Been testing out Champions, seeing whose play style I enjoy. I bought Warwick (cause he's a Werewolf) but he doesnt seem good until he's levelled up a bit. Is he worth learning how to play properly?
I also bought Udyr, I like him a lot more, just gotta get more familiar.
I'd like a ranged class just for variety too. Which Champs are worth buying that are 1350 IP or less?
Warwick isn't very good right now. Udyr is a lot better if you're going to jungle.
teemo, ryze, kayle if you count her as ranged
Janna best 1350 IP champ
[QUOTE=.apex;41822052]teemo, ryze, kayle if you count her as ranged[/QUOTE]
all those champions don't fit "ranged" very well lol
teemo has a short AA range, ryze is short ranged too and kayle has an okay range but it only lasts for 8 seconds.
Sadly I think most ADCs are 6300.
He asked for ranged not marksmen specifically
if its ranged its.. ranged, it he meant long-range specifically he could've said so
but if you want something that has longer range or something, Caitlyn, lux, jayce
Took a pause from this game, seems to have worked, had a lot of fun in the very first match in quite some time.
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It even was a loss. I don't think I ever got honour for a loss before.
[QUOTE=RidingKeys;41822053]Janna best 1350 IP champ[/QUOTE]
Agree so much, such a fantastic hero. Picked her up at summoner level 5 or something, very lucky, because she's an immense help at learning so many mechanics of the game. Very rewarding gameplay for a general purpose support as well.
I'm very happy that she's getting a legendary skin, I might buy it even though I never wanted to spend more than 487 RP on anything...
[QUOTE=ashxu;41822075]Sadly I think most ADCs are 6300.[/QUOTE]
my favourite is Twitch and he's only 3150
there aren't very many at 1350 or less though
Is Skarner really as shit as people make him out to be?
Cause he seems like fun.
the nerf to his ult gutted him and he's basically in the same position as shyvana
he was REALLY good in season 2, then they changed the jungle and made champions that were better than him. Also his E is still worthless.
got a quadra first time vayne but i felt like i was doing terrible the entire game
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;41821819][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxkZyT5hliU[/media]
This playing through the entire match.[/QUOTE]
dude why would you have that version playing there isnt even any vocals
it has to be this one
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNb6Wvn68Vw[/media]
[QUOTE=RidingKeys;41822330]got a quadra first time vayne but i felt like i was doing terrible the entire game[/QUOTE]
sums up vayne pretty well
[QUOTE=papaya;41822326]the nerf to his ult gutted him and he's basically in the same position as shyvana
he was REALLY good in season 2, then they changed the jungle and made champions that were better than him. Also his E is still worthless.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't say Shyvana's that useless any more, the last set of changes to her helped her a lot.
That's a shame though, I wish I was here for Season 2. Carry junglers seemed to have an all around better time and they're much more interesting to play than the typical tanky junglers.
I remember when skarner came out and people tried to play him top
It was like, you win your lane even if he goes 20/0 because he couldn't do shit, then they buffed him and made him aight
his item builds were really weird from what i remember, dont see many hybrid builds anymore
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He would be god tier jungler if Thresh was in s2 with those ganks tho
Pretty sure I'm buying Trynd with IP so I can buy that Sultan skin. Would be my first skin bought.
Shyvana is pretty big on the Chinese competitive scene so I wouldn't say she's trash.
well ok those shyvana changes did help her a lot
but before those she wasn't that great.
i see why so many people dislike vaynes
you dont even have to do good in lane or even get fed in lane to win. Her late game is pretty damn amazing.
[QUOTE=RidingKeys;41822792]
you dont even have to do good in lane or even get fed in lane to win[/QUOTE]
Is that not the point of a late game carry
[QUOTE=RidingKeys;41822792]i see why so many people dislike vaynes
you dont even have to do good in lane or even get fed in lane to win. Her late game is pretty damn amazing.[/QUOTE]
Problem is Riot will possibly nerf her and then probably nerf Blade of the ruined king aswell and she'll go back to being shit early game.
