The Forgotten Realm: Mists of Fauhuin! A brand new server!
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[QUOTE=Darkyle;43806478]Hey Still, before you go putting in all this complicated bullshit, can you fix the stuff we already have?
We need more staff
Actual rules
More players
Improved plugins
pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls[/QUOTE]
We're in the process of all that. Do you think we're doing nothing or something. Silly post. This permissions plugin links with everything. Because of that I have to write a load of nodes up. And before you go saying 'but why' because i'm sure you specifically have asked for some of the features.
rules would be good
Will there be potion brewing at any point? If so, will it be restricted?
[QUOTE=TheSilverSalt;43827289]Will there be potion brewing at any point? If so, will it be restricted?[/QUOTE]
If brewing is ever enabled, at least keep PvP potions disabled, they're super OP
potions in pvp are piss easy to deal with
plus it actually makes it more varied
[QUOTE=papaya;43829088]potions in pvp are piss easy to deal with
plus it actually makes it more varied[/QUOTE]
You don't even play on this server, man.
[QUOTE=Darkyle;43829707][url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvaJ377g7uA[/url][/QUOTE]
im really not seeing the problem
5 [i]direct[/i] hits to kill a dude in prot IV armor
now show people how much it takes a maxed out diamond sword labelled "DICKPENIS" to kill someone
lets put a few scenarios so you can see when potions are better than sword and bow and when they aren't.
[b]Scenario 1A[/b]: You are on the roof of the house of someone who wears 4 diamond Prot IV equips (which is actually a waste as this puts you above the armor cap) and uses potions to fight. You have in your hand a stack of instant damage II potions. The dude leaves his house and you attack him.
[b]Expected Result[/b]: Dude dies before he can react
[b]Actual Result[/b]: Dude dies before he can react
[b]Scenario 1B[/b]: You are on the roof of the house of someone who wears 4 diamond Prot IV equips (which is actually a waste as this puts you above the armor cap) and uses potions to fight. You have in your hand a diamond sword thats named with some norse words that mean 'God's Wang' or something. It has Sharpness V along with whatever else you can throw on it. The dude leaves his house and you attack him.
[b]Expected Result[/b]: You die because the potions in his inventory rise up and swarm you dealing one billion damage to you forever even after you respawn
[b]Actual Result[/b]: Dude dies before he can react
[b]Scenario 2A[/b]: A fight! You are caught out by a guy springing up from the ground and swinging God's Wang at you in your armor. You both have the same armor. But you have potions! He is literally on top of you, and you throw the potions.
[b]Expected Result[/b]: The attacker dies because your potions are the satans cock to his gods wang and you do a gigabillion damage because potions are better than swords
[b]Actual Result[/b]: You die because you throw the potions so that it hurts both of you, while his sword is only damaging you.
[b]Scenario 2B[/b]: A fight! You are caught out by a guy sniping at you from afar using his "xxXXMystic Bow of mysterious PowerXXxx". You both have the same armor. But you have potions! He is quite a few blocks away, and you throw your potions
[b]Expected Result[/b]: The attacker dies because your potions are literally so broken that you can't even begin to comprehend the level of damage done by your potions because potions are better than bows
[b]Actual Result[/b]: you miss because he's much farther away. He kills you. try again fucker.
[b]Scenario 3[/b]: You're chasing a dude. He's decently far away from you and isn't trying to hit you. You throw your potions at him.
[b]Expected Result[/b]: Your potions are imbued with the spirit of the stars and automagically lock on to your target, killing him and desecrating his corpse
[b]Actual Result[/b]: You miss. You miss again. You hit him once but it did [url=http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Splash_Potions#Area_of_Effect]fuck all damage[/url]. He gets out of range and logs out (it's not combat logging cause he wasnt in combat!!). You get all pissy, write a mean comment on the thread and basically cause untold drama because you were trying to use the most OP item in the game and it didnt work. notch fix ur broken server
Potions are only good if you have the upper hand to begin with. If you do, a sword or bow would be just as good anyway. Potions are a great tool to start a fight, not to finish one.
