Fallout Series Thread V14: When i entered this thread i was hoping there would be more gambling - Games

[QUOTE=Magmacow358;46576764]I have no idea how I never thought of this before but it makes the whole great war seem really dumb and pointless (more than it already was) in retrospect[/QUOTE] That's part of the whole point, both in the strict context of the story and as a broader commentary on the attitudes of the world during the Cold War - and I guess today as well.

[QUOTE=Pops;46576600]man i wish new vegas would work properly if i run the game through the normal launcher it freezes on starting the game if i run it through the 4gb ram patch, it never crashes but it doesn't detect any screenshots i take.[/QUOTE] The screenshots do get detected, but they are in a folder with the number 0 if I remember that right. That is if you're referring to Steam. In my case I had an original proper NV screenshots folder, so I dragged all my screenshots from the 0 folder in to that and relaunched Steam to upload them. It's very weird and it's a slow process to do, but it is possible. For some reason Steam acts like it's not Fallout or something or a game at all because when I managed to upload them originally, they didn't have a game they were under. Couldn't tell you why.

I wish there was a texturepack for the DLCs.

[QUOTE=Magmacow358;46576764]I have no idea how I never thought of this before but it makes the whole great war seem really dumb and pointless (more than it already was) in retrospect[/QUOTE] Well it's similar to the situation with alternative power sources in the present, the majority of the generators that are set up run on oil. It would cost a considerable amount of money and labor to make the switch to provide nuclear energy to the general public. That or the United States government is incredibly lazy and just wanted an excuse to bomb those stupid commies, which is more likely.

Wait wait wait, hold on If House could build anti-nuke turret thingies to protect Vegas, why couldn't the Government do the same/buy the designs from him?

[QUOTE=Magmacow358;46584280]Wait wait wait, hold on If House could build anti-nuke turret thingies to protect Vegas, why couldn't the Government do the same/buy the designs from him?[/QUOTE] ha as if house would let anyone have the same power as him

[QUOTE=Magmacow358;46584280]Wait wait wait, hold on If House could build anti-nuke turret thingies to protect Vegas, why couldn't the Government do the same/buy the designs from him?[/QUOTE] I believe the government's resources were extremely thin at the time, not to mention they were in the process of fighting china up north. It's possible that they didn't expect China to nuke a country that they were trying to invade and take over. Also, I could be wrong, but didn't house say that he finished the anti-nuke defenses very shortly before the bombs actually dropped? I seem to remember there being an in-game explanation for it.

the great war is totally pointless but it would probably happen in real life if we had those circumstances cause we're as a race a bunch of kids fighting over pointless things

[QUOTE=Schmaaa;46584602]I believe the government's resources were extremely thin at the time, not to mention they were in the process of fighting china up north. It's possible that they didn't expect China to nuke a country that they were trying to invade and take over. Also, I could be wrong, but didn't house say that he finished the anti-nuke defenses very shortly before the bombs actually dropped? I seem to remember there being an in-game explanation for it.[/QUOTE] The government spent almost all its budget on war preparations and military equipment, which even caused lack of cultural development, keeping USA into 1950's style. You'd think they could've at least planned a similar anti-nuke turret system. Just in case.

It's possible that the government was banking on M.A.D and wasn't worried about China actually using nukes.

[QUOTE=Col. Mandrake;46585706]It's possible that the government was banking on M.A.D and wasn't worried about China actually using nukes.[/QUOTE] If I recall correctly, no one in America but the predecessors of the Enclave, House, and the paranoid few Vault-Tech preyed on (not even Vault-Tech themselves, they're just pawns of the Enclave) actually believed there was going to be a nuclear war. Preparations were definetly being made for invasion, not total destruction.

If they are stuck in 1950s culture, would that mean that the Cold War did not end until the resource war started, in 2052?

[QUOTE=E3245;46586568]If they are stuck in 1950s culture, would that mean that the Cold War did not end until the resource war started, in 2052?[/QUOTE] With Russia at least, no. I don't know exactly when but sometime before the Resource War all of Europe collapsed into chaos. Speaking of which, I had an interesting idea...I'm not personally a fan of the idea of a Fallout game outside North America, but if, as someone said here, they're stuck in 50sland because they've poured so much of their time and effort into war preparations, does that mean that the rest of the world progressed relatively normally? That would explain why the Chinese stealth armor is so very much not retro. Would be interesting to one day see parts of Mexico or something that look more 80s than 50s. [sp]also makes some of the random 80s elements i hear were in fallout 2 more fitting[/sp]

[QUOTE=_charon;46586706]With Russia at least, no. I don't know exactly when but sometime before the Resource War all of Europe collapsed into chaos. Speaking of which, I had an interesting idea...I'm not personally a fan of the idea of a Fallout game outside North America, but if, as someone said here, they're stuck in 50sland because they've poured so much of their time and effort into war preparations, does that mean that the rest of the world progressed relatively normally? That would explain why the Chinese stealth armor is so very much not retro. Would be interesting to one day see parts of Mexico or something that look more 80s than 50s. [sp]also makes some of the random 80s elements i hear were in fallout 2 more fitting[/sp][/QUOTE] see i always figured america and china were more or less world-dominating hyperpowers, so by the end almost every country was homogenized to whoever they sided with. i mean since america and china were both imperialist dystopias who basically manipulated everything in preparation to wipe the other off the planet, i could totally see them setting it up so each side of the world would rely on them for almost all manufacturing, design, and technological breakthroughs. so the whole rest of the world would use pretty much the same stuff you see in the american wastes, maybe a couple years out of date (since a bunch of governments completely dissolved just before the great war)

So I'm doing the Yes Man ending for New Vegas, and I'm now doing For Auld Lang Syne, but my only options are to have the Remnants side with NCR or the Legion. Should I just leave the quest alone, or am I going to be taking Hoover Dam with the NCR and double-crossing them when I kill of Caesar's command and activate the bunker?

