Warhammer 40K Megathread V2: Matt Ward for Spiritual Liege 2012
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[QUOTE=nightlord;34164344]It has an effect on it. Would something like Gears of War be the same if it was bright and colourful?[/QUOTE]
Yes and Epic knew that so they busted out the 256 colour palette for 3.
[QUOTE=nightlord;34159007]It is unlikely to be Grimdark as it should be because of the younger people who enjoy W40K. They ruin it for the rest of us really.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that's pretty true.
[QUOTE=aliendrone123;34164734]Yeah, that's pretty true.[/QUOTE]
I started W40K when i was 10, back in 3rd edition. The majority of W40K content is not suitable for the younger players but as DMO is a game, to get as many players as possible it will have to be for them.
[QUOTE=RayvenQ;34160765]Actually, belief and action have very much power in 40K, though that usually transfers to warp beings, its unknown if it applies to the Emperor.[/QUOTE]
The power of the emperor has been known to correlate with the amount of people who believe in him, according to what I've read. At one point he has the power to tear entire armies apart with his mere mind, at others he can barely kill a single squad (using the same power, mind you).
He seemed weakest when Horus betrayed him and the mass uprising occurred, which would explain how Horus could even defeat him.
[QUOTE=27X;34162083]The Necrons were essentially reverted to an earlier version with some twilight touchy feely goodness, that's pretty much the [i]definition[/i] of retcon, without positive or negative connotations.
To the former, it's all [i]opinion[/i], not fact anyway, and it wouldn't have even been an issue except for how loud and long the protest for change was held up as a tentpole; couple that with OMG THE BOLTGUN WHAT HAVE THEY DONE THIS ENTIRE GAME IS THE END OF WARHAMMER; (really? the whole game and franchise is ruined because the devs made the BP act like a auto-stubber?) it's exacerbated by the fact the earlier iteration of the game was actually more genre accurate: it was darker, featured more races, and actually featured the exterminatus mechanics in sp mode, which is hell of a lot more fluff accurate than captain bad hair goes off on his own and is blue smurf immune to all Chows influence. If you look at Retribution and SM, the stories are frankly a little too similar for a game four years in development.
And yeah, I find it funny that someone who bandwagons a race make-over gets fetishist butthurt at a change to [b]one[/b] weapon amongst the vast and unyielding plethora of weapons available to it a [i]gameplay[/i] parameter, especially when said person is saying the all [b]gameplay[/b] changes to 6e are just lurvely without having actually being able test on-hand whether true or not, and completely ignoring the fact that Space Marine weapons aren't even remotely TT or fluff accurate to begin with as it is, except for the chainsword and thunder hammer/maul.
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Orks pretty much refute that. Their actions should make Khorne the most powerful by far; he isn't, and their stuff works cause they believe it does.[/QUOTE]
Khorne is considered to be the most powerful Chaos God besides Tzeetch, what are you on about?
Even if he wasn't, Orks don't refute it really, for Khorne is powered by hatred and the urge to kill (the Blood God) and Orks just like fighting and breaking shit for no apparent reason. They don't hate, hell they usually have a good time.
[QUOTE=Nikota;34162456]The orks sounded like shit and had no mention of fucking dakka.
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Like seriously. It's not even hard to come up with dialog for orks.[/QUOTE]
I've heard them say "Dakka" in Exterminatus while I'm mowing them down with my Heavy Bolter.
"Too much dakka!"
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[QUOTE=Skeeter;34163678]why do they think it is cowardice, is it like world war one mentality? Raven Guard has a pretty cool color like night black, i bought colours today so painting today just letting the spraying dry and pictures will come later. i dont think i will make camoflage since it seems hard but i will make a coloring that i think you guys will look cool.[/QUOTE]
From what I've heard, they don't use camouflage because they WANT to be seen, especially if they're sent to squash rebellions. Just SEEING the bright colors of Spess Mehreen armor is often enough for rebel commanders to second-guess their motives.
