Fallout Series Thread V14: When i entered this thread i was hoping there would be more gambling - Games

[QUOTE=Schmaaa;46748764]I kind of like Fallout 3 in the sense that it feels more complete. In New vegas, there are a lot of things that feel unfinished (like the entire Legion questline), not to mention there isn't even an objectively good ending because all of them are bad. I wanna make EVERYONE happy, dammit![/QUOTE] Dude, don't you ever dare to fucking touch Dragon Age or This war of mine

[QUOTE=Pops;46754600]yeah but the collar made you be more aware of your surroundings[/QUOTE] you can't have an opinion on the DLCs, you fucking killed the scientists on OWB.

[QUOTE=Starlight 456;46754584]It would be twice as good if they didn't have the [I]fucking exploding collars in it[/I] Like jesus fucking christ, way to bog down your well written and legitimately super atmospheric and creepy DLC with one of the most frustrating and just plain fucking bad gameplay elements I can think of in a long-ass time[/QUOTE] You must have really sucked at the DLC cause my head rarely explodes when I play it. Like how hard is it to just pay attention to your surroundings.

I just finished dead money today that shit was absolute garbage, I honestly cannot see how they would look at that and say "let's charge people money for this". There is not a single fucking thing that was fun or interesting about that DLC. Almost all the characters were fucking assholes (except for Christine and I guess Dog/God was okay, but good lord Dean was a fucking shitpile). Laser'd the FUCK out of Elijah and just took the gold because I honestly could not give less of a fuck about its goddamn moral lesson. I need SOMETHING to compensate me for this gigantic waste of time and effort. Not to mention that the basic thing failed to work half the time. I get about half of my usual framerate in that fucking town, plus it crashed about every half hour. And every single enemy was NOT fun to fight. Those gassuit zombies or whateverthefuck are fucking pieces of shit that are aggravating in every way. I HAVE A MOD ON THAT INCREASES DAMAGE FOR THE PLAYER AND NPCS AND IT STILL TOOK ME THREE FUCKING CYLINDERS OF PISTOL SHOOTING TO KILL THEM. OR AN ENTIRE MAG OF AUTO RIFLE SHOTS. OR THREE RELOADS WORTH OF HOLORIFLE SHOTS. Also, it's just plain stupid to put in enemies (holograms) that you HAVE to sneak around in a game where not everyone is going to be doing a stealth run. What the fuck were they thinking when they made this pile.

[QUOTE=UnidentifiedFlyingTard;46755966]You must have really sucked at the DLC cause my head rarely explodes when I play it. Like how hard is it to just pay attention to your surroundings.[/QUOTE] I pay attention to my surroundings, the problems arise when the fucking radios are tucked in some tiny corner, then for some reason don't explode until you shoot them 5 or 6 times because the collision models in Fallout NV extend about a foot beyond the actual model's end Regardless of awareness they really only make the experience worse, it feels less like part of the world and more like a bullshit gameplay element shoved in after playtesters were getting through it too easily

dead money is infinitely better the second playthrough tbh [editline]20th December 2014[/editline] once you've played it through and remember all the bullshitty parts its fine

[QUOTE=Schmaaa;46756003]I just finished dead money today that shit was absolute garbage, I honestly cannot see how they would look at that and say "let's charge people money for this". There is not a single fucking thing that was fun or interesting about that DLC. Almost all the characters were fucking assholes (except for Christine and I guess Dog/God was okay, but good lord Dean was a fucking shitpile). Laser'd the FUCK out of Elijah and just took the gold because I honestly could not give less of a fuck about its goddamn moral lesson. I need SOMETHING to compensate me for this gigantic waste of time and effort. Not to mention that the basic thing failed to work half the time. I get about half of my usual framerate in that fucking town, plus it crashed about every half hour. And every single enemy was NOT fun to fight. Those gassuit zombies or whateverthefuck are fucking pieces of shit that are aggravating in every way. I HAVE A MOD ON THAT INCREASES DAMAGE FOR THE PLAYER AND NPCS AND IT STILL TOOK ME THREE FUCKING CYLINDERS OF PISTOL SHOOTING TO KILL THEM. OR AN ENTIRE MAG OF AUTO RIFLE SHOTS. OR THREE RELOADS WORTH OF HOLORIFLE SHOTS. Also, it's just plain stupid to put in enemies (holograms) that you HAVE to sneak around in a game where not everyone is going to be doing a stealth run. What the fuck were they thinking when they made this pile.[/QUOTE] "Gas-suit zombies" are piss easy, even with all my combat realism mods that insta-kill me if I so much as get pushed wrong I was still crushing them beneath the awe inspiring power of my .22 pistol. Just aim for their limbs. And the holograms are stupid as fuck. I have 10 points in sneak, I simply don't do it, I find it pointless to be sneaky when I'm packing enough firepower to incinerate a city and enough hp to tank a Deathclaw. Just walk past the holograms and stamp on their projector. Easy. And finally your complaint about not listening or liking the message of dead money is dumb because the entire point of dead money is a story focused mission, turned cautionary tale about greed, lust, revenge and cruelty.