Vayne is too strong at the moment in the meta because she gets so much free AD with her Ult you can afford to max Q for the base damage and scale from the Ult and get the ruined king for free procs of W and huge MS boost and hp shred.
The item is too strong but my guess is that Riot will nerf both because they are bad.
[QUOTE=The Stills;41822282]Is Skarner really as shit as people make him out to be?
Cause he seems like fun.[/QUOTE]
He's like a lot of champs at the moment. Fine and actually fun if you play in normal, complete dung if you play him in ranked.
[QUOTE=Rct33;41823035]Is that not the point of a late game carry[/QUOTE]
My remark was just purely on why people dislike to play against her. I understand the point of her completely.
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[QUOTE=Benf199105;41823057]Problem is Riot will possibly nerf her and then probably nerf Blade of the ruined king aswell and she'll go back to being shit early game.
Vayne is too strong at the moment in the meta because she gets so much free AD with her Ult you can afford to max Q for the base damage and scale from the Ult and get the ruined king for free procs of W and huge MS boost and hp shred.
The item is too strong but my guess is that Riot will nerf both because they are bad.[/QUOTE]
I'm not exactly completely sure of the current meta but my understanding is that health is a big factor with the season 3 changes and thats why BoTRK is such a strong item. I could be wrong though as I don't really do too much theorycrafting
Ain't no love for Talon in the skins department it seems.
[QUOTE=RidingKeys;41823164]My remark was just purely on why people dislike to play against her. I understand the point of her completely.
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I'm not exactly completely sure of the current meta but my understanding is that health is a big factor with the season 3 changes and thats why BoTRK is such a strong item. I could be wrong though as I don't really do too much theorycrafting[/QUOTE]
Riot wanted to break the health stacking meta at the end of season 2 and going into S3. Everyone pretty much built metagolem in S2, which was tanky bruisers and gap closers (you know all this anyway I guess). In essence Riot attempted to break the meta by giving players an item that can help them solo peel (MS boost stolen from chasing player) and it shreds HP, to stop tanky/dps bruisers from wrecking your AD and getting into the backline and being unkillable. Think of champs like Shyvana in S2, they could initiate and just wreck the team, chase for ever and were very hard to kill. During the time you've peeled for your ADC the other bruiser and the enemy AD and AP has nuked the rest of your team and its GG.
The issue is that BOTRK is almost too strong, it's core on ALOT of champs, and even where it's not even particularly core, its still an excellent pick up for the MS active and HP shred. It's actually meant that bruisers can stick to ADs just as well, as alot of the Assassins also buy it to stop people escaping.
Again I could be completely wrong and I'm sure someone high ELO will correct me. I think it could do with either a cost increase, meaning it gets bought later in the laning phase so it doesn't basically win lanes for people, or a general stat nerf, either way it's just far too strong and can be utilised by so many champs that it is just as bad as the old metagolem items.
didnt health stacking meta start with the introduction of the new warmog tho?
s2 was all about resistances
s2 was tanky deeps the game
skarner so much sustain dps with gauntlet
[QUOTE=Flip pl;41823836]didnt health stacking meta start with the introduction of the new warmog tho?
s2 was all about resistances[/QUOTE]
lolno
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most of the time, fon and atmas were the only items with resistances that anyone ever got
which was honestly all they needed, because botrk didnt exist, and madreds bloodrazor was an expensive as fuck item that dealt magic damage, so the 101 MR from fon + mercs was almost always enough.
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banshees was a situational item to get against karthus or someone with great initiation, and not everyone bought frozen mallet really, most of the time people kept their wriggles because it was like, the most cost efficient item in the game
i mean at the end of s2, when atma got nerfed and people only bought warmog on mundo olaf and voli
it was league of frozen heart and fon
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