I never seem to do well as Kassadin, his kit feels good but I have trouble managing my riftwalk stacks. I either jump into a fight and deal no damage, or I nuke everything and die immediately after.
[QUOTE=cyclocius;41356232]I never seem to do well as Kassadin, his kit feels good but I have trouble managing my riftwalk stacks. I either jump into a fight and deal no damage, or I nuke everything and die immediately after.[/QUOTE]
I have the same, there's always the problem where I just suck in his laning phase and only catch up after the laning phase. I love Kassadin but he has huge cooldown and shit so I feel all I can do is Riftwalk near someone, nuke people then hope I don't die or that my team wins the teamfight.
[QUOTE=Heigou;41356367]I have the same, there's always the problem where I just suck in his laning phase and only catch up after the laning phase. I love Kassadin but he has huge cooldown and shit so I feel all I can do is Riftwalk near someone, nuke people then hope I don't die or that my team wins the teamfight.[/QUOTE]
Zhonya's?
[QUOTE=ColdFusion;41354405]I would get BRK over BT on ezreal any day.[/QUOTE]
Why, Ezreal is more ability based and poke based; the straight AD from BT would be best on him. And since everyone just said that building AS relatively useless on him, it makes BotRK even worse.
Since everyone else said it, that makes it fact.
I play with Cold all the time, while he might be a horrible player and everything is his fault he does know how to play Ezreal someties like he did well one game
But BotRKs active is fucking amazing and the % dmg procs on Q, BotRK isnt just about the attack speed you know. There is a thing called situational building and its not set in stone to build an ADC in a certain way, Ezreal does actually have an autoattack in case you didnt know and if you're neglecting that fact because "lol he has short cd poke why would u aa go play a real adc if u want shit items like that"
Mind you Cold is assbackwards and still builds triforce on Ez so who the fuck knows
[QUOTE=Pie108;41357050]Why, Ezreal is more ability based and poke based; the straight AD from BT would be best on him. And since everyone just said that building AS relatively useless on him, it makes BotRK even worse.[/QUOTE]
Because you don't build crit and you don't have any AD scaling spells other then your ult.
I don't see how BT benefits his poke more then BRK does either.
I don't think you can get away with 0AS anymore since they nerfed his passive.
So especially if you go CDR boots the AS isn't a bad deal.
[QUOTE=ColdFusion;41357221]Because you don't build crit and you don't have any AD scaling spells other then your ult.
I don't see how BT benefits his poke more then BRK does either.
I don't think you can get away with 0AS anymore since they nerfed his passive.
So especially if you go CDR boots the AS isn't a bad deal.[/QUOTE]
His Q scales with AD.
corki shits out damage and mana
Huh
I just realized I still have Elise after like a year of buying her with IP, refunding her, and still having her.
Is trying to play her a good idea? Also how do you guys react to after game screenshots?
[QUOTE=Heigou;41357344]His Q scales with AD.[/QUOTE]
It scales 100% with ad but also applies on hit effects much like an actual auto attack.
So when i compare a BT to BRK it isn't important information.
I already had a feeling somebody was gone bring this up, i should have mentioned it.
[QUOTE=MrHeadHopper;41357587]Huh
I just realized I still have Elise after like a year of buying her with IP, refunding her, and still having her.
Is trying to play her a good idea? Also how do you guys react to after game screenshots?[/QUOTE]
I think FP is fine with them as long as you are asking about something and not simply posting series of screenshots complaining about teams/saying how good you are
plat on 2 accounts now
plat + plat = challenger
my friend was making fun of me yesterday for playing swain so much
we duo a lot and i'm thinking about running adc swain just to fuck with him
i'm thinking something like frozen heart, fmallet, sheen, and then like warmog/sunfire/hexdrinker
E would amp sheen proc damage, Q W means you'll be able to smack them around for quite a while, and ult sustain would be just as useful as always. one big problem though is that swain tends to jump into fights, so he'd be really hard to peel for.
this is probably a bad idea.
[QUOTE=Zinayzen;41357746]my friend was making fun of me yesterday for playing swain so much
we duo a lot and i'm thinking about running adc swain just to fuck with him
i'm thinking something like frozen heart, fmallet, sheen, and then like warmog/sunfire/hexdrinker
E would amp sheen proc damage, Q W means you'll be able to smack them around for quite a while, and ult sustain would be just as useful as always. one big problem though is that swain tends to jump into fights, so he'd be really hard to peel for.
this is probably a bad idea.[/QUOTE]
how is that adc
are you talking about the same kind of adc as i'm thinking, because i don't think so
[editline]8th July 2013[/editline]
you have two items with ad on that list, zinayzen pls ur hurting me
i never said i was good at this
i thought it was that was a given by now
[editline]8th July 2013[/editline]
you can't build him like cait or something because he needs to get close in to the action and shit without instantly blowing up
[QUOTE=ColdFusion;41357221]Because you don't build crit and you don't have any AD scaling spells other then your ult.
I don't see how BT benefits his poke more then BRK does either.
