/QUOTE] Out Now. Go wait in the car

[QUOTE=Canned Induvidual;32398335]Portal 2 takes place 200 years after the events of Half Life 2. This was found out during the first portal 2 arg[/QUOTE] And it was said several times by Valve that it was only a few decades. And Several times it was a few thousand years. [QUOTE=Butthurter;32405198]by putting in cheerful sentient turrets that forgive you for disabling them? aperture science is canon to the hl series but not in a matter of doing complete crossovers you might as well make cave johnson an npc in ep3 and his attacks are combustible lemons because lol its canon! XD[/QUOTE] No that is not canon.

If anything, I'd imagine there would maybe be a reference to Portal/Portal 2, but beyond that probably nothing.

[QUOTE=Marcolade;32406610]If anything, I'd imagine there would maybe be a reference to Portal/Portal 2, but beyond that probably nothing.[/QUOTE] Consdering there is going to be the Borealis, there will be more then just references.

[QUOTE=nightlord;32406620]Consdering there is going to be the Borealis, there will be more then just references.[/QUOTE] The HL2 Saga has always had a serious side to it. Talking turrets do not reflect that.

[QUOTE=HatredViral;32406706]The HL2 Saga has always had a serious side to it. Talking turrets do not reflect that.[/QUOTE] Thinking about it...Lamarr and the microwave incident is the only real attempts at a funny side. I might be mistaken.

[QUOTE=HatredViral;32406706]The HL2 Saga has always had a serious side to it. Talking turrets do not reflect that.[/QUOTE] There were probably variations of the turrets. The ones in Portal 2 are just for testing and for sale.

Look, at one point in an interview they said they keep going back and forth with it. Either way it's not important to them, because they do not want HL and Portal to cross over in a huge way. Borealis will probably have hints of Aperture Science stuff, but probably no GLaDOS, and no turrets. [editline]21st September 2011[/editline] And seeing as in a piece of concept art there's huge chunks of Combine technology attached to the ship now, GLaDOS would have been disabled and dismantled first thing, same with the turrets.

[QUOTE=Jetamo;32406928]Look, at one point in an interview they said they keep going back and forth with it. Either way it's not important to them, because they do not want HL and Portal to cross over in a huge way. Borealis will probably have hints of Aperture Science stuff, but probably no GLaDOS, and no turrets. [editline]21st September 2011[/editline] And seeing as in a piece of concept art there's huge chunks of Combine technology attached to the ship now, GLaDOS would have been disabled and dismantled first thing, same with the turrets.[/QUOTE] Hints of Aperture science stuff...you do realise it's an Aperture Science ship, right? There would be more than just hints.

[QUOTE=nightlord;32406837]There were probably variations of the turrets. The ones in Portal 2 are just for testing and for sale.[/QUOTE] You do realise that the turrets were never commercially sold right or are you so blind as to think the United States would actually allow the sale of them? I do hope you've noticed the similarities between Combine and Aperture technology at the very least.

[QUOTE=Jetamo;32406928]Look, at one point in an interview they said they keep going back and forth with it. Either way it's not important to them, because they do not want HL and Portal to cross over in a huge way. Borealis will probably have hints of Aperture Science stuff, but probably no GLaDOS, and no turrets. [editline]21st September 2011[/editline] And seeing as in a piece of concept art there's huge chunks of Combine technology attached to the ship now, GLaDOS would have been disabled and dismantled first thing, same with the turrets.[/QUOTE] maybe some dark secrets of aperture science :>?

[QUOTE=HatredViral;32407093]You do realise that the turrets were never commercially sold right or are you so blind as to think the United States would actually allow the sale of them? I do hope you've noticed the similarities between Combine and Aperture technology at the very least.[/QUOTE] Explain this then: [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/VfoT5.jpg[/IMG] And there are no similiarities between Combine and Aperture technology.

[QUOTE=nightlord;32407158]Explain this then: [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/VfoT5.jpg[/IMG] And there are no similiarities between Combine and Aperture technology.[/QUOTE] Didn't the machines just go in a big loop? It would assemble the turrets and package them away, only for them to be thrown to another machine that unpackages them and disassembles them.

[QUOTE=Nidhogg;32407248]Didn't the machines just go in a big loop? It would assemble the turrets and package them away, only for them to be thrown to another machine that unpackages them and disassembles them.[/QUOTE] I don't remember that, i don't think they were. The wiki says: [quote]During Portal 2's chapter The Escape Chell passes through the production line for the commercial version of the Aperture Science Sentry Turret. The developer commentary states that originally, they would have had the Sentry Turret built and boxed, then passed into a machine directly below. This machine would unbox and disassemble it, then recycling the parts, meaning that the Sentry Turrets are never actually shipped. They also would have included a massive pile of all the unrecycled packaging material, giving Aperture the most inefficient recycling system possible.[/quote]

You know, they should go ahead and put Cave Johnson on the boat, but have him talk crazy. Not the soft "Hi, I'm Cave Johnson, I own the place." I'm talking "BLASFADSDASDFWFASALEMONSMELONSI'MNOTINSANE", As he hurls equipment at Gordon. I'm saying pure INSANITY, not the brink of it. Maybe to the point were it is disturbing. And have him take breaths, maybe where he'll express his inner depression(and then quickly go mad again). That sounds like half life, Old, depressed, crazy, men flinging stuff at you, while babbling pure insanity. It could probably work, probably.

