[QUOTE=Zinayzen;40574458]I like Swain a lot, he just doesn't seem like a huge carry. It's all sustained damage, none of it is bursty. Seems more suited to playing top than mid.[/QUOTE]
i fail to see how sustained damage is worse than burst damage when it comes to carrying
annie is has a lot of burst yes but she's pretty shit at everything else, she's mostly lacking in range
I guess if you DO go mid you should grab an RoA instead of a tear...
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At my ELO unless you play someone with massive burst potential you're apparently not a carry (or so I've been told)
Then again when I play him I play him top as an AP bruiser so I've never really seen how powerful he can be, usually my goal is sustained disruption.
I haven't seen Swain in ages. I imagine he'd be good with Liandry's?
Q, E, and R each proc Liandry's four or five times a cooldown (R procs once a second on three targets. constantly). So that's 8-10% of max HP done in magic damage per CD, not including the ult. Add a Rylai's and you double that.
[QUOTE=Daniellynet;40574446][img]http://i.imgur.com/xiePSCX.png[/img]
Yay, promotion matches. [I]KILL ME.[/I][/QUOTE]
You should see my promotion matches. Teemo kept getting ganked top lane, told him to buy a ward.
"wat ME buy ward? lol omg sup no buy ward? xDDD"
Unfortunately Liandry's procs don't stack, which means a lot of Liandry's burst is wasted because Q E won't apply eight stacks of Liandry's. However, the proc resets aren't on a global cooldown, so when Q and E are staggered (which they always are), Q procs, then E resets proc, then Q procs again, then E resets proc, etc.
So it actually starts to add up REALLY quickly. Figure a full combo procs Liandry's like nine times, and the ult continually procs it as long as it's active...it's a lot of damage.
Wish it stacked, though. :(
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That reminds me. Does Drain count as one channeled spell, or a DoT?
[QUOTE=Fancy Cakes;40574612]I haven't seen Swain in ages. I imagine he'd be good with Liandry's?[/QUOTE]
I have 0 loses with him in Ranked.
He's broken as fuck yo.
He's the only hard counter to Diana too
it would be fucking retarded if the proc stacked tho
Oh, I know. A full combo would bleed you for 20 seconds. Doesn't mean I can't wish they did.
They need to change his passive, though. The mana refund needs to scale, otherwise Swain needs blue constantly to not be terrible.
it does scale even if it's pretty poorly
Whenever Swain kills an enemy unit, he regains 9 + (1 × level) mana.
compared to something like karthus e passive even if it's only when it's toggled off
MANA RESTORED: 20 / 27 / 34 / 41 / 48
[QUOTE=Tacooo;40573989]Can Annie play any other positions than mid?[/QUOTE]
she is an okay jungler, her ganks are lethal
48 mana per unit is almost nothing, that's the thing. Especially if you start with a tear.
It should be something like every unit killed restores .2% of your mana or something.
[QUOTE=Zinayzen;40574742]That reminds me. Does Drain count as one channeled spell, or a DoT?[/QUOTE]
full channel
[QUOTE=Zinayzen;40574848]48 mana per unit is almost nothing, that's the thing. Especially if you start with a tear.
It should be something like every unit killed restores .2% of your mana or something.[/QUOTE]
uh
[QUOTE=Zinayzen;40574784]Oh, I know. A full combo would bleed you for 20 seconds. Doesn't mean I can't wish they did.
They need to change his passive, though. The mana refund needs to scale, otherwise Swain needs blue constantly to not be terrible.[/QUOTE]
No, if they buffed his ult, they'd have to nerf something else.
They shouldn't change anything
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Btw jungle Twitch is fun. Nothing viable, just fun as hell.
I said passive not ult.
and haven't we established when it comes to champ changes i have no idea what i'm talking about
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[QUOTE=Flip pl;40574850]full channel[/QUOTE]
So does Drain only proc Liandry's once?
I guess I'm going for Vlad/Rumble. Probably Vlad, hes sort of trolley
vlad's an asshole but rumble's worse
[QUOTE=Zinayzen;40574885]I said passive not ult.[/QUOTE]
...that would be an indirect ult buff.
Aka the shit that's important.
[QUOTE=Zinayzen;40574885]I said passive not ult.
and haven't we established when it comes to champ changes i have no idea what i'm talking about
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So does Drain only proc Liandry's once?[/QUOTE]
liandry doesnt care about dot, channel or aoe
it procs everytime you deal spell damage, and drain deals damage every 0.5 second, which means it procs liandry 10 times
[QUOTE=Zinayzen;40574903]vlad's an asshole but rumble's worse[/QUOTE]
BUT WHO IS ZE BETTER CHOICE. I think I'll go with Rumble to win, Vlad to be an asshole.
[QUOTE=Flip pl;40574936]liandry doesnt care about dot, channel or aoe
it procs everytime you deal spell damage, and drain deals damage every 0.5 second, which means it procs liandry 10 times[/QUOTE]
Oh. That makes more sense.
Would Gunblade proc it?
after rumble's ult got nerfed i'd say vlad is the better choice honestly
rumble's ult feel weak as shit now
I wanna buy renekton next or volibear
idk
[QUOTE=Nintendo-Guy;40574989]after rumble's ult got nerfed i'd say vlad is the better choice honestly
rumble's ult feel weak as shit now[/QUOTE]
Vlad also seems like a good choice, with a lot of practise you can pretty much wreck I guess.
Oh god, 2 losses and 2 wins in my series qualifier.
Any really good/confident FP'ers wanna help me win? :v:
[QUOTE=Zinayzen;40574977]Oh. That makes more sense.
Would Gunblade proc it?[/QUOTE]
i was about to say no but
[quote]This item's passive also works with certain damage dealing item actives, such as Bilgewater Cutlass, Blade of the Ruined King, Hextech Gunblade and Deathfire Grasp.[/quote]
oh well
i literally can not stand mirror matches at all.
So I just played a ranked bronze 5 match with a thresh adc, he was screaming for me to take alistar who I dont have.... I took leona we lost lane against draven + soraka. Jesus though he kept farming and turned into a monster. Last 10 mins their nocturn quit and we took base / surrender.
He said thanks to me, think its worth while playing with him duo or wont the thresh adc carry thing last?
Oh man, Orianna is super much fun. Haven't had this much fun midlane since Lux.
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