I liked how they created Dean as well, he was such an asshole that even if you were playing a goody two shoes who was nice to everyone you'd probably still end up insulting him at some point and [sp]have to kill him[/sp]

I always felt the ending was a tad anticlimatic. You escape the vault and reach the elevator only to suddenly teleport back to the place you started out in with all the other NPCs gone. Just seems like a really odd way for the main story to wrap up before the epilogue slideshow.

[QUOTE=_Maverick_;46756257]"Gas-suit zombies" are piss easy, even with all my combat realism mods that insta-kill me if I so much as get pushed wrong I was still crushing them beneath the awe inspiring power of my .22 pistol. Just aim for their limbs. And the holograms are stupid as fuck. I have 10 points in sneak, I simply don't do it, I find it pointless to be sneaky when I'm packing enough firepower to incinerate a city and enough hp to tank a Deathclaw. Just walk past the holograms and stamp on their projector. Easy. And finally your complaint about not listening or liking the message of dead money is dumb because the entire point of dead money is a story focused mission, turned cautionary tale about greed, lust, revenge and cruelty.[/QUOTE] I understood and like the message of dead money, but by the end of my playthrough I just didn't give a shit anymore. I may have implied that the characters were shitty; I meant that they were well-written characters, I just hated half of them because they were bitchy cunts who tried to fuck me over for trivial reasons. I was just completely aggravated and annoyed with every aspect of the gameplay by the end and I didn't want to walk away with just a few sets of clothes and some guns. By the time I got to the casino I was just running past all the enemies because they just had piss poor aim and weren't worth the bullets or effort to kill.

reaching the elevator basically is the end of the dlc, you only get dropped at the fountain in case you still have stuff to get from the villa and casino

I'm one of those losers that really likes when gameplay mechanics invoke a certain feeling, so even though the bomb collars in Dead Money were sometimes really frustrating, I absolutely loved how it makes you feel out of your element. Like, the entire point was that you were going from having absolute freedom in the wasteland to being dragged around like a dog a leash by the imminent threat of exploding. Since Elijah has you basically be his slave, the bomb collar mechanic really drove the point home and really made you feel that way. Plus it served as an interesting way to guide where they wanted to player to go. That and even on my first playthrough I didn't really have THAT much trouble with the radios. Just quick save often and be cautious and ready to double back when you hear the beeps and it's not really that hard.

[QUOTE=freaka;46753178]My experience so far with Fallout 2: I went to the Den and tried to kill Flick because he apperently got some nice loot if you manage kill him. So I went to his place and initiated combat, eventually making a critical hit on him and he well... fled for his life. When he fled he ran all the way up to Becky's for some odd reason. Instead of risking my whole progress I decided to quit combat and run away to east side of Den and wait for some time. Waited for 2 days and then went back into western Den. I managed to acquire a gun from a dead trapper earlier in the game and decided to try and use it on Flick. Flick, being the dick he is, runs out on the street and approach me. I shoot him, and somefucking how manage to hit a kid that was not even close to him. This made all of Den go apeshit and hate me. And now, I am hated in all of Den thanks to Flick.[/QUOTE] and this is why you lock the door behind you, [i]then[/i] blow Flick's brains out. thanks for the .44, sucker! [editline]20th December 2014[/editline] man how the fuck are you people so terrible at Dead Money? I thought I was bad at games, and DM wasn't that much of a challenge (and I play with jsawyer.esp and Hardcore mode on, to boot). I got the BAR and some hollowpoint rounds for the .38 and pretty much just owned every ghost person that came along in the face, and I only died to the radios like... twice. Only things I had problems with were the fucking holograms, and I only died like three or four times to them, too.

[QUOTE=Schmaaa;46756003]I just finished dead money today that shit was absolute garbage, I honestly cannot see how they would look at that and say "let's charge people money for this". There is not a single fucking thing that was fun or interesting about that DLC. Almost all the characters were fucking assholes (except for Christine and I guess Dog/God was okay, but good lord Dean was a fucking shitpile). Laser'd the FUCK out of Elijah and just took the gold because I honestly could not give less of a fuck about its goddamn moral lesson. I need SOMETHING to compensate me for this gigantic waste of time and effort. Not to mention that the basic thing failed to work half the time. I get about half of my usual framerate in that fucking town, plus it crashed about every half hour. And every single enemy was NOT fun to fight. Those gassuit zombies or whateverthefuck are fucking pieces of shit that are aggravating in every way. I HAVE A MOD ON THAT INCREASES DAMAGE FOR THE PLAYER AND NPCS AND IT STILL TOOK ME THREE FUCKING CYLINDERS OF PISTOL SHOOTING TO KILL THEM. OR AN ENTIRE MAG OF AUTO RIFLE SHOTS. OR THREE RELOADS WORTH OF HOLORIFLE SHOTS. Also, it's just plain stupid to put in enemies (holograms) that you HAVE to sneak around in a game where not everyone is going to be doing a stealth run. What the fuck were they thinking when they made this pile.[/QUOTE] thank you you get it the second paragraph is not reflective of my views (melee attacks were the easiest way to kill em and i enjoyed stealthing around the holograms until i found their generators and disabled them), but the first one sure is.

