Men of War: Assault Squad v1 - Japan is so overpowered. - Games

so I was playing as Japan, on Frag Town, with a random and a friend, against 2 randoms (one of which was 13, I think) we kicked their ass The enemy team was obviously inexperienced and didn't field the AT guns and infantry required to counter the Ha-Go rush that accompanies fighting a Japanese opponent. me and my friend raped their starting squads with Ha-Gos, capped 3/5 points, then pushed left they delayed us for a bit, then I called in medium tanks and SNLF, and it was GG the 13 year old's partner quit. I think it was because he was being an idiot and spawning Willys MBs for no apparent reason.

is it just me or is combat vastly inferior to assault zones? it's like "camp"... because you have to cut losses and maximize kills.

[QUOTE=trotskygrad;32312533]but can't you mine train tracks? seems like an easy counter plus trains are nice and slow, I don't think those passenger cars are bulletproof [editline]15th September 2011[/editline] also, holy shit, this game looks fucking legit, english release plx [video=youtube;iNLKQxaV_3g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNLKQxaV_3g[/video] " Tskhinvali On Fire that will focus on the 2008 russian-georgian conflict is supposedly a new game based on the GEM engine." I really hope they add proper guided missiles that would be damn sexy (like with the sniper-timer to lock onto a target)[/QUOTE] They're actually releasing this in the west? 1C and Bestway have made a lot more than just Soldiers, Faces/Men of War on the GEM engine, but they're never released outside of Russia/Ukraine etc.

