[QUOTE=BenJammin';29560050]All these games look extremely boring to me.[/QUOTE]
You don't know if you'll like it until you try it...
[QUOTE=Portalist;29560385]What should I try identify with money. Seems like books are the only ones worth identifying.[/QUOTE]
If you identify any scrolls, spellbooks, rods potions they'll be recognised the next time you pick one of them up. You have to identify them to check if they're blessed or cursed though, and equipment is usually identified.
You can read spellbooks scrolls, and zap rods to identify them as well but I prefer identifying them from the identifier.
I really want to play Elona but I don't know what the fuck to do most of the time and it's confusing. maybe if I had more of an attention span for roguelikes.
[QUOTE=Soviet Russia;29563939]I really want to play Elona but I don't know what the fuck to do most of the time and it's confusing. maybe if I had more of an attention span for roguelikes.[/QUOTE]
Play with the IRC open. The people there are usually willing to answer your questions.
IRC location can be found at elona wiki, which helps too.
[QUOTE=Soviet Russia;29563939]I really want to play Elona but I don't know what the fuck to do most of the time and it's confusing. maybe if I had more of an attention span for roguelikes.[/QUOTE]
I think Elona is one of the most involving roguelikes since there's more to it than "fight through the dungeon and claim the amulet of Yendor." Despite the fact that it's graphical, I don't really feel that it's a good place to start.
I actually think that Elona is a very good beginner's RL.
As pointed out somewhere up here, the only keys you need are the X, C and Z. As opposed to certain games where I pretty much couldn't play because I had a netbook without a keypad.
[QUOTE=kayOkay;29577353]I actually think that Elona is a very good beginner's RL.
As pointed out somewhere up here, the only keys you need are the X, C and Z. As opposed to certain games where I pretty much couldn't play because I had a netbook without a keypad.[/QUOTE]
Well, maybe it's easier to control, but conceptually I think it's more difficult to grasp. You're basically dropped into the world with no immediately apparent direction, whereas in most other roguelikes it's a constant fight downwards into a dungeon.
[QUOTE=postmanX3;29579741]Well, maybe it's easier to control, but conceptually I think it's more difficult to grasp. You're basically dropped into the world with no immediately apparent direction, whereas in most other roguelikes it's a constant fight downwards into a dungeon.[/QUOTE]
Takes a while to get into, once you find a class that's good and fits you then you can do far more. Also playing a lot or going on the wiki and digging around for an item you really want and then work towards that.
[editline]2nd May 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Mikkelmann;29543172]You might want to add [url]http://people.umass.edu/jvight/3059/[/url] . It's not very well known, but it's pretty interesting anywho.[/QUOTE]
This looks like great fun but I just can't figure out how to pull up the help it tells you to read... Herp just realized it's a PDF
Wow, 3069 has a 3D version, cool.
I played the 3D version for, like, 5 minutes. Then I grew a cancerous tumor in my eyes and decided to stop.
I think it might have been because of my laptop, though.
So what you're saying is the 3D one is bad and should never be played?
When I played it I played the 3d version and it's definitely nothing special though I didn't like the game much either, why should I bother building? Why should I bother finding doors to places when I can destroy walls every time. Also you can get really tough by buying health regen items.
As nobody else has.
[release]
[B]Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup[/B]
[img_thumb]http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/High-res-layout.png[/img_thumb]
One of the oldest Roguelikes still in active development, and still one of the most popular. Packed with content and though as nails, comes in Tiles and ASCII flavors.
[B][URL="http://%3Chttp://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/%3E"]Download[/URL][/B]
[B][URL="http://%3Chttp://www.facepunch.com/threads/1085240-Crawl-0.8-The-part-where-he-kills-you-is-every-part%3E"]Facepunch Thread[/URL][/B][/release]
Added these;
[release]
[b]3059[/b]
[img_thumb]http://people.umass.edu/jvight/3059/3059ss1.gif[/img_thumb]
In the year 3059, the earth has been overpopulated for ages. For the past 200 years, mankind has been seeking out new planets to colonize. You have every chance to be anything you want to be. Offers complete freedom, roam any direction any time endlessly, there will always be something to do, get or see. Has many diverse skills.
[b][url=http://people.umass.edu/jvight/3059/download.html]Download[/url][/b]
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[release]
[b]Prospector[/b]
[img_thumb]http://i56.tinypic.com/29yfp12.jpg[/img_thumb]
A space exploration game where you get paid for exploring planets, discovering new life forms, finding new materials and mining. Still in beta, but it's pretty fun.
[b][url=http://code.google.com/p/rlprospector/]Download[/url][/b]
[b][url=http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=34943.0]Bay 12 Thread[/url][/b]
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[QUOTE=TamTamJam;29602123]Added these;[/QUOTE]
Add Shiren damn it.
[release][b]Shiren the Wanderer[/b]
[img_thumb]http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/bin/uCVuhkdbtybmKk8YYbUkF363I5Ua5Ffw/WBDvdH5Lr_m_5cZHG8LOQGAUeAjhU-Hy.jpg[/img_thumb]
A console roguelike released for the SNES in Japan and then re-released for the DS in all regions. A Nethack-inspired roguelike, with an emphasis on creative combat -- there are a lot of items with interesting abilities, such as the switching staff, a staff that switches your position with its target. Arguably a bit simpler than PC roguelikes, but incredibly well balanced and designed.[/release]
I even edited it to make it (a little) less biased and uninformative.
