League of Legends v33 - Games

rengar "rework" [quote]General - Health Regen, Health Regen/lvl, and Health/lvl all increased Unseen Predator -Now becomes visible at the beginning of the leap, rather than midleap Savagery - Attack Speed reinstated, -slight- buff to %AS, -slight- nerf to base damage. Ferocity Bonus: Savagery - In addition to dealing bonus damage, grants Rengar 3 Ferocity. Battle Roar - Damage increased - Cooldown decreased - No longer grants Armor/MR - instead grants damage reduction from Physical Damage/Basic Attacks Ferocity Bonus: Battle Roar - Heal unchanged - Now deals damage based on Rengar's level Bola Strike - Damage increased - Bonus AD Ratio increased Ferocity Bonus: Bola Strike - Now deals damage based on Rengar's level - Root duration increased Thrill of the Hunt - Cooldown decreased - Duration increased - Movement speed increased - Enemies will now receive a particle over their head when Rengar can see them; Additionally, Enemies will hear Voice Over on activation if they are in Rengar's sight range (roughly 1000) when he casts Thrill of the Hunt[/quote] [url]http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3667905[/url] other than the changes to his passive and the last change to his ult i'm totally okay with this

Yeah kinda defeats the purpose of a stealth ability when your enemies can see they're being targeted.

[QUOTE=Tacooo;41512736]Who is the best/easiest ADC to learn the role with. I'm not new to the game I just hate that fucking role with a burning passion and would rather eat myself with my own asshole than play it. But I have to learn it.[/QUOTE] Cait's probably the easiest. Traps are basically free wards (sort of) and Net makes it hard for people to catch you. I guess, I don't own a ton of them. Draven's probably the most fun but he's hard to learn.

[QUOTE=Tacooo;41512736]Who is the best/easiest ADC to learn the role with. I'm not new to the game I just hate that fucking role with a burning passion and would rather eat myself with my own asshole than play it. But I have to learn it.[/QUOTE] ezreal is the most forgiving but doesn't scale as well as most into lategame IMO caitlyn is really safe thanks to her range/escape/traps and is good at every stage of the match

[QUOTE=Novangel;41512830]Yeah kinda defeats the purpose of a stealth ability when your enemies can see they're being targeted.[/QUOTE] He's still unpredictable and impossible to target since it's within 1000 range so he can still end up right beside your squishy people but at least they'll have a chance other than "Does he kill me 1 second?" and that deciding what happens in the teamfight. They also said they're trying to make him more of a fighter than a one hit kill assassin. [editline]19th July 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Tacooo;41512736]Who is the best/easiest ADC to learn the role with. I'm not new to the game I just hate that fucking role with a burning passion and would rather eat myself with my own asshole than play it. But I have to learn it.[/QUOTE] Don't just look for the easiest to play, if you're looking for fun I'd go for Draven/Varus. Once you get used to them they're incredibly rewarding and fun.

Got Taric recently. He's actually a pretty fun support.

[QUOTE=Novangel;41512830]Yeah kinda defeats the purpose of a stealth ability when your enemies can see they're being targeted.[/QUOTE] I'm fine with it Eve rework was to counter the same problem

[QUOTE=Zorus;41510714]it never gets better[/QUOTE] oh bool

[QUOTE=Jund;41512925]I'm fine with it Eve rework was to counter the same problem[/QUOTE] I suppose it's similar to Nocturne ult, except Nocturne signals to everyone, not just those in range.

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/zXWSCtJ.jpg?1[/IMG] Sometimes i feel like i dont belong in Bronze V

[QUOTE=Vengeful Falcon;41512916]He's still unpredictable and impossible to target since it's within 1000 range so he can still end up right beside your squishy people but at least they'll have a chance other than "Does he kill me 1 second?" and that deciding what happens in the teamfight. [b]They also said they're trying to make him more of a fighter than a one hit kill assassin.[/b] [/QUOTE] This is my problem with the suggested rework, every fucking champion in the game is a bruiser and it doesn't suit Rengar's character at all to be up there in the front lines tanking damage, he's a hunter.

i feel like a hipster. i liked rengar when everyone was saying he's useless after the nerf and before the fotm storm fuck this rework RIP blowing shit up by smacking face on Q key eight times

[QUOTE=polarbear.;41514520]i feel like a hipster. i liked rengar when everyone was saying he's useless after the nerf and before the fotm storm fuck this rework RIP blowing shit up by smacking face on Q key eight times[/QUOTE] some people like to play rengar and everybody hates playing against him riot is fucking up yet again by buffing his w damage

Don't like the whole thing how riot has gimped all of the stealth champs besides like, shaco I guess.

[QUOTE=polarbear.;41514520]RIP blowing shit up by smacking face on Q key eight times[/QUOTE] That's ryze you just described though

[QUOTE=evilweazel;41514776]Don't like the whole thing how riot has gimped all of the stealth champs besides like, shaco I guess.[/QUOTE] stealth is a pretty toxic mechanic and its very good that riot is making it so it requires some strategy to pull off something with it i still hate akali's shroud and wukong's decoy because of how brainless they are to use [editline]19th July 2013[/editline] stealth is why i dont play dota 2 fuck that shit

At least in DotA 2 anti-stealth items are piss-cheap, usually. A dust of appearance will fuck any and all stealth character over for a good while.