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[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;34165302]The power of the emperor has been known to correlate with the amount of people who believe in him, according to what I've read. At one point he has the power to tear entire armies apart with his mere mind, at others he can barely kill a single squad (using the same power, mind you).
He seemed weakest when Horus betrayed him and the mass uprising occurred, which would explain how Horus could even defeat him.
Khorne is considered to be the most powerful Chaos God besides Tzeetch, what are you on about?
Even if he wasn't, Orks don't refute it really, for Khorne is powered by hatred and the urge to kill (the Blood God) and Orks just like fighting and breaking shit for no apparent reason. They don't hate, hell they usually have a good time.[/QUOTE]
Horus only wounded the Emperor as he did because the Emperor didn't want to kill Horus, he thought there was still hope for him until Horus killed that Custodes. Then the Emperor was like "Aw HELL NAW" and destroyed Horus' mind.
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"Too much dakka!"
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Well, that's clear proof that they weren't written very well.
[QUOTE=Etcetera;34165661]Well, that's clear proof that they weren't written very well.[/QUOTE]
Even Orks have morale, I've noticed they only tend to say that when you've whittled them down a bunch.
And to a lowly Slugga Boy who doesn't even have a pistol, a Heavy Bolter would be "too much dakka" to go up against with any modicum of success.
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Horus only wounded the Emperor as he did because the Emperor didn't want to kill Horus, he thought there was still hope for him until Horus killed that Custodes. Then the Emperor was like "Aw HELL NAW" and destroyed Horus' mind.[/QUOTE]
It was so much better when it was a mere guardsman instead of an Custodes :smith:
[QUOTE=Scar;34166462]It was so much better when it was a mere guardsman instead of an Custodes :smith:[/QUOTE]
Ollanius Pius, never forget.
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[QUOTE=Zero-Point;34165503]I've heard them say "Dakka" in Exterminatus while I'm mowing them down with my Heavy Bolter.
"Too much dakka!"
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From what I've heard, they don't use camouflage because they WANT to be seen, especially if they're sent to squash rebellions. Just SEEING the bright colors of Spess Mehreen armor is often enough for rebel commanders to second-guess their motives.
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Horus only wounded the Emperor as he did because the Emperor didn't want to kill Horus, he thought there was still hope for him until Horus killed that Custodes. Then the Emperor was like "Aw HELL NAW" and destroyed Horus' mind.[/QUOTE]
that makes sense because if i were rebel leader and saw army of super elite soldiers attacking i would give up to save myself
i have painted three of the terminators now two regular terminators and one that is the leader but not hero leader only leader like sergeant of them
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how do i make pictures smaller so that they dont strech and make easier reading for you guys?
[QUOTE=Skeeter;34167317]that makes sense because if i were rebel leader and saw army of super elite soldiers attacking i would give up to save myself
i have painted three of the terminators now two regular terminators and one that is the leader but not hero leader only leader like sergeant of them
how do i make pictures smaller so that they dont strech and make easier reading for you guys?[/QUOTE]
Your paint looks a bit too thick. The Thunderhammers look alright, but the detail on the marines themselves looks distorted. Like I said before, thin your paints.
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[url]http://1d4chan.org/wiki/THIN_YOUR_PAINTS[/url][/QUOTE]
I thin my paints so much that its like water color and i painted eight layers of paint and then i even sprayed the models white before starting painting, maybe i should do that other thing washing i think its called when you take black and make it like water color and paint over?
I don't thin my paints but my models don't even come out like that.
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oh god i can't breathe
bah can't link from that site but jesus christ i thought I was a bad painter but that 1d4chan thin your paints guy...wow...
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;34167480]I don't thin my paints but my models don't even come out like that.
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Truth be told, I don't actually thin my paints either.
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;34167480]I don't thin my paints but my models don't even come out like that.
