[QUOTE=chipsnapper2;41408077]Dota 2 is released to the public as of 7/9.
Something is going to happen at GamesCom.[/QUOTE]
Yea, Valve will present something related to water surfing. I wouldn't be surprised if they just inveted new kind of swimsuits. Sometimes I feel they would even start producing a toilet paper just to not announce next HL... :(. I hope I'm wrong. I would be happy with either HL3, L4D3 or even just short Source 2 introduction. That would make me rly happy. I can't get myself hyped anymore though. It's been too long.
While there definitely will be a playable build of DOTA 2 at Gamescom, I think there's going to be a big reveal one way or another. Even if it's simply Source 2.
[QUOTE=Reimu;41409538]While there definitely will be a playable build of DOTA 2 at Gamescom, I think there's going to be a big reveal one way or another. Even if it's simply Source 2.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Reimu;41409538]Even if it's simply Source 2.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Reimu;41409538]simply Source 2.[/QUOTE]
I consider Source 2 a pretty big deal.
I'd consider a new Source to be a way bigger fucking deal than a new Half Life.
I mean one is a game, the other is a platform from which endless games may spring.
[QUOTE=xalener;41422924]I'd consider a new Source to be a way bigger fucking deal than a new Half Life.
I mean one is a game, the other is a platform from which endless games may spring.[/QUOTE]
I agree on this. I mean, look how many games were developed on Source. Eh... 11? Either way, knowing Valve, they are gonna use the heck out of it. They have been using Source for how many years now. 9-10? And it still looks okay. Not the best, but still pretty good engine in my opinion.
To be honest, the only reason I'd be excited about Source 2 is if they previewed a Source 2 game as well.
I mean, yes, Source 2 is exciting and it's huge news for Valve. But I would also be royally pissed if all we saw was a lousy tech demo showcasing Source 2's capabilities.
i'd be happy if they showcased a source 2 tech demo, that would mean the work is well advanced
of course they're not developing a graphic engine for nothing, there's games to use it in the end, but there's no need to show or even announce games using it (yet)
i believe, from valve's pov, it is best to proceed in two steps:
-announce the engine and showcase tech demos
-then later, announce a new game using the new engine, and showcase in game footage
[QUOTE=Reimu;41428799]But I would also be royally pissed if all we saw was a lousy tech demo showcasing Source 2's capabilities.[/QUOTE]
I'd actually be fine with just this, if it's similarly amazing like the E3 demo of Source.
It's probably hoping for too much and being too nostalgic, but if they remade the E3 2003 stuff to showcase source 2, that would be amazing. I think it'd show just how far the engine has come.
Of course, it'd be likely if they DID do that then there would be brand new stuff to showcase the new features better, but to see the old E3 demo maps remade would just be awesome.
But is there really a Source 2 going to be unveiled? Maybe its just Portal2.exe?
Alfred saying that the current "source" engine has branched away from Source-1 (and is a different engine entirely), makes me wonder. But it is rather vague...
[QUOTE=SpotEnemyBoat;41432503]But is there really a Source 2 going to be unveiled? Maybe its just Portal2.exe?
Alfred saying that the current "source" engine has branched away from Source-1 (and is a different engine entirely), makes me wonder. But it is rather vague...[/QUOTE]
From what we've heard via Gabe it sounds like the set that's at-least known around the company as 'source-2' is a hard difference from source 1 or any of it's branches.
Portal 2 is really Source 1.5
More than likely Ricochet 2 will be talked about at Gamescom if anything. From what I've heard some devs moved over to the Ricochet 2 development area with the release of DOTA 2.
[QUOTE=WitheredGryphon;41435074]More than likely Ricochet 2 will be talked about at Gamescom if anything. From what I've heard some devs moved over to the Ricochet 2 development area with the release of DOTA 2.[/QUOTE]
source or no go
[QUOTE=WitheredGryphon;41435532][img]http://puu.sh/3BCts.png[/img]
[url]https://twitter.com/MarcLaidlaw/status/354768002748645379[/url][/QUOTE]
Thing is, that's [I]one[/I] dev and he's semi-joking. We don't know what's really going on.
