[QUOTE=Dorak;33765181]hurr durr I don't know what I'm talking about[/QUOTE]The reason nVidia's SSAO runs faster is because it's less accurate and doesn't do indirect illumination. That's a pretty big difference, because indirect illumination is a gigantic performance hog, and the more accurate an SSAO algorithm is the more power it takes. And as ENBseries isn't fully integrated into the game engine, it lacks the sorta things that could help it run much faster.
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oh wait, you guys don't want to see ugly screenshots of skyrim
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bonus:
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Looks a lot blurrier once posted :/
[QUOTE=roxahris;33783232]The reason nVidia's SSAO runs faster is because it's less accurate and doesn't do indirect illumination. That's a pretty big difference, because indirect illumination is a gigantic performance hog, and the more accurate an SSAO algorithm is the more power it takes. And as ENBseries isn't fully integrated into the game engine, it lacks the sorta things that could help it run much faster.[/QUOTE]
SSAO is by definition a very rough approximation of certain indirect illumination effects. Actually simulating multiple bounce lighting would mean rewriting almost the entire renderer.
[QUOTE=roxahris;33783232]The reason nVidia's SSAO runs faster is because it's less accurate and doesn't do indirect illumination. That's a pretty big difference, because indirect illumination is a gigantic performance hog, and the more accurate an SSAO algorithm is the more power it takes. And as ENBseries isn't fully integrated into the game engine, it lacks the sorta things that could help it run much faster.
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afaik no one actually knows the details of NVIDIA's SSAO method, and if it actually didn't support what you just said it wouldn't even be SSAO
source please
Me and my friend Ellis still have fond memories of the last time we played one of our favourite missions in Arma 2.
[img]http://puu.sh/aWNX[/img]
After reading about SMX animations we decided to try all our missions again with the mod.
Then this happened.
[img]http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/651000377801608121/D21BD7B4469161537D6B683D0DBD1E06BBFDEFF8/[/img]
[img]http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/651000377801606936/CF043FE78A34198D626F9E962A804AFD30ED91A1/[/img]
Suddenly Ellis "accidently" killed the pilot with a lucky random bullet.
[img]http://puu.sh/aWOT[/img]
Later we mucked around in the armoury.
[img]http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/651000377801834003/A10DC9FB763606609BD7DEA270A8B38BE2E468C5/[/img]
[QUOTE]The reason nVidia's SSAO runs faster is because it's less accurate and doesn't do indirect illumination. That's a pretty big difference, because indirect illumination is a gigantic performance hog, and the more accurate an SSAO algorithm is the more power it takes. And as ENBseries isn't fully integrated into the game engine, it lacks the sorta things that could help it run much faster. [/QUOTE]
And ?
Like i care about the technical aspect and the details between SSAO's. The only thing i see is the picture below your shit, and if it's the ENB SSAO, which i assume it is, it looks fucking garbage.
[QUOTE=Odellus;33783762]afaik no one actually knows the details of NVIDIA's SSAO method, and if it actually didn't support what you just said it wouldn't even be SSAO
source please[/QUOTE]
It's SSAO, SSIL, and it takes Hemi Skylighting into account, which takes into account ambience from the hemi lighting and determines the visibility of the SSAO. See here for a comparison.
[url]http://enbdev.com/ss_gta4tech_en.htm[/url]
[QUOTE=Yadda;33784039]It's SSAO, SSIL, and it takes Hemi Skylighting into account, which takes into account ambience from the hemi lighting and determines the visibility of the SSAO. See here for a comparison.
[url]http://enbdev.com/ss_gta4tech_en.htm[/url][/QUOTE]
the way you respond makes me think you know a lot less than you think you do
you didn't answer my question, either
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Planes? Check.
Racing? Check.
Powerups? Check.
Greatest game ever.
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Shogun 2 on hard is fucking annoying. Each army has a fullstack and they all mob you at once.
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Planes? Check.
Racing? Check.
Powerups? Check.
Greatest game ever.[/QUOTE]
Whats the game?
[QUOTE=roxahris;33783232]
bonus:
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Is that Zone of the motherfucking Enders?
[QUOTE=hoodoo456;33785007]Whats the game?[/QUOTE]
Skydrift.
[QUOTE=roxahris;33783232]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/wDeVG.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
looks familiar... what game?
is that Red Faction 2?
Zone of Enders
[QUOTE=Dorak;33783960]And ?
Like i care about the technical aspect and the details between SSAO's. The only thing i see is the picture below your shit, and if it's the ENB SSAO, which i assume it is, it looks fucking garbage.[/QUOTE]
you are execrable
[QUOTE=Marbalo;33786262]i had to google what execrable meant and then google the definitions[/QUOTE]
it's my favourite word, alongside 'nomenclature'
[QUOTE=Odellus;33784300]the way you respond makes me think you know a lot less than you think you do
you didn't answer my question, either[/QUOTE]
I accidentally rushed and quoted the wrong post, I originally meant to quote roxahris, but since you asked.
[url]http.developer.nvidia.com/GPUGems2/gpugems2_chapter14.html[/url]
This is a rough approximation of how you would expect nvidia to calculate ssao. It's essentially a mask that is calculated by proximity between concave surfaces. With regards to roxa's post because it only darkens concave areas, it does not take the lighting values into account. With ENB the shader recalculates the lighting (you can configure the falloff and value in the .ini file), and it uses that to approximate the values for illuminating the screen space effect. Obviously there's no way of finding out exactly how it's being done because boris did not make it open source, but that's the best we have to go on anyway.
Anyway I've been tweaking for another version of my config, I fixed the oversaturated blue tones in the sky and fog, and the yellows have a more realistic value. Basically everything looks a lot better. I'll post screenshots when I'm finished with it.
[QUOTE=69105;33787911]haha what game is that[/QUOTE]
Looks like FUEL maybe
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I love killing Stormcloaks.
I killed around 30 stormcloaks during that fort attack.
[QUOTE=69105;33787911]haha what game is that[/QUOTE]
Off road Drive I think
[QUOTE=roxahris;33783232]
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All you had to do was follow the damn train, Alice!
Bet you cant guess what game this is
experimenting with SSAO and other such fancy ventures
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Facepunch, I think I broke history
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