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how did you make it like that the color is so nice like how many layers of that yellow did you use?
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;34167480]I don't thin my paints but my models don't even come out like that.
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If you spread the paint really carefully you dont need to thin it. But leaving it like that may give the model a rough texture.
edit: Speaking of terminators, I have a slightly old picture of the first terminator I painted. I didn't post it, but I could. Its paint is a bit touched up sense I took it. (as in a blotch removed and lightning claws highlighted better.) I could post it if anyone cares.
Like, literally. I buy the paints from Game Workshop (call me a ass, but I'm lazy enough to pay their inflated prices) and once I get them, I shake them up, open them and proceed to paint. I just use small brushes and don't apply a base coat. So I paint right onto the plastic, it takes two or three layers before it looks like that, plus touch up work and I do that for all my models.
The smaller the model the less coats. Vehicles take me over 38 hours of hand painting. No spray paint or base coats.
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[QUOTE=Wingedwizard;34167579]If you spread the paint really carefully you dont need to thin it. But leaving it like that may give the model a rough texture.[/QUOTE]
I don't know about careful, not on vehicles at least but soldiers I'd say so. The beauty of painting like this is if it's a "bad paint job" by my standards I use my finger nail to chip it off and start all over without any issue.
It does have a rough texture though, and I never put a clear coat or anything on it so it is prone to chip but they literally never move from my desk anyway.
I also don't mix paints for whatever reason. It's like the models are 3D coloring books to me. They come out looking factory-fresh but for a race like the Tau who weren't even Grimdark to begin with than what's it matter?
Yeh I never got the whole thing about thinning paints, I never need to and get nice even coats pretty easily.
Just spray depending on final colour, brushes for units and airbrush for tanks.
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;34167586]So I paint right onto the plastic[/QUOTE]
Plastic is forgiving about this. Primer helps, but if you ever do a metal model, wash and prime it.
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Only paints I dont thin are metallic ones, because you fucking CAN'T. So I either dry brush it on or am really careful.
oh i thought it was necessary to first basecoat with a color and then paint on top of it but it does make sense just starting directly on plastic because thats really what you do when basecoating, hehe stupid me! i have sprayed the two other terminators but for future projects i will paint directly on miniature!
[QUOTE=Skeeter;34167751]oh i thought it was necessary to first basecoat with a color and then paint on top of it but it does make sense just starting directly on plastic because thats really what you do when basecoating, hehe stupid me! i have sprayed the two other terminators but for future projects i will paint directly on miniature![/QUOTE]
Hold on there, don't take my advice. I'm an idiot. See what everyone else has to say first, I could be pants on head retarded for painting on the plastic the way I do and it's just dumb luck they come out looking alright.
[QUOTE=Skeeter;34167751]oh i thought it was necessary to first basecoat with a color and then paint on top of it but it does make sense just starting directly on plastic because thats really what you do when basecoating, hehe stupid me! i have sprayed the two other terminators but for future projects i will paint directly on miniature![/QUOTE]
Also dont paint with white in that amount.
It is an evil color.
Priming = spraying the model with a spray (usually chaos black/skull white) YOU SHOULD DO THIS
Basecoat = Your basic flat colour (so for ultramarines it'd be blue or whatever)
If you've not got the skill to apply your paint thinly straight from the pot, then you should thin your paints.
Skull white always comes out so grainy, so this is how i paint white
Spray the model chaos black
do 3-6 thin coats of Astronominican Grey until it's a solid colour
do 3-6 thin coats of skull white, leaving Astro Grey showing in the rececces.
Thats how i did the white on this guy
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I'd love to try these model painting shenanigans, but truth be told, I've been terrible with painting since kindergarten. It's my weakness.
[QUOTE=RayvenQ;34168141]So am I, but model painting is vastly different from regular painting.[/QUOTE]
I feel I'd make paint terribly thick on the models, just like I managed on paper.