Potions have their uses, I won't doubt that. But in combat, they have limited uses. They're very good for combat in small spaces, but in an open field, good fucking luck doing damage with potions. I know, I've looked at potions and thought "dude, these do so much damage and they must ignore armor right?" but in actual fact instant damage potions are shit vs anyone half-competent. Poison potions, on the other hand, are broken. If you are fighting in a cave, your best weapon is a poison II potion. But really, who fights in caves? Lava buckets do just as well in caves, and they can actually kill people.
I've been killed by potions far more infrequently than I have swords named PENISTHRUSTER. This is because A) potions take up precious inventory space and B) splash damage has a reduced effect even if you're 2 blocks away from where it hits. The only time I was beaten because of potions was when someone threw a poison potion at me, hid in his house to get his armor, then killed me because I had no health.
also how will you get around invisibility potions? Disable them altogether? thats bullshit.
[QUOTE=papaya;43833247]im really not seeing the problem
5 [i]direct[/i] hits to kill a dude in prot IV armor
now show people how much it takes a maxed out diamond sword labelled "DICKPENIS" to kill someone
lets put a few scenarios so you can see when potions are better than sword and bow and when they aren't.
[b]Scenario 1A[/b]: You are on the roof of the house of someone who wears 4 diamond Prot IV equips (which is actually a waste as this puts you above the armor cap) and uses potions to fight. You have in your hand a stack of instant damage II potions. The dude leaves his house and you attack him.
[b]Expected Result[/b]: Dude dies before he can react
[b]Actual Result[/b]: Dude dies before he can react
[b]Scenario 1B[/b]: You are on the roof of the house of someone who wears 4 diamond Prot IV equips (which is actually a waste as this puts you above the armor cap) and uses potions to fight. You have in your hand a diamond sword thats named with some norse words that mean 'God's Wang' or something. It has Sharpness V along with whatever else you can throw on it. The dude leaves his house and you attack him.
[b]Expected Result[/b]: You die because the potions in his inventory rise up and swarm you dealing one billion damage to you forever even after you respawn
[b]Actual Result[/b]: Dude dies before he can react
[b]Scenario 2A[/b]: A fight! You are caught out by a guy springing up from the ground and swinging God's Wang at you in your armor. You both have the same armor. But you have potions! He is literally on top of you, and you throw the potions.
[b]Expected Result[/b]: The attacker dies because your potions are the satans cock to his gods wang and you do a gigabillion damage because potions are better than swords
[b]Actual Result[/b]: You die because you throw the potions so that it hurts both of you, while his sword is only damaging you.
[b]Scenario 2B[/b]: A fight! You are caught out by a guy sniping at you from afar using his "xxXXMystic Bow of mysterious PowerXXxx". You both have the same armor. But you have potions! He is quite a few blocks away, and you throw your potions
[b]Expected Result[/b]: The attacker dies because your potions are literally so broken that you can't even begin to comprehend the level of damage done by your potions because potions are better than bows
[b]Actual Result[/b]: you miss because he's much farther away. He kills you. try again fucker.
[b]Scenario 3[/b]: You're chasing a dude. He's decently far away from you and isn't trying to hit you. You throw your potions at him.
[b]Expected Result[/b]: Your potions are imbued with the spirit of the stars and automagically lock on to your target, killing him and desecrating his corpse
[b]Actual Result[/b]: You miss. You miss again. You hit him once but it did [url=http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Splash_Potions#Area_of_Effect]fuck all damage[/url]. He gets out of range and logs out (it's not combat logging cause he wasnt in combat!!). You get all pissy, write a mean comment on the thread and basically cause untold drama because you were trying to use the most OP item in the game and it didnt work. notch fix ur broken server
Potions are only good if you have the upper hand to begin with. If you do, a sword or bow would be just as good anyway. Potions are a great tool to start a fight, not to finish one.
Potions have their uses, I won't doubt that. But in combat, they have limited uses. They're very good for combat in small spaces, but in an open field, good fucking luck doing damage with potions. I know, I've looked at potions and thought "dude, these do so much damage and they must ignore armor right?" but in actual fact instant damage potions are shit vs anyone half-competent. Poison potions, on the other hand, are broken. If you are fighting in a cave, your best weapon is a poison II potion. But really, who fights in caves? Lava buckets do just as well in caves, and they can actually kill people.