[QUOTE=Neo Kabuto;41435653]Thing is, that's [I]one[/I] dev and he's semi-joking. We don't know what's really going on.[/QUOTE]
Looking down further at the tweets he talks about how he wants to improve and shape Ricochet 2, but fair enough I suppose. I was just trying to give an example.
[QUOTE=glitchvid;41432660]From what we've heard via Gabe it sounds like the set that's at-least known around the company as 'source-2' is a hard difference from source 1 or any of it's branches.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkR1O3j6SFI[/url]
[QUOTE]-We've been working on Valve's new engine stuff for a while, we're probably just waiting for a game to roll it out with.
-Is it going to be more than just an extension to Source? Is it an entirely new engine?
-Yeah![/QUOTE]
source 2 is an entirely new engine
source 2007/2009/... are still just iterations of source "1"
also, in this video, gabe does says they're still working on "ricochet 2"
[QUOTE=psikobare;41438694][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkR1O3j6SFI[/url]
source 2 is an entirely new engine
source 2007/2009/... are still just iterations of source "1"
also, in this video, gabe does says they're still working on "ricochet 2"[/QUOTE]
From what we know, it seems like Source "1" and Source 2 are going to be compatible somehow. I have doubts Source 2 will be build from scratch...
Of course it's not built from scratch, it'd be illogical to not build upon existing code.
[QUOTE=Coffee;41438853]Of course it's not built from scratch, it'd be illogical to not build upon existing code.[/QUOTE]
there's a difference from building absolutely everything from scratch and building a new engine
yes, there might still be some portions of code from source (1), hell, maybe they'll even still have commented lines of code of carmack,cause they simply don't have to, but that doesn't mean source 2 can't be an entirely new engine
i expect valve to show the same level of difference between source 1 and 2 as there was for, say, cryengine 1 and 2
[QUOTE=psikobare;41440972]there's a difference from building absolutely everything from scratch and building a new engine
yes, there might still be some portions of code from source (1), hell, maybe they'll even still have commented lines of code of carmack,cause they simply don't have to, but that doesn't mean source 2 can't be an entirely new engine
i expect valve to show the same level of difference between source 1 and 2 as there was for, say, cryengine 1 and 2[/QUOTE]
the only thing that technically differentiates 'entirely new!' engines is a name
[QUOTE=psikobare;41438694][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkR1O3j6SFI[/url]
source 2 is an entirely new engine
source 2007/2009/... are still just iterations of source "1"
[/QUOTE]
Yea, that's sorta what I said: There's a hard difference between source 1 branches and the new Source 2 tree, and that Source 1's tree is a bit of a mess.
It's so fucking weird that we're at a point where developers are selling their game by the name of the engine it runs on.
Seriously, how many of the consumers that appear to give a shit actually know anything about what they're being told?
i don't understand
[QUOTE=xalener;41448958]It's so fucking weird that we're at a point where developers are selling their game by the name of the engine it runs on.
Seriously, how many of the consumers that appear to give a shit actually know anything about what they're being told?[/QUOTE]
I'm interested in TitanFall because it looks fun, but mostly because it's apparently a source derivation.
[QUOTE=xalener;41448958]It's so fucking weird that we're at a point where developers are selling their game by the name of the engine it runs on.
Seriously, how many of the consumers that appear to give a shit actually know anything about what they're being told?[/QUOTE]
I didn't buy Portal 2 because of what engine it has, I bought it because I am a [B][U]huge[/U][/B] Portal fan and Portal 2 looked like a very fun game... and I was right!
it was semi off topic about engine talk in general.
Why don't they give it a new name
Like SilverSrc or shit.
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