[QUOTE=Butthurter;32408162]good job, you just picked a wiki quote that says exactly what he did in an attempt to disprove it[/QUOTE] Try actually reading it. [quote]The developer commentary states that originally, they would have had the Sentry Turret built and boxed, then passed into a machine directly below. [/quote] This means, it is not ingame.

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[QUOTE=Butthurter;32408203]yeah and where do you supposed glados sends it then? up her ass which is the exact opposite end of consumer-land?[/QUOTE] To the warehouses they have. Obviously they aren't selling them anymore. I see you are are incapable of reading the part that says the disassembly is not ingame.

[QUOTE=Butthurter;32408217]implying that they ever managed to sell most of it[/QUOTE] They did sell them. There is no evidance they didn't. Aperture was pretty crazy, of course they would try to sell a highly dangerous weapon.

[QUOTE=nightlord;32408233]They did sell them. There is no evidance they didn't. Aperture was pretty crazy, of course they would try to sell a highly dangerous weapon.[/QUOTE] Awful argument. You don't have any evidence they sold them either. So where does that put your original statement?

[QUOTE=nightlord;32408233]They did sell them. There is no evidance they didn't. Aperture was pretty crazy, of course they would try to sell a highly dangerous weapon.[/QUOTE] Aperture could sure as hell try to sell it, but they wouldn't have sold any because US Law would not have permitted it. Not to mention you quoted "This machine would unbox and disassemble it, then recycling the parts, meaning that the Sentry Turrets are never actually shipped." There are lots of similarities between Aperture and the Combine. For example: Hard Light Bridges seen in Portal 2 may in fact be the same technology as the Forcefield Bridges in Episode 1 in the Citadel. High-Energy Pellets are used by both Aperture and the Combine. Both parties also have pellet receivers. The piston used in the Sentry Turret to fire out rounds is like that of the one on the Combine Overwatch Rifle.

[QUOTE=Edthefirst;32408304]Awful argument. You don't have any evidence they sold them either. So where does that put your original statement?[/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i-nMWgBUp0&hd=1[/media] While the ingame footage and Cave johnson is non-canon, there rest of the information is canon. Several of the things in there are also from the ARG. Turret options: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmnC2hZ_mCI&feature=BFa&list=PL3291FAF5CD3C7F5C&lf=results_video[/media] And this: [img]http://i.imgur.com/VfoT5.jpg[/img] Why would they package them in boxes like that with advertising on if they weren't trying to sell them? And why would there be a large variety of colours if they are only for Aperture Science? [QUOTE=HatredViral;32408346]Not to mention you quoted "This machine would unbox and disassemble it, then recycling the parts, meaning that the Sentry Turrets are never actually shipped." [/QUOTE] You missed that part that said it is not ingame, therefore non-canon...

[QUOTE=nightlord;32408372]You missed that part that said it is not ingame, therefore non-canon...[/QUOTE] Just because it isn't in game doesn't mean "non-canon" That's like saying that all the Portal 2 retcons aren't canon. Not to mention you're associating media designed to entice players to the game as being canon.

[IMG]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10447261/thread_audience.png[/IMG] My reaction to this thread. I love how NightLord and Butthurter keep rating each other boxes.

[QUOTE=Butthurter;32408394]youre completely missing the point between [b]reality[/b] and aperture, good job you know you can make ads for stuff that isnt ready for shipment yet[/QUOTE] The turret options says: [quote]Aperture science dba Aperture Laboratories sales division for the continued sell through of quality items, and the increase in margins across the entire range of Aperture Product.[/quote]

[QUOTE=nightlord;32408458]The turret options says:[/QUOTE] If Aperture had managed to sell products, don't you think they would've not gone bankrupt?

[QUOTE=HatredViral;32408487]If Aperture had managed to sell products, don't you think they would've not gone bankrupt?[/QUOTE] I don't think many people would buy their products, so no, them selling stuff wouldn't have stopped it. Grants would have been their main source of income but they didn't get any. Being bankrupt didn't stop them doing things anyway.

[QUOTE=nightlord;32406981]Hints of Aperture science stuff...you do realise it's an Aperture Science ship, right? There would be more than just hints.[/QUOTE] I mean it will probably have hints of Portal 2 style aperture science, but it won't be full out wacky aperture. :/

[QUOTE=Jetamo;32408610]I mean it will probably have hints of Portal 2 style aperture science, but it won't be full out wacky aperture. :/[/QUOTE] It will most likely be 70's style Aperture. [QUOTE=HatredViral;32408423]Just because it isn't in game doesn't mean "non-canon" That's like saying that all the Portal 2 retcons aren't canon. Not to mention you're associating media designed to entice players to the game as being canon.[/QUOTE] By not in game i meant it was cut from the game. Cut content is non-canon.

[QUOTE=Jetamo;32408610]I mean it will probably have hints of Portal 2 style aperture science, but it won't be full out wacky aperture. :/[/QUOTE] Well I don't really want to play "Portal" when I'm playing Episode 3 to be honest, so just little references will be perfect.