[QUOTE=LordLoss;32378503]They're actually releasing this in the west? 1C and Bestway have made a lot more than just Soldiers, Faces/Men of War on the GEM engine, but they're never released outside of Russia/Ukraine etc.[/QUOTE] who knows... in other news, MoW:AS patch coming out (~September 30th) this one is going to be huge [quote] General [B]• Added PPSH41 • Added M50 Reising • Added Lewis Gun • Added Type99 at-rifle grenade dispenser • Added Type99 at-rifle grenade • Added Satchel Charge • Added HDM OSS pistol[/B] • Added new grenade F1 3d model • Added new grenade M24 3d model • Added new grenade M24x4 3d model • Added new grenade M39 3d model • Added new grenade M61 3d model • Added new grenade MK I 3d model • Added new grenade N73AT 3d model • Added new grenade PWM 1 3d model • Added new grenade RGD33X3 3d model • Added new grenade RPG40 3d model • Added new grenade RPG43 3d model • Added new grenade Type 4AT 3d model • Added new grenade Type 3AT 3d model • Added new grenade Type97 3d model • Added new grenade Type99 3d model • Added new grenade Type99 Magnetic AT 3d model • Added new grenade Smoke 3d model • Added new grenade Molotov 3d model • Added new Dynamite 3d model • Added new Medkit 3d model • Added new Bandage 3d model • Added new Sandbags inventory 3d model • Added new Allied flamethrower 3d model • Added new Axis flamethrower 3d model • Added new at-mines 3d model • Added new ap-mines 3d model • Added new body armor 3d model • Added orientation points on the minimap • Added highlight of selected units on the minimap • Added tracer display on minimap to follow engagements easier • Added 64 sound buffers option • Added updated unit icons to fit new inventory items [B]• Added accuracy boost on bazookas when shooting at same location multiple times[/B] [B]• Added new camera move functions (use direct control movement keys when direct control is disabled to move camera)[/B] • Added new mgun sounds • Added shell fx to all small arms [B]• Changed fortifications of HMGs (changed from nearly 360 circle to front only)[/B] • Changed US Sappers to carry M3A1 instead of Thompson • Changed US At-miners to carry M3A1 instead of Thompson • Changed US AP-miners to carry M3A1 instead of Thompson • Changed Soviet Sappers to carry PPSH41 instead of PPSH • Changed Soviet At-miners to carry PPSH41 instead of PPSH • Changed Soviet AP-miners to carry PPSH41 instead of PPSH [B]• Changed dynamite to explode when hit by an explosion • Changed dynamite to be collectable once thrown[/B] • Changed support infantry to have SMG unit icons not bazooka/at-rifle/flamer etc. • Changed some infantry icon hierarchy settings • Changed single units to have a health icon display on the left interface • Changed color of health icons [B]• Changed penetration values of at-rifles to be more streamlined[/B] • Changed enter-able sewers to be open on start [B]• Changed US airborne to carry satchel charge instead of dynamite[/B] [B]• Changed Soviet tank commander to carry ppsh41 instead of pps43[/B] • Changed flamethrower effect to be less hardware demanding • Changed unit icon hierarchy for better interface layout [I][B][I]• Changed riflemen to carry additional 50 mgun ammo[/I][/B][/I] • Changed elite infantry grenades to be more balanced • Changed unit group colors • Changed projectiles to disappear much later than before [B]• Changed AT-grenades to blow up when getting hit by another explosive[/B] • Changed bloom slicer to on/off box [B]• Changed flaregun to require radio • Changed inventory of scouts • Changed hedgehogs to be placed closer to each other[/B] • Changed direct control modifier key to be assignable • Changed inventory of regular squad leader • Changed inventory of assault squad leader • Changed a few ground hit effects to be less system demanding [B]• Increased ammo of all mgunners to 900[/B] [B]• Increased speed of unarmed gun-carriers from 18km/h to 20km/h • Increased speed of armed gun-carriers from 15km/h to 18km/h[/B] • Increased speed of Black Prince from 11 km/h to 13 km/h • Increased speed of Churchill AVRE from 12 km/h to 13 km/h • Increased explosion timer of dynamte from 6 sec to 7 sec • Increased uncover radius of officer binoculars • Increased heavy ammo call-ins of officer from 1 to 5 [B]• Increased sandbags build time from 10 sec to 15 sec • Increased range of at-jeep from 30m to 40m • Increased amount of ap mines of engineer trucks from 30 to 60 • Reduced HE shells of all at-guns to 5[/B] • Removed AI shooting at unknown • Removed inventory of basic crates • Removed inventory of stuff crates • Removed ability of nettings to fetch grenades [B]• Removed flare gun from officers • Removed flare gun from scouts • Removed shields from KV-1 • Removed camouflage skin of T-34-57[/B] • Removed unnecessary key bindings in options (it's recommended to reset key bindings) [B]• Removed enforced stationary firing on isuzu mortar truck[/B] • Fixed layed mines not showing up as such • Fixed royal engineers icons • Fixed rotating of M30 howitzer • Fixed rotating of HMGs • Fixed M19 turret volumes •[B] Fixed the loading of APCR when using the interface to switch[/B] • Fixed missing sound of flare gun • Fixed damage display of stationary 61k AA gun • Fixed Oerlikons inability to shoot at planes • Fixed a buggy human model volume • Fixed dynamite not burning when thrown • Fixed M12 GMC max range • Fixed close firing range of KV-1 • Fixed an issue that 3, 5, 7 etc. clicks were not counted as double click • Fixed range display of Panzerfaust • Fixed inability to repair M4A3R2 Croc main gun Multiplayer • Added unit score display to Assault Zones (Hover mouse over unit and press Shift) • Added display of friends and foes in multiplayer lobby • Added ranked trust rating to multiplayer (gold = good, silver = ok, red = bad, grey = unranked) [B]• Added ranked balance protection[/B] • Added display of player numbers in team games • Added display of total online users • Added chat spam protection • Added multiplayer pointer spam protection [B]• Added special units call in groups (buying one resets timer of group members)[/B] • Added new icons displaying special unit groups [B]• Added AT-riflegrenade squad as Japanese special unit call-in[/B] • Added chat team/global function [B]• Changed HMGs to have double price in "no tanks" mode • Changed Jeeps to have double price in "no tanks" mode • Changed unit points to display real value more accurately • Changed Isuzu Mortar truck special unit call-in to a regular unit[/B] • Changed units to spawn as squad no matter the size in multiplayer [B]• Changed heavy AA guns to be limited 1 per player • Changed trains on Lakeland 4v4 for better balance • Increased recall timer of HMGs from 120 sec to 300 sec • Increased re-call timer of light AAs from 120 sec to 300 sec • Increased re-call timer of mortars from 120 sec to 300 sec • Increased price of officer from 160 MP to 200 MP • Increased CP of scouts from 5 CP to 8 CP • Increased CP of radioman from 6 CP to 10 CP • Increased CP of flamer squad from 5 CP to 6 CP • Increased price of Oerlikon from 160 MP to 170 MP • Increased price of IS-3 from 2000 MP to 2200 MP • Reduced Goliath special points from 2 to 1 • Reduced CP usage of Charge! special attack • Reduced Charge! special points from 3 to 2 • Reduced price of KV-1 from 550 MP to 500 MP • Reduced price of T-34-57 from 550 MP to 500 MP • Reduced price of At-Jeep from 160 MP to 150 MP • Removed maxim from Charge! special attack[/B] • Fixed ranked match box overlapping with password confirmation • Fixed points display of support weapons in "no tanks" mode • Fixed some wrong unit points • Fixed minimap of 3v3 Crossing • Fixed a bug with Goliath explosion during spawn protection • Fixed that you could add a friend to blocked and vice versa • Fixed multiplayer pointer sound to no longer appear for the other team • Fixed small map issues Skirmish [B]• Changed medic to carry a single morphine kit[/B] • Changed destroyed units to disappear earlier in order to increase performance on long lasting skirmishes • Fixed edifices on [Japan] Okinawa • Fixed some wrong inventories • Fixed some vehicle crews weapon animations in defence skirmish • Fixed some water dispaly in defence skirmish • Fixed small map issues [/quote] important changes in bold