I don't think you can get away with 0AS anymore since they nerfed his passive.
So especially if you go CDR boots the AS isn't a bad deal.[/QUOTE]
How would BT not benefit his poke more than Bork? Bork gives you 25 attack damage and 5% damage on hit. Consider a health of 2000, this would give you 125 damage, and that's only at max health. At 1500 health, you break even, and then it starts to go down. The active gives you three auto attacks worth of % damage, so theoretically you use the active at max health on a 2000 health enemy with 100 armour, you removed 7.5% of their HP, and now you can begin attacking to a point where your autos with the attack speed are less effective than 75 more AD. This is all based on Mystic Shot damage.
In a real game, from 1100 range, you outrange every auto attack in the game at a 3 second cooldown, and it also procs Bork if you hit it. This leads to a 2.7 cooldown with a staple item such as Iceborn Gauntlet. Concerning only the raw damage of each item, poking a 4000 HP champion with 200 armour, 130 after being reduced by Last Whisper still leads to 56.5% damage blocking. 225 damage reduced will be reduced to 98 damage from Bork. 100 damage from BT will be reduced to 45 damage. At 2000 HP, Bork will do 45 damage, and break even again.
For 53% of this tank's health, you will be doing more poke damage with a Bork Mystic Shot than you would with BT. But for a 2000 HP champion, you will be doing more poke damage with Mystic Shot than a BT. But again, how fast will you do the damage and what is the HP of the opponent?
At Level 18, an Ashe with 105 armour from runes, masteries, and Aegis, after being reduced to 68, will be taking 40% of incoming damage. She will also have 1817 HP. A Level 18 Ezreal with a base +27 AD from runes and masteries, a Bloodthirster, base AD and Last Whisper, you will have 268 AD. Mystic Shot will deal a total of 383 damage, which will be reduced to 153. After two shots, you are virtually doing more damage with BT, doing more damage for 75% of Ashe's health. You're obviously not going to poke her until she dies, but in three shots, your total poke is 459.
And lastly, a full ult on that Ashe with 90 MR (masteries, runes, and Bulwark) will do around 324 damage with Bork, and it'll do enough damage to give you more efficiency with BT.
In short, BT is stronger sub 1500 HP, which is where squishier champions will be at if you poke hard. Combined with Jayce or Nidalee, BT is the stronger raw poke choice, not considering anything like the peel that Bork will give you. Oh, and I'm [url=http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/23065707#profile]Diamond 1,[/url] but that doesn't necessarily make or break my mathcrafting.
[QUOTE=Zinayzen;41357827]i never said i was good at this
i thought it was that was a given by now
[editline]8th July 2013[/editline]
you can't build him like cait or something because he needs to get close in to the action and shit without instantly blowing up[/QUOTE]
robertxlee played adc dingerdonger bot when he was leveling his alt, anything is possible sonny
i pray to jesus every night but he still rubs his dick on my matchmaking
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[QUOTE=Zorus;41357863]How would BT not benefit his poke more than Bork? Bork gives you 25 attack damage and 5% damage on hit. Consider a health of 2000, this would give you 125 damage, and that's only at max health. At 1500 health, you break even, and then it starts to go down. The active gives you three auto attacks worth of % damage, so theoretically you use the active at max health on a 2000 health enemy with 100 armour, you removed 7.5% of their HP, and now you can begin attacking to a point where your autos with the attack speed are less effective than 75 more AD. This is all based on Mystic Shot damage.
In a real game, from 1100 range, you outrange every auto attack in the game at a 3 second cooldown, and it also procs Bork if you hit it. This leads to a 2.7 cooldown with a staple item such as Iceborn Gauntlet. Concerning only the raw damage of each item, poking a 4000 HP champion with 200 armour, 130 after being reduced by Last Whisper still leads to 56.5% damage blocking. 225 damage reduced will be reduced to 98 damage from Bork. 100 damage from BT will be reduced to 45 damage. At 2000 HP, Bork will do 45 damage, and break even again.
For 53% of this tank's health, you will be doing more poke damage with a Bork Mystic Shot than you would with BT. But for a 2000 HP champion, you will be doing more poke damage with Mystic Shot than a BT. But again, how fast will you do the damage and what is the HP of the opponent?
At Level 18, an Ashe with 105 armour from runes, masteries, and Aegis, after being reduced to 68, will be taking 40% of incoming damage. She will also have 1817 HP. A Level 18 Ezreal with a base +27 AD from runes and masteries, a Bloodthirster, base AD and Last Whisper, you will have 268 AD. Mystic Shot will deal a total of 383 damage, which will be reduced to 153. After two shots, you are virtually doing more damage with BT, doing more damage for 75% of Ashe's health. You're obviously not going to poke her until she dies, but in three shots, your total poke is 459.
And lastly, a full ult on that Ashe with 90 MR (masteries, runes, and Bulwark) will do around 324 damage with Bork, and it'll do enough damage to give you more efficiency with BT.