Added.
[QUOTE=postmanX3;29579741]Well, maybe it's easier to control, but conceptually I think it's more difficult to grasp. You're basically dropped into the world with no immediately apparent direction, whereas in most other roguelikes it's a constant fight downwards into a dungeon.[/QUOTE]
I think, like you mentioned earlier, Nethack should be the starting point. It's conceptually one of the easiest ones to play and very solid for beginners.
I'd even say IVAN would be good since it's inherently graphical and the controls are easy, but the game actively tries to kill you so I'd say no. It's also a lot about common sense; having a backpack of gunpowder and mines in your inventory are not things to wield while fighting fire imps. I say this out of experience :v:
[QUOTE=Edthefirst;29617763]I'd even say IVAN would be good since it's inherently graphical and the controls are easy, but the game actively tries to kill you so I'd say no. It's also a lot about common sense; having a backpack of gunpowder and mines in your inventory are not things to wield while fighting fire imps. I say this out of experience :v:[/QUOTE]
I've barely played any IVAN, but that warning makes me want to play it.
[QUOTE=Edthefirst;29617763]I'd even say IVAN would be good since it's inherently graphical and the controls are easy, but the game actively tries to kill you so I'd say no. It's also a lot about common sense; having a backpack of gunpowder and mines in your inventory are not things to wield while fighting fire imps. I say this out of experience :v:[/QUOTE]
FYI I believe it's possible to be instakilled in IVAN with no warning whatsoever, I seem to remember taking two steps into the first dungeon and having the ceiling collapse on me one time.
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IVAN: Beat your enemies to death with your own severed arm.
[QUOTE=Edthefirst;29619322]Oh it's certainly hilariously frustrating. To be walking in a gigantic room filled with loot and suddenly get your foot stuck in a bear trap. Try to free yourself and the trap doesn't budge. Suddenly, you hear a blood curdling yell and a kamikaze dwarf runs into you and explodes. Miraculously you survive with all your limbs blown off. Quickly you pray to a random god but all they do is fill your stomach with food. Then three more dwarves simultaneously run into you. At least you died on a full stomach.
True story.
Another great story of mine is when I decided to use my lightning wand to zap lightning into a room filled with enemies. The lightning shot through the first enemy, bounced off the wall behind him, bounced off of a second wall, bounced off of a [i]third[/i] wall, and then finally landed on the tile next to me. My character hadn't detected the trap that lay there when I walked by.
It was a mine. You can imagine what happened next.
[editline]4th May 2011[/editline]
Most of my deaths are centered around explosives as you can tell. I've got a serious problem with hoarding mines and gunpowder backpacks thinking they may be useful in sticky situations. It causes a majority of my deaths.[/QUOTE]
Oh god I must play this game.
I was just on the second level of a new game, and randomly a wand exploded right in front of me, taking out a 9x9 tile area and setting me and all my things on fire.
[editline]4th May 2011[/editline]
I survived until this happened a few turns later;
[quote]Suddenly an octiron golem materializes![/quote]
I can't believe no one suggested Liberal Crime Squad
[release][B]Liberal Crime Squad[/B]
[img_thumb]http://sourceforge.net/dbimage.php?id=129267[/img_thumb]
Created by the makers of Dwarf Fortress, form a squad of Liberals and go and fight EVILLLLLLL!!
[URL="http://sourceforge.net/projects/lcsgame/"]Download or be Conservative[/URL]
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Oh yeah, that game's fun.
[editline]4th May 2011[/editline]
[quote]You finally calm down.
A magical explosion is triggered!
You are hit by the explosion!
You panic!
[/quote]
Does anyone know that game where you can play it co-op and one person is a mage and the other is a warrior?
[QUOTE=TamTamJam;29620270]IVAN: Beat your enemies to death with your own severed arm.[/QUOTE]
IVAN: It's a sunny day then suddenly golems.
[code]http://gyazo.com/7dc78f8c783c23fea10a47710e695355.png
delectable avian specimen: ..wat
Rahkshi Lord: it was a donkey
Rahkshi Lord: out of contex it's weird right
delectable avian specimen: yes
Rahkshi Lord: pray to god
Rahkshi Lord: get hooker
Rahkshi Lord: http://gyazo.com/ff27e8190b053a246b6a542e6f10feea.png
Rahkshi Lord: i love this game already
delectable avian specimen: amazing
Rahkshi Lord: and now I was turned into amushroom
Rahkshi Lord: http://gyazo.com/b1d1f304dba3ed55d4d274f66960ee28.png
Rahkshi Lord: and then this
delectable avian specimen: amazing
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Relevant to IVAN
[QUOTE=Aredbomb;29618971]FYI I believe it's possible to be instakilled in IVAN with no warning whatsoever, I seem to remember taking two steps into the first dungeon and having the ceiling collapse on me one time.[/QUOTE]
Once I started a new game, took 3 steps forward, slipped on a banana peel and impaled myself on my own sword.
Started playing, found a lantern straight off. Wielded it until my lantern skill was like 6 and my unnamed or something skill was 3 then I got my left leg broken off and found a dagger. Later I drank from a fountain, lost my left arm so now I only have my right appendages left...
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