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;41514788]That's ryze you just described though[/QUOTE] no, with ryze you have to hit all 4 keys instead of 1 that shit aint easy if you have a small forehead

I don't know, I never had a huge problem with stealth, it punished you if you weren't careful enough but otherwise a pink ward could tell you when eve/twitch/etc were coming in. Just kinda worried about them making rengar into another generic fighter instead of an assassin like he should be.

Stealth characters are so useless in ARAM and 3v3 thanks to lightbringer. I wish they included some sort of similar item with an active that lets you see stealthed units for like 30 seconds at most and has a super long cooldown.

Honestly I don't have a problem with most of the stealth in the game at the moment now that I think about it, besides I guess Eve's. I always felt like it was kind of redundant considering the sight range on it is too long in my opinion, and the thing that really had me worrying about it was how they were considering on the forums for rengars ult. I get that getting instagibbed out of no where isn't much fun, but I think making stealth not even hide you effectively save for the odd ward here or there is kinda pointless. Just that most of the stuff riot considers for champions are kind of strange to me I guess.

[url=http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=39888174#39888174]Another post on the Rengar changes[/url] [quote="Scarizard"]I'll update the original post as well, but the changes look something like: Savagery - Attack Speed reinstated, -slight- buff to %AS, -slight- nerf to base damage. Empowered Savagery - In addition to dealing bonus damage, grants Rengar 3 Ferocity. So what does this mean? Basically, Rengar's Empowered Savagery sets him up for a potential Ryze-like spell chain. Feedback from this thread has been that (Triple Q or no), you guys really like stabbing. With this setup, you can Q2 -> Q, W, -> Q2, E. Q ->Q2 again, with a higher degree of Attack Speed than before. I've played around with the changes a bit with a few people and i have to say it looks pretty awesome tbh. You lie in wait, ready for the kill....and then you proceed to maul your target's face off. Another cool thing about the 'Q-Train' as Volty calls it, is that you can end the cycle at any point with Empowered Battle Roar or Emp. Bola strike and call it a day, winning trades or flatly disengaging. We still need to see what this does in laning situations, but from i can tell it drastically increases his engagement windows but highly rewards him for 'keeping up' his combos - all while hacking away like a madman. I suspect it will be slightly OP with this version, but we can always tune. One idea we had is to slightly lower the damage further of Empowered Savagery, but instead have it apply a debuff making your next Emp. Savagery deal 50% more damage (probably only stacks 3 times?). This option feels unnecessary at -this- point, but can proceed to it if his laning is obnoxious but we like the pattern of Q2. Also drives home a lot of the 'single-target mauling predator' feel if you can single out your prey and make their lives hell. Feeling more confident about this version, but everything is always subject to change. Could possibly see Bola's slow% being increased to accomodate Rengar's knifing around if he's having too much trouble gettin' to the folks he needs. Looking into using Battle Roar as a slot to provide a mechanic that helps him survive endgame without making his solo/dueling cases feel unbeatable - some of you guys have suggested a Wukong-like 'Less defense, but stacking with nearby targets' and i'd like to try it and see how it goes.[/quote] also, talking about possible Bonetooth Necklace reworks (it does seem a little useless as of now) [quote="Scarizard"]Catching this before i leave - i think something like this sounds really cool. I know i mentioned earlier that we were looking at +MS% in brush. What do people think about similar version? 'Rengar gains X movement speed while not visible to the enemy team (or out of combat). This bonus is doubled while Rengar is in brush.' ?[/quote] That bonetooth buff (plus them talking about making it build from Hunter's Machete) seems like a massive buff to jungle Rengar, which really seems like the place he should be in, not in top lane bursting people's faces off.

Don't even know why I'm so worried I don't even play rengar often. I guess I just like his play style a lot, save a few things.

[img]http://i.imgur.com/qq8gUd4.png[/img] This dude is so underused. I've only lost once in 9 games and I'm a bronze V scrub :D

He's probably going to be a bit more played when the visual rework comes. I'm sure there's a number of people who don't play him because he looks like a pack of dry, uncooked noodles.

Due to this new Udyr skin everyone is playing or wants to play him and he's just bulldozing lanes. It's giving me quite the headache because it seems my Udyr is just terrible and theirs is always good and feeds their carrys.

I think he means his team's Udyr.

My friend played with some Udyr that had a tampon jammed up his asshole. [img]http://i.imgur.com/0djnw3g.png[/img] [url=http://i.imgur.com/9UhiKaZ.png]TLDR[/url]

I keep messing up my pre 6 kills as Zed so I get boned mid game with no snowball Like I would get them to 50 hp and then flash in the opposite direction No more playing at midnight for me

[img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59389727/LoL/maybeitllwork.PNG[/img] maybe these guys will be really good! OR maybe I'll disconnect in loading screen, come into game 3 minutes late (thankfully the game is still 0/0, but it looks like the enemy adc stole our red), get a doublekill bot lane without my support, and then end the game at 5/2 with the total team k/d at 9/20. Maybe that'll happen. How are these people even level 30?