Deus Ex: Human Revolution V3 - I Never Asked For This - Games

[QUOTE=Zezibesh;31523922][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBqGC9sVBXY[/media] related[/QUOTE] >preview image hot [editline]4th August 2011[/editline] I don't see what's so wrong about having all but your brain augmented and all unnecessary organs removed. Why should we be held back by our own organic matter?

[QUOTE=Darth_GW7;31524938]>preview image hot [editline]4th August 2011[/editline] I don't see what's so wrong about having all but your brain augmented and all unnecessary organs removed. Why should we be held back by our own organic matter?[/QUOTE]Some people think cybernetics will eat your soul or something, more reasonably it might send off the deep end Shadowrun cyberpsychosis style. [editline]4th August 2011[/editline] But I can see why anything that directly interacts wit your brain might cause you to develop mental illnesses.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9Z3xv7_LjU[/media] What a shame. YEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!

Sup Hanzers. My house was/still is being renovated and I forgot my password like a spastic so I haven't been able to post and what not (god bless opera password manager). As soon as these goons finish augmenting my house I should be able to start working on shit again properly.

[QUOTE=keroba;31522839][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/O9bWq.jpg[/IMG] Been done before in fiction, in Ghost in the Shell it goes even one step further: They only keep a single part of your brain, the ghost with your personality. Every single memory gets stored on a cyberbrain. You eat crappy energy bars all day without real taste, cyber junkfood to keep your brain alive.[/QUOTE] brb watching ghost in the shell for the 3rd time

[QUOTE=spekter;31525101]Sup Hanzers. My house was/still is being renovated and I forgot my password like a spastic so I haven't been able to post and what not (god bless opera password manager). As soon as these goons finish augmenting my house I should be able to start working on shit again properly.[/QUOTE] [B]YES! YES![/B] [editline]4th August 2011[/editline] Also, anyone cool enough here wants Humble Indie Bundle 3? Like, seriously wants it?

awwwwwwwwwwwwwwyeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I bought 5 Humble Bundle 3s yesterday, assuming I would get accepted to the Graphic Designer job I was planning to apply, and when I called they didn't need me no more so...I wasted all of my fucking cash.

Anyway, spekter, great to see you back. We thought someone made a lethal takedown on you but it turned out it was non-lethal which is the most silent taked- [editline]4th August 2011[/editline] My automerge is augmented.

I had Red Dead Redemption and MGS4 to last me those 2 weeks or so. I've got a laptop I can repair but I need a windows disk but my stupid ass put all my spares in storage :smith: I would've gotten PS when I was using that other crappy laptop but its not mine and I can't do that shit with a touch pad.

[QUOTE=spekter;31525101]Sup Hanzers. My house was/still is being renovated and I forgot my password like a spastic so I haven't been able to post and what not (god bless opera password manager). As soon as these goons finish augmenting my house I should be able to start working on shit again properly.[/QUOTE] We thought you were e-dead, it's good to hear from you again. [editline]4th August 2011[/editline] Also, read my fanfic: Deuss eX; J,C denten chronicle Chap. 1 Jc, agent of unatcon. Went onto new yorn for the missions: FIND TERRORRISM LADDER AND ASSSASSSINATE HIM Jc said: ‘I have to find leader and kill him for op bonus” Jc ran over to local bum and spoke “ tell me wher he is… the terrorist base” Bum replys; “the cops told me 2 stay out of site, I donut wan’t any troubled Jc shot the bumg in the head for a lethal takedown… “what a shame” said denten as he remorselesslied walked to his mission area location “f**** im spookd whant if that aug agnent from UNATCON shoes up here…. He wilt be the end of us all?” terroristm leadder said anger “Surprises” jc dentend spoke “SON-OF-AN-“ said leader be4ore his throught was slut “what a mess.” Jc said, cool Suddenly, paul “paul! I fought you in honk gonk” “welcome to the koalalation jc… might as well start usin ur code nam e” said paun to be cuntinued [url]http://fanfic.vjad.net/stories/viewstory.php?sid=717[/url]

[QUOTE=jackattack;31525081][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9Z3xv7_LjU[/media] What a shame. YEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH![/QUOTE] That was glorious

[QUOTE=Dr Bob;31525528]We thought you were e-dead, it's good to hear from you again. [editline]4th August 2011[/editline] Also, read my fanfic: Deuss eX; J,C denten chronicle Chap. 1 Jc, agent of unatcon. Went onto new yorn for the missions: FIND TERRORRISM LADDER AND ASSSASSSINATE HIM Jc said: ‘I have to find leader and kill him for op bonus” Jc ran over to local bum and spoke “ tell me wher he is… the terrorist base” Bum replys; “the cops told me 2 stay out of site, I donut wan’t any troubled Jc shot the bumg in the head for a lethal takedown… “what a shame” said denten as he remorselesslied walked to his mission area location “f**** im spookd whant if that aug agnent from UNATCON shoes up here…. He wilt be the end of us all?” terroristm leadder said anger “Surprises” jc dentend spoke “SON-OF-AN-“ said leader be4ore his throught was slut “what a mess.” Jc said, cool Suddenly, paul “paul! I fought you in honk gonk” “welcome to the koalalation jc… might as well start usin ur code nam e” said paun to be cuntinued [url]http://fanfic.vjad.net/stories/viewstory.php?sid=717[/url][/QUOTE] [img]http://www.operatorchan.org/n/arch/src/n128135_JC%20Denton.jpg[/img] I....I... It's beautiful. Also, good to see E.Y.E is out I'll have to pick that up.