Am I the only one who liked every single DLC? Including Dead Money?

[QUOTE=UntouchedShadow;46757448]Am I the only one who liked every single DLC? Including Dead Money?[/QUOTE] No they're just morons

[QUOTE=UntouchedShadow;46757448]Am I the only one who liked every single DLC? Including Dead Money?[/QUOTE] When I was still on console, I bought Ultimate Edition and played the DLC all night because I was having a blast. They really add the missing links to the game.

[QUOTE=UntouchedShadow;46757448]Am I the only one who liked every single DLC? Including Dead Money?[/QUOTE] I loved all of them Honestly the weakest one to me was Honest Hearts cuz the loot and stuff wasn't really that cool, but I still enjoyed it

[QUOTE=coyote93;46757584]You are not. I enjoyed all of the dlc's the first time i played them. The only one that's get worse with time is HH, imo.[/QUOTE] honest hearts feels like there should be more to it but there isnt it's a linear dlc like dead money set in an open world like old world blues

My lest favorite NV DLC is probably Old World Blues, it was really neat and funny the first time I played it, but it has pretty much no replay value. [editline]20th December 2014[/editline] I can replay Dead Money a bunch, but Old World Blues always ends up feeling a chore when I replay it.

it's probably the best written of the dlcs (though they're all brilliantly written) but yeah its a bit boring at times. It's basically one giant fetch quest with loads of smaller side fetch quests

I personally wish Fallout had more survival elements to it, especially in a place like Dead Money.

Chiming in on the DLC discussion: Dead Money: I didn't like Dead Money all that much on the first play through; but I find it gets better with repeated play throughs. There's a lot of neat ideas in the DLC and I really love the story. Honest Hearts: The first time I played I remember it being pretty fun. I fucked up on my second play through almost immediately which resulted in me failing the entire thing (I could not do a single mission in the game because a NPC died). So that knocks it down a peg to the worst DLC (Still good though!) Old World Blues: It's Old World Blues. It's charming and funny. I do agree that the gameplay gets old after a little while because you're just doing a fetch quest, but a lively cast of characters makes it my favorite DLC. Lonesome Road: By far my favorite DLC if you're just considering the gameplay and loot you receive. It's very challenging, sometimes frustratingly so, but I don't consider that a negative. I might be dumb, but I still have difficulty understanding the story and background of the DLC. TL;DR: New Vegas is awesome and the DLC just makes it more awesome.

welp, finished honest hearts. i liked it, and now i'm roaming through the divide in joshua's armor with daniel's hat. what a great way to end the courier six subplot.

Speaking of DLC, I haven't played New Vegas for months because I'm stuck in OWB. No roboscorpions are spawning and I think there was something I had to do to progress that's broken. Does TTW fuck with the DLC at all? I know that until I installed some mod a while after, all robots were docile, maybe it's an extension of that glitch that removes the roboscorpions?

[QUOTE=ElectricSquid;46761186]Speaking of DLC, I haven't played New Vegas for months because I'm stuck in OWB. No roboscorpions are spawning and I think there was something I had to do to progress that's broken. Does TTW fuck with the DLC at all? I know that until I installed some mod a while after, all robots were docile, maybe it's an extension of that glitch that removes the roboscorpions?[/QUOTE] I think it may depend on what level you are. Actually, that affects most of the enemies you encounter in the DLC iirc. I remember one time playing Old World Blues and facing tons of roboscorpions. Then another time they very rarely made an appearance. Someone correct me if I'm being stupid.

[QUOTE=Inspector Jones;46761531]I think it may depend on what level you are. Actually, that affects most of the enemies you encounter in the DLC iirc. I remember one time playing Old World Blues and facing tons of roboscorpions. Then another time they very rarely made an appearance. Someone correct me if I'm being stupid.[/QUOTE] I'm playing it near max-level. Might've just been my amount of progression in OWB, I picked the game up again after posting it and there were roboscorpions out the wazoo.

[QUOTE=Inspector Jones;46761531]I think it may depend on what level you are. Actually, that affects most of the enemies you encounter in the DLC iirc. I remember one time playing Old World Blues and facing tons of roboscorpions. Then another time they very rarely made an appearance. Someone correct me if I'm being stupid.[/QUOTE] no that's about right i was somewhere in the late 20s or early 30s levels when i did OWB and really only fought roboscorpions after plowing through a building or two for quests.

Depends where you go too. Like if you go anywhere near the Forbidden Zone (The Zone that is, yes, Forbidden to You) you'll see a lot of Roboscorpions

I remember this one vivid encounter with a Sentry Bot in Fallout 3. I thought it was an easy kill until it fired 3 rockets in a row, crippling all my limbs and knocking me back 'til kingdom comes.