[QUOTE=ashxu;41560103]Right now it takes 50 souls to reduce the soul worth down to 0.75. It's a power shift that nerfs his early more than late though. You have to also consider Thresh can get a lot souls from laning phrase while late game he doesn't get to get as many souls.[/QUOTE]
I'm thinking more of how long it takes to get to late game, with that much time he already gets a ton of souls.
[QUOTE=Conficker.exe;41559950]rip bulwark[/QUOTE]
I'm okay with rip bulwark as long as BV is cost efficient
Buying Bulwark on Shyvana felt like a pain because screw teams
[QUOTE=Pie108;41559882]That Thresh change, oh my god. Late game he'll be even more of a monster; the armor/ap per soul is flat without diminishing for those who haven't checked yet.
And what were everyone's thoughts on Karma mid; she's feeling like my most comfortable mid laner right now, though I typically have a farm lane while I poke them out of the lane.[/QUOTE]
They reduced his armor and hp again, he is going to be squishier that sona early.
To be trully effective he needs to be very close/melee range to the enemy. So yeah..
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[QUOTE=Pie108;41560458]I'm thinking more of how long it takes to get to late game, with that much time he already gets a ton of souls.[/QUOTE]
Souls drop rate is normalized with the number of souls thresh has: if he has very few for that moment in the match, the drop rate goes up, if he has too many, they pretty much don't drop unless you kill big minions and champs.
I'd rather they nerf the lantern
"hey im gonna cc you up the butthole then pull my jungler from halfway across the map i hope you don't mind"
[QUOTE=Jund;41560908]I'd rather they nerf the lantern
"hey im gonna cc you up the butthole then pull my jungler from halfway across the map i hope you don't mind"[/QUOTE]
There is not much they can do to nerf it. They can't reduce the range nor increase the cd.
It has a pretty high cd and somewhat high mana cost. He needs it to check bushes (he can use his hook, but it can miss and it's better to save it for when you are certain it'll land.) pick distant souls else he falls behind.
If you fear that thresh wants to do that, force him to waste his lamp constantly (to escape, to pick souls, to save people or to check bushes, etc.).
You can also ward to see if their jungler is going to try that.
"Oh hey, I'm feeling pretty good today, lets play some league, might be fun!"
And then fate hands me a kassadin that had 22 CS when we surrendered at 25 minutes
"well never mind, then!"
Disable lantern usage if the target is CC'd, soft or hard?
I think silence stops you from clicking the lantern
can't remember if that's true though
[QUOTE=ashxu;41561824]I think silence stops you from clicking the lantern
can't remember if that's true though[/QUOTE]
yes
nice gintama avatar
[QUOTE=Jund;41560908]I'd rather they nerf the lantern
"hey im gonna cc you up the butthole then pull my jungler from halfway across the map i hope you don't mind"[/QUOTE]
the rest of Thresh is fine, but lantern is one of the stupidest abilities in the game
What's pure AP jax build? Like no AS.
Whenever somebody calls me bad I just listen to Michael Jackson's "I'm Bad" and BOOM I play like I'm bad(ass).
I wish enemies could ride Thresh's lantern. It'd add a whole new layer of risk/reward to the skill.
Is trying to save your teammate worth it when you might pull death towards you? :v:
[QUOTE=rapperkid04;41562619]I wish enemies could ride Thresh's lantern. It'd add a whole new layer of risk/reward to the skill.
Is trying to save your teammate worth it when you might pull death towards you? :v:[/QUOTE]
considering it'd take both players to the same spot it'd probably be a gamble on your teammate's life
so you wouldnt have to worry just about greedy adcs, you'd have to worry about thresh players who are greedy on your behalf :v:
[QUOTE=rapperkid04;41562619]I wish enemies could ride Thresh's lantern. It'd add a whole new layer of risk/reward to the skill.
Is trying to save your teammate worth it when you might pull death towards you? :v:[/QUOTE]
Then people would use it to bait idiots into their tower. (in casual matches people would rightclick atleast oncce, in ranked you could use it to block last hits or still save an ally, since you are pulling the enemy to you, and usually the support's death is much less important that the carry's and even then thresh can defend himself or atleast push them away and escape, etc, etc. ) (this might be overthinking, but it's always a good idea to think of everything that X ability can possibly do.)
why not just allow people to attack the lantern
Lantern should have a 1% chance of ripping a hole in the fabric of timespace itself and switching the player who grabs it with a random player from another game of LoL...
Or even another game entirely... You're relaxing with a nice friendly game of Solitaire? TOO BAD... AP Yi up in your face...
I thin something kinda simple like switching places with whoever grabs the lantern would be fine, or having a shorter range.
Or just the ability to interrupt someone taking the lantern, or even make the projectile speed of a lantern being pulled slower.
Silences stop you from grabbing the lantern.
Yes but I'm talking about the guy the lantern being able to get knocked up or something to interrupt it.
And the traveling itself being slower too.
Many stuns and roots while travelling work so it stuns you at the end of a travel, if you got stunned while travelling. Think Aatrox q, Caitlyn e. They get stunned/slowed when the travel has ended.
[QUOTE=MrFlashcat;41563557]Or just the ability to interrupt someone taking the lantern, or even make the projectile speed of a lantern being pulled slower.[/QUOTE]
You can stand on the lamp and the enemy can't click it.
I was thinking that "maybe if they made it so that you can't click it if an enemy is inside the green ring of the lamp", but that would kill the main point of the lamp and would still allow the "pull you junglers out of your ass" thing, and the inverse (only being able to use the map if an enemy is in it's range) would be stupid.
I still think that the lamp is fine. Just because you actually have to think to counter it doesn't mean it's bad.
It's like the argument about "Invisibility being "toxic"" from a few pages ago.
Tiger Stance Udyr is just so fucking awesome. Cant wait for Phoenix Udyrs running Dorans..
New haunting guise icon
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I kinda like the old one more though
I don't see why they had to go and completely redo the designs instead of just improving the general art.
what the fuck theres going to be heaps of items that don't fit in with the style if they update them like that.
Well ability icon quality goes from what the new champions get to Twisted Fate's Destiny. I'm sure you won't be too bothered.
[QUOTE=Pat.Lithium;41564490]what the fuck theres going to be heaps of items that don't fit in with the style if they update them like that.[/QUOTE]
They'll obviously update all the icons eventually to match the new style. I just don't like that new style.
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