[QUOTE=Schmaaa;46587900]So I'm doing the Yes Man ending for New Vegas, and I'm now doing For Auld Lang Syne, but my only options are to have the Remnants side with NCR or the Legion. Should I just leave the quest alone, or am I going to be taking Hoover Dam with the NCR and double-crossing them when I kill of Caesar's command and activate the bunker?[/QUOTE] in most cases you're gonna want to ask them to side with the ncr

[QUOTE=_charon;46586706]With Russia at least, no. I don't know exactly when but sometime before the Resource War all of Europe collapsed into chaos. Speaking of which, I had an interesting idea...I'm not personally a fan of the idea of a Fallout game outside North America, but if, as someone said here, they're stuck in 50sland because they've poured so much of their time and effort into war preparations, does that mean that the rest of the world progressed relatively normally? That would explain why the Chinese stealth armor is so very much not retro. Would be interesting to one day see parts of Mexico or something that look more 80s than 50s. [sp]also makes some of the random 80s elements i hear were in fallout 2 more fitting[/sp][/QUOTE] I was planning on doing something like that on my mod, since the setting takes place on an far off island from North America. I was thinking that the theme would be the gradual decline of the 50s, to the rise of the 60s, 70s and 80s, as the inhabitants found better alternatives to farming and improved manufacturing techniques, after salvaging the remains of the Poseidon Oil Rig and gaining classified documents and schematics on future projects.

[QUOTE=Schmaaa;46587900]So I'm doing the Yes Man ending for New Vegas, and I'm now doing For Auld Lang Syne, but my only options are to have the Remnants side with NCR or the Legion. Should I just leave the quest alone, or am I going to be taking Hoover Dam with the NCR and double-crossing them when I kill of Caesar's command and activate the bunker?[/QUOTE] Independence always revolves around aiding the the NCR in order to repel the legion, you can't really attack both. [sp]You betray the NCR shortly after when the robot army shows up at the legates camp, you can turn general oliver into gibs if you want[/sp] [editline]27th November 2014[/editline] An interesting playthrough for people who want to cause as much destruction as possible, is to go independent but aid the legion and do what the legion wants instead of doing the house/NCR objectives You basically turn the entire mojave into a disastrous nihilistic hellhole in terms of the endings you receive You also get some hilarious dialogue from Yes Man since he doesn't openly criticize you but always infers that what you are doing is really really stupid

[QUOTE=hypno-toad;46588635] You also get some hilarious dialogue from Yes Man since he doesn't openly criticize you but always infers that what you are doing is really really stupid[/QUOTE] Oh yeah, I noticed this with the Brotherhood of Steel. I told him to ignore them before I actually completed Still in the Dark, and he was just like "okay I guess we can ignore what will be possibly the largest military force in the mohave after we kick out the NCR yup nothin bad will happen lol"

[QUOTE=Schmaaa;46588709]Oh yeah, I noticed this with the Brotherhood of Steel. I told him to ignore them before I actually completed Still in the Dark, and he was just like "okay I guess we can ignore what will be possibly the largest military force in the mohave after we kick out the NCR yup nothin bad will happen lol"[/QUOTE] yeah yesman is especially nervous over the brotherhood of steel because of their for technology and yesman being quite the piece of technology.

I also feel like I'm one of the few people who didn't kick out McNamara which is good because he actually does change his mind about the lockdown after Still in the Dark, and lets you organize a cease-fire between them and the NCR

I'm pretty sure almost everyone didn't kick him out because I already got the feeling Hardin was obviously going to be an aggressive leader.

I never kicked him out. I just got frustrated when I tried to get rid of that computer virus.

i kicked him out because i didn't care about the bos at all in nv i just wanted the free power armor + training

I've a big issue with Honest Hearts. After killing/freeing Salt on Wounds, the prologue of Honest Hearts starts playing but crashes around 3 seconds after. Not entirely sure what's wrong, as I've never had this issue before and I've been using the same mods for years.

I didn't kick McNamara out because I didn't want Followers of Apocalypse to be killed. Plus Veronica clearly loves traveling and being outside the bunker. Im curious has anyone ever done a caesar play through. How much is changed if you go for caesar over the ncr/independent,

[QUOTE=Aide;46591381] Im curious has anyone ever done a caesar play through. How much is changed if you go for caesar over the ncr/independent,[/QUOTE] It feels sort of rushed IMO. You lose access to a great deal of quests, items and more and you get very little to replace them.

Legion is only fun if you plan on just waging a ceaseless and bloody guerrilla war of assassination, open combat and general treachery against the NCR for the duration of the game. It is kind of fun in that regard if you want lots of combat, but on that note legion really is a one track playthrough.

elder Mcnamara sides with the NCR and thus I found no reason to kick him out, plus I don't really like Hardin

a legion playthrough is fun to do once, but it locks you out of so much else that there's not really a point doing it more than once