[QUOTE=spekter;31525101]Sup Hanzers. My house was/still is being renovated and I forgot my password like a spastic so I haven't been able to post and what not (god bless opera password manager). As soon as these goons finish augmenting my house I should be able to start working on shit again properly.[/QUOTE] we actually thought you died :ohdear:

[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;31526121]we actually thought you died :ohdear:[/QUOTE] I didn't. [editline]4th August 2011[/editline] Also, spekter, hate to ask you but uh did you draw my character on the picture? If you didn't, you can use the Heavy for me in my avatar since it'll be easier to draw/trace/copypaste (original - [url]http://i53.tinypic.com/33lmbdj.png[/url] ). Very sorry for being "HURR I WANT TO BE IN THE PICTURR" and not giving you the welcome since you just came back. :frown:

The thing with all this "replace everything but the brain" and "replace even the brain" is, at what point do you think we'd stop being human? It's Theseus' paradox. I'd love to hear what you guys think.

[QUOTE=spekter;31525101]Sup Hanzers. My house was/still is being renovated and I forgot my password like a spastic so I haven't been able to post and what not (god bless opera password manager). As soon as these goons finish augmenting my house I should be able to start working on shit again properly.[/QUOTE] Join the steam group. You won't regret it.

[QUOTE=Jericho_Rus;31526340]I didn't. [editline]4th August 2011[/editline] Also, spekter, hate to ask you but uh did you draw my character on the picture? If you didn't, you can use the Heavy for me in my avatar since it'll be easier to draw/trace/copypaste (original - [url]http://i53.tinypic.com/33lmbdj.png[/url] ). Very sorry for being "HURR I WANT TO BE IN THE PICTURR" and not giving you the welcome since you just came back. :frown:[/QUOTE] I was planning on drawing spencer but can use heavy whatever floats your boat.

[QUOTE=DudeGuyKT;31526510]The thing with all this "replace everything but the brain" and "replace even the brain" is, at what point do you think we'd stop being human? It's Theseus' paradox. I'd love to hear what you guys think.[/QUOTE] I think that humanity ends at replacing the brain. The brain is what contains the person, their memories, their personality, and their consciousnesses. Replacing everything would make the person a robot, nothing more.

[QUOTE=Communist Cake;31526604]I think that humanity ends at replacing the brain. The brain is what contains the person, their memories, their personality, and their consciousnesses. Replacing everything would make the person a robot, nothing more.[/QUOTE] But what if the new brain could simulate all those things? Heck you would only bother replacing it if the replacement could surpass the original in every way. [QUOTE=Communist Cake;31526545]Join the steam group. You won't regret it.[/QUOTE] I'm in.

That'd be an amazing accomplishment, but they still wouldn't be human. They'd be a simulation of one.

[img]http://i.imgur.com/7x8oT.png[/img]

[QUOTE=Communist Cake;31526635]That'd be an amazing accomplishment, but they still wouldn't be human. They'd be a simulation of one.[/QUOTE] True. It all boils down to the fact that its just not natural evolution and thats what bothers people the most.

[QUOTE=spekter;31526594]I was planning on drawing spencer but can use heavy whatever floats your boat.[/QUOTE] Aww, The Heavy would be nice. Thanks a lot for doing this, bro.

I don't think there's a point where humanity "ends", it's subjective and a sliding scale, you can "lose your humanity" without cybernetics.

[QUOTE=DudeGuyKT;31526510]The thing with all this "replace everything but the brain" and "replace even the brain" is, at what point do you think we'd stop being human? It's Theseus' paradox. I'd love to hear what you guys think.[/QUOTE] If everything is replaced neuron-by-neuron and atom-by-atom by nanomachines or w/e and the stream of consciousness never cuts off it's still the same you That aside I wouldn't risk a full-brain replacement, augmentations and making it sturdier etc is fine though, as is tracing new neural paths and connections. [editline]4th August 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=keroba;31526643]we can fully emulate the computational power of a cats brain with existing supercomputers, yet we can't make the computer think like a cat because we lack software that represents the correct wiring. once you start getting over it that being human is nothing special you will see we are just are biochemical machines & computers. when we die it's the same as a computers fries. our organic hardware simply fails. replacing the the brain with computer hardware beyond our current technological level would make you no less human.[/QUOTE] But shit like mind-computer transfers would kill you, and replace you with a clone which thinks it is you.

See? This is good.

[QUOTE=Zezibesh;31526694]But shit like mind-computer transfers would kill you, and replace you with a clone which thinks it is you.[/QUOTE]So what's the difference? If it's an exact copy it is you for all intents and purposes other than what it's made from.

[QUOTE=Stren;31526776]So what's the difference? If it's an exact copy it is you for all intents and purposes other than what it's made from.[/QUOTE] Its not YOUR consciousness though, just a duplicate. No one else would care but you.

[QUOTE=spekter;31526786]Its not YOUR consciousness though, just a duplicate. No one else would care but you.[/QUOTE] From your point of view you would die.

[QUOTE=spekter;31526786]Its not YOUR consciousness though, just a duplicate. No one else would care but you.[/QUOTE]The mind is just an operation performed by your brain, if it can be emulated and transferred to a synthetic equivalent, it's still you, no matter if it's a clone or a replacement.