[quote=trotskygrad] • Reduced price of KV-1 from 550 MP to 500 MP • Reduced price of T-34-57 from 550 MP to 500 MP [/quote] why

I'd say thats fair, especially for the '57, never see that thing get used because its too damn pricy.

[QUOTE=LordLoss;32380873]I'd say thats fair, especially for the '57, never see that thing get used because its too damn pricy.[/QUOTE] well it makes it a more obvious choice you have an infantry support tank and you have a tank-hunter tank... they cost the same, what do you need more. It's like SdKfz 222 vs. Pz. II Luchs 222 is recon, harassment, and theft (stealing arty/AT, since it can tow, and is 3 units faster), and Pz. II Luchs is for infantry support because it's got more armor (10mm to be precise), to resist AC fire. They have the same unit cost and armament. IMO this patch really shoves turtling in the dump, as HMGs are no longer the invincible insta-fortresses they once were, it takes 50% longer to make sandbags (no more sandbags everywhere, I hope). Also they increased the timer for HMG/light FlaK/Mortars by over 100%, and limits Heavy AA to 1 per player (no more FlaK 37 spam, fuck yeah). Also AT guns will no longer be anti-infantry/anti-building unless you call in a supply truck to give it more HE. The Bazooka AT Jeep has been buffed a LOT, or so it seems (10m more max range, since hollow charge (AT rocket) projectiles maintain penetration potential over range, that's a significant buff), along with the general bazooka accuracy buff, and decreased cost. Japan seems to have gotten a significant early game buff with the mortar isuzu, and [b]1 BRAND NEW UNIT[/b] Seems like it's going to get a lot tougher for germany players, especially vs. SU, with the heavy AA limitation. SU got nerfed a bit though on the infy side, since all their SMGs on non-frontline troops now are [b]not[/b] the beast that is the PPsH.

[QUOTE=trotskygrad;32382341] SU got nerfed a bit though on the infy side, since all their SMGs on non-frontline troops now are [b]not[/b] the beast that is the PPsH.[/QUOTE] They still get PPSHs, just smaller magazine versions.

[QUOTE=LordLoss;32384974]They still get PPSHs, just smaller magazine versions.[/QUOTE] yeah but smaller mag = they can't serve as fuckin spam-o-matics that rival the firepower and surpression of LMGs in CQC plus I'll bet that they'll nerf the RoF a little bit on the small mag ones, even though they are basing it on IRL RoF wouldn't be fair, as the Americans have the M3, which is inferior to the M1 Thompson for their rear-ech troops, Japanese have the MP28_30 (not the 50 round variant given to the SNLF) for their rear-ech, Germans have the meh MP40, and British have the equally meh Sten. arguably the Brits and the Germans have the advantage in rear-ech troops, but no one really uses them seriously for combat, except in desperate situations in which I have tank commanders fighting for their lives. If your sappers or truck drivers get ambushed by elites or paras (which are the only troops one usually sends behind enemy lines to do stealth caps), they're fucked no matter what gun they have.

Sten is miles better than the MP40 I'd say, slow RoF but its accuracy is quite decent. Also if I didnt know better I'd say its got higher damage too, but they both fire the same round.

[QUOTE=LordLoss;32385746]Sten is miles better than the MP40 I'd say, slow RoF but its accuracy is quite decent. Also if I didnt know better I'd say its got higher damage too, but they both fire the same round.[/QUOTE] what? accuracy curves for all SMGs seem to be the same, tbh they're all very similar for small arms. IMO most gun preferences are based on "feelings" rather than statistics, I once met a guy who said that the American Conscripts had the best rifle because it fired fast, when in fact they only carry the M1903 Springfield, and not the M1 Garand issued to all other American standard infantry (regular and assault). The M1 Garand gives American Rifleman an advantage as they are the only faction that has semi-autos issued to regular troops. It makes up for their poor MG, which has the smallest magazine of them all. American Paras carry the M1 carbine and Rangers carry the select fire M2 Carbine, which IMO is a bit better than the StG44 at times.