I've been killed by potions far more infrequently than I have swords named PENISTHRUSTER. This is because A) potions take up precious inventory space and B) splash damage has a reduced effect even if you're 2 blocks away from where it hits. The only time I was beaten because of potions was when someone threw a poison potion at me, hid in his house to get his armor, then killed me because I had no health.
also how will you get around invisibility potions? Disable them altogether? thats bullshit.[/QUOTE]
Thing is, you can't get diamond armour unless you're a "Master Craftsmen" or something, and enchants above level 10 are disabled and I assume banned.
make potions limited to being an alchemist then or some shit idk
[QUOTE=Raged;43833971]make potions limited to being an alchemist then or some shit idk[/QUOTE]
The limits will be removed once the devs im onto fix their plugin. Main goal is to get a number o enchantments I dont like gone and golden apples. After that all is dandy. Potions? Sure they're pretty cool but I'm uncertain about them. Maybe have the mats available and no soulsand. Its up for debate!
(The devs are working on the updates we want this weekend so fingers crossed!)
[QUOTE=Stillstanden;43834187]The limits will be removed once the devs im onto fix their plugin. Main goal is to get a number o enchantments I dont like gone and golden apples. After that all is dandy. Potions? Sure they're pretty cool but I'm uncertain about them. Maybe have the mats available and no soulsand. Its up for debate!
(The devs are working on the updates we want this weekend so fingers crossed!)[/QUOTE]
I just want a blaze rod :c
[QUOTE=papaya;43833247](which is actually a waste as this puts you above the armor cap)[/QUOTE]
Uh, they changed that like 5 major updates ago or something. You can't go past the EFF cap or w/e it is with only protection enchants now.
Also Strength II potions are literally the most overpowered shit in the game.
[QUOTE=TheSilverSalt;43836504]I just want a blaze rod :c[/QUOTE]
The problem with that is that you can the use the potions dropped by witches to make other dangerous PvP potions.
[editline]8th February 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Raged;43833971]make potions limited to being an alchemist then or some shit idk[/QUOTE]
How does one become a mastercraftsmen, or an alchemist? There's still been no explanation on how you choose a class, or if he's just going to assign certain people classes which would be the dumbest shit ever.
[QUOTE=soulharvester;43838219]
How does one become a mastercraftsmen, or an alchemist? There's still been no explanation on how you choose a class, or if he's just going to assign certain people classes which would be the dumbest shit ever.[/QUOTE]
Or if thats what we're doing! Its only place holder for the moment!
see the thing is tho, if you can actually get the equipments and there isnt some bullshit artificial barrier in the way, it's piss easy to get items for potions of strength or healing or whatever.
[QUOTE=papaya;43840985]see the thing is tho, if you can actually get the equipments and there isnt some bullshit artificial barrier in the way, it's piss easy to get items for potions of strength or healing or whatever.[/QUOTE]
This is a roleplay server, not some lelelele PvP everyone god apple kit server. Get over it.
[QUOTE=papaya;43840985]see the thing is tho, if you can actually get the equipments and there isnt some bullshit artificial barrier in the way, it's piss easy to get items for potions of strength or healing or whatever.[/QUOTE]
That's our point, Potions are incredible Overpowered compared to the effort you put in to getting them.
make it like harry potter and only the potions master has access to the materials
[QUOTE=Darkyle;43841920]This is a roleplay server, not some lelelele PvP everyone god apple kit server. Get over it.[/QUOTE]
if this is a RP server then you should come up with some sort of treaty to not use potions against each other rather than disable them entirely
That's stupid, no one would restrict themselves of something that allows for 260% additional melee damage in a war because of a treaty in minecraft.
then its hardly a rp server is it
If that were to happen I'd like to think people would be capable of such a thing or there be consequences.
writing treaties would be easier if sugar cane actually grew
because you know, paper and stuff
You clearly don't read the updates on planetminecraft.
when did you ever specify that you were posting updates on planetminecraft
[QUOTE=Raged;43855516]when did you ever specify that you were posting updates on planetminecraft[/QUOTE]
I didn't even know we were on PlanetMinecraft
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Dead server.
Is anything being done to advertise the server? I really do like the direction its headed in, with all the ideas. But it wont mean anything if only 2-3 people are on at any given time. Im not sure what all can be done to advertise it, but something needs to happen.
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