In short, BT is stronger sub 1500 HP, which is where squishier champions will be at if you poke hard. Combined with Jayce or Nidalee, BT is the stronger raw poke choice, not considering anything like the peel that Bork will give you. Oh, and I'm [url=http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/23065707#profile]Diamond 1,[/url] but that doesn't necessarily make or break my mathcrafting.[/QUOTE]
You explained it better then I ever could.
[QUOTE=Feralicous;41357944]i pray to jesus every night but he still rubs his dick on my matchmaking
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/RV1A37Z.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Sorry its not a matchmaking bug you seem to have actually duo'd with Flashcat by choice, are you sure you arent drunk or high
[QUOTE=Pie108;41357974]You explained it better then I ever could.[/QUOTE]
It's honestly really fun to use high school Chem math concepts in application to other things. Makes all the time you spent doing shit in class go to use.
Yeah but then you realise its on a videogame and the guy probably doesn't listen or care about what you have to say and is based on MUH OPTIMAL CONDITIONS
Cold still gonna build Botrk on Ezreal and hes decent at it so im not complaining
botrk vs bt discussion is weird in case of ezreal as he has mediocre AD scalings but he isnt auto attack orientated
Autoattack ezreal goes well with BotRK because it's better on autoattacks.
BT always was and always will be better for abilities because of the pure AD it gives you, making it better for poke/early game on champions like Graves, Ezreal.
This isn't rocket science, people figured it out in season 2 where you either went IE or BT depending on what your main source of damage was.
[QUOTE=Zorus;41357863]How would BT not benefit his poke more than Bork? Bork gives you 25 attack damage and 5% damage on hit. Consider a health of 2000, this would give you 125 damage, and that's only at max health. At 1500 health, you break even, and then it starts to go down. The active gives you three auto attacks worth of % damage, so theoretically you use the active at max health on a 2000 health enemy with 100 armour, you removed 7.5% of their HP, and now you can begin attacking to a point where your autos with the attack speed are less effective than 75 more AD. This is all based on Mystic Shot damage.
In a real game, from 1100 range, you outrange every auto attack in the game at a 3 second cooldown, and it also procs Bork if you hit it. This leads to a 2.7 cooldown with a staple item such as Iceborn Gauntlet. Concerning only the raw damage of each item, poking a 4000 HP champion with 200 armour, 130 after being reduced by Last Whisper still leads to 56.5% damage blocking. 225 damage reduced will be reduced to 98 damage from Bork. 100 damage from BT will be reduced to 45 damage. At 2000 HP, Bork will do 45 damage, and break even again.
For 53% of this tank's health, you will be doing more poke damage with a Bork Mystic Shot than you would with BT. But for a 2000 HP champion, you will be doing more poke damage with Mystic Shot than a BT. But again, how fast will you do the damage and what is the HP of the opponent?
At Level 18, an Ashe with 105 armour from runes, masteries, and Aegis, after being reduced to 68, will be taking 40% of incoming damage. She will also have 1817 HP. A Level 18 Ezreal with a base +27 AD from runes and masteries, a Bloodthirster, base AD and Last Whisper, you will have 268 AD. Mystic Shot will deal a total of 383 damage, which will be reduced to 153. After two shots, you are virtually doing more damage with BT, doing more damage for 75% of Ashe's health. You're obviously not going to poke her until she dies, but in three shots, your total poke is 459.
And lastly, a full ult on that Ashe with 90 MR (masteries, runes, and Bulwark) will do around 324 damage with Bork, and it'll do enough damage to give you more efficiency with BT.
In short, BT is stronger sub 1500 HP, which is where squishier champions will be at if you poke hard. Combined with Jayce or Nidalee, BT is the stronger raw poke choice, not considering anything like the peel that Bork will give you. Oh, and I'm [URL="http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/23065707#profile"]Diamond 1,[/URL] but that doesn't necessarily make or break my mathcrafting.[/QUOTE]
BRK deals more damage then BT atm your enemies have a AVG of 1800-3000 health (depending on BT stacks).
Now this is pretty 'meh' atm you 100%-0% people, but in a poking situation people will backoff/get-intiated-on at about 1/3 of their HP, so the actual breaking point is quite a bit lower.
Imagine you poke somebody from 3k to 1k health and then they back off, your AVG BRK damage was 125 damage per hit thats quite al ot more then the BT 70-100 damage per hit, and then you haven't even used the active or the as yet
[QUOTE=Louis;41357979]Sorry its not a matchmaking bug you seem to have actually duo'd with Flashcat by choice, are you sure you arent drunk or high[/QUOTE]
i feel sorry for the poor guy
[editline]8th July 2013[/editline]
you're all nerds
[QUOTE=Feralicous;41358229]i feel sorry for the poor guy
[/QUOTE]
excuse me, mr hookcity 101
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4th win in a row.
And I'm still only getting 3-4 LP per win.
Hello you're all wrong i am profesionel ezrelae player and this is how you're supposed to play israel
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thank you from now on im going to call him israel
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