I never see them fire the M2 on full auto, but hey thats what direct control is for. And I'm pretty sure all of the small arms have their own stats, just like the other weapons in the game. By the way: [quote=DMS said to Rockpapershotgun] For example, we are working on a small, but significant multiplayer add-on to Assault Squad, which likely will be available for free to all our players if we continue our DLC success. Lastly, we are discussing a new title for the series, which is an entire rework of the present game from the ground up. It is too early to talk about details, but one thing is for sure, we are eager to enhance this series significantly.[/quote]

[QUOTE=LordLoss;32398199]I never see them fire the M2 on full auto, but hey thats what direct control is for.[/QUOTE] Really? I see it all the time (SMG/pistol range), it makes this awesome noise. (BTW for clarity call it the M2 Carbine, most players assume the M2 is the M2HB .50 cal machine gun) it's always fun to mount the M2HB on the German Halftrack and Tiger tank, it's hilarious when you take out a jeep with the 50 cal while waiting for the 88mm to reload. [QUOTE=LordLoss;32398199] And I'm pretty sure all of the small arms have their own stats, just like the other weapons in the game. [/QUOTE] I'm not contesting that, I'm arguing that the difference between the combat effectiveness is marginal at best between different guns of a similar type (MP40 vs. Sten) [QUOTE=LordLoss;32398199] By the way:[/QUOTE] yeah Instinct has been talking about MoW2 or whatever. 1C seems to just be pumping out crap additions to vMoW, so it'll probably be up to DMS to make a MoW2. and I have my trust in DMS

bumped due to old thread getting closed from the other thread [video=youtube;PKhA-X_Ntv0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKhA-X_Ntv0[/video] shitty preview, actual video is much better.

I got this game for free from the Toki Tori achievement. Had a couple of good chuckles while doing the Holiday achievement.

[video=youtube;k_bCv5sxpzU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_bCv5sxpzU[/video] eh, shitty preview returns!

Why were all the older posts locked?

[QUOTE=Angus725;34022927]Why were all the older posts locked?[/QUOTE] Probably a decrease in the maximum page limit per thread.

So I was playing GSM for AS and a flamethrower panzer III bounced a: ZiS-30 shot from every single direction SU-100 shot ISU-122s shot T-34/85 shot A million AT nades/bazookas All from like 10m away. op pls nerf

[QUOTE=Teh Zip File;34023510]So I was playing GSM for AS and a flamethrower panzer III bounced a: ZiS-30 shot from every single direction SU-100 shot ISU-122s shot T-34/85 shot A million AT nades/bazookas All from like 10m away. op pls nerf[/QUOTE] GSM has so many problems it has to overcome before getting to balance it's amazing.

Funny thing though... earlier in that same round I shot a KT in the side of the turret with a SU-76 and ammo racked it from like halfway across the map.

[QUOTE=Teh Zip File;34024480]Funny thing though... earlier in that same round I shot a KT in the side of the turret with a SU-76 and ammo racked it from like halfway across the map.[/QUOTE] GSM makes penetration all funky.

I have a newfound appreciation for the power of SPAMMING the lowest-tier infantry. as one unlucky opponent described it "it's like Berlin in 1945" also KT's side armor sucks, killed 2 in one game with a comet and centurion, through APCR sideshots also killed a jagdtiger with a captured FlaK 37 88mm APCR to the rear. Gotta love noobs + heavy tanks.

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Haven't played that much since the stats reset, and it's funny. Now I'm the one getting kicked for being a noob that has a very low amount of games played. :v:

[QUOTE=killiam;34119346]Haven't played that much since the stats reset, and it's funny. Now I'm the one getting kicked for being a noob that has a very low amount of games played. :v:[/QUOTE] I'm a corporal... haha such a badass no but seriously, who are you playing with?

My friends got tired of playing it, so I'm playing alone now :(

[QUOTE=killiam;34119823]My friends got tired of playing it, so I'm playing alone now :([/QUOTE] you can play with me. also, I managed to drive an M8 scott around a tiger... details in the WoT thread

[QUOTE=trotskygrad;34120065]you can play with me. also, I managed to drive an M8 scott around a tiger... details in the WoT thread[/QUOTE] Shout at me on steam, I'm up for a few games when I'm not busy.

I'll go for a game too, I'll add you guys on Steam.