[quote]7) ... but what about Rhino?
He will be reviewed and changed!
May 21st @ 2:00 PM EST UPDATE:
The following changes are being made:
1) He will now again have full invulnerability, but up to a damage (d) cap of: 200 d, 400 d, 600 d, and 800 d based on mod rank. Thoughts?
2) He now aggro's enemies to draw fire by using Iron Skin, as enemies now see him as a big threat![/quote]
My Rhino is still in the baking, how's thins change to more seasoned Rhinos ?
[QUOTE=Tokagero;40731963]My Rhino is still in the baking, how's thins change to more seasoned Rhinos ?[/QUOTE]
The damage cap will pretty much render the ability useless. It basically gives you an extra shield. Just hiding and taking your time would be safer/easier. The enemy aggro is better, but it's not as much as a nerf as a buff. For all fire to be drawn to an invulnerable Tenno would leave his other teammates free to open fire themselves.
So instead of being invulnerable for a while, he instead gets an extra pair of shields? The damage cap seems reasonable, but it may quickly disappear if you are in a room full of enemies who you all aggro. I haven't played as a rhino before, so this is just my theory.
[editline]22nd May 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=SweetSwifter;40731987]The damage cap will pretty much render the ability useless. It basically gives you an extra shield. Just hiding and taking your time would be safer/easier. The enemy aggro is better, but it's not as much as a nerf as a buff. For all fire to be drawn to an invulnerable Tenno would leave his other teammates free to open fire themselves.[/QUOTE]
800 damage shield sounds quite ridiculous, and that is in addition to the massive amounts of shields the rhino gets by default.
[QUOTE=DrasarSalman;40732007]So instead of being invulnerable for a while, he instead gets an extra pair of shields? The damage cap seems reasonable, but it may quickly disappear if you are in a room full of enemies who you all aggro. I haven't played as a rhino before, so this is just my theory.
[editline]22nd May 2013[/editline]
800 damage shield sounds quite ridiculous, and that is in addition to the massive amounts of shields the rhino gets by default.[/QUOTE]
I think the best nerf they can give it is to tune down the duration. I mean, right now, fully levelled and with a duration mod you can easily go invulnerable for half a minute. It should be used as a get-out quickly ability, or to help safely empty an entire clip into a boss before hiding again.
Do you guys think his Charge will be changed ? Right now it seems to be alternative Slashing Dash of Excalibur, which is neat and all, but I wish it was more of a "stampede". Though that might be me not letting in the thought that despite being heavyweight, Rhino's still a space ninja and should have some mobile powers.
How do you get the parts for the train?
I think the best nerf for Iron Skin would be to make it the 75 energy skill, and then do something about the last two abilities being more or less the same thing. That's one of the major problems with Rhino for me.
[QUOTE=PredGD;40732244]How do you get the parts for the train?[/QUOTE]
Alerts, luck.
[QUOTE=BoSoZoku;40732274]Alerts, luck.[/QUOTE]
my god :suicide:
wow guess what guys your rhino is never going to be brought back to the boss murdering monster it used to be, deal with it
It was hard enough getting the Banshee parts, and that was sorta predictable.
Well, I own Rhino/Nyx
2/3 of my warframes have been reduced to walking poo yes
I got Mag, Rhino and Saryn.
Let's talk about wlking poo.
[QUOTE=krail9;40732478]wow guess what guys your rhino is never going to be brought back to the boss murdering monster it used to be, deal with it[/QUOTE]
Well, making it a cap of 800 damage is pretty much even worse than it is now. At the very high end levels it literally will not survive a single hit.
I think I need to stop gathering all of the parts of warframes, as the day I do, they get nerfed. I wish this wasn't a common thing.
[QUOTE=Ray-The-Sun;40732602]Well, making it a cap of 800 damage is pretty much even worse than it is now. At the very high end levels it literally will not survive a single hit.[/QUOTE]
what enemy hits 800 damage? I suppose I liked the 80% reduction better but whatever, we'll see what DE do about it
my point is that it was ridiculous before and the nerf shouldn't have come as a surprise
i like how they say we got invulnerability back to try to make it sound like not complete bullshit. It sounds ridiculous if you say we get an ability that effectively adds 200 shields to your frame, temporarily at that.
[QUOTE=krail9;40732640]what enemy hits 800 damage?[/QUOTE]
You uh
don't play defense much, do you?
[QUOTE=Ray-The-Sun;40732676]You uh
don't play defense much, do you?[/QUOTE]
thanks for answering my question, very helpful
[QUOTE=TehAgentGuy;40731798][IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12654117/2013-05-21_00001.jpg[/IMG]
Hnnngghh what should I make?[/QUOTE]I'm a bit late, but craft the reactor if your Warframe isn't already potato'd. The Paris is a fun weapon especially while playing Solo but it's really inefficient. In the time it takes to kill one guy with a Paris, you can kill twice as many guys with almost any other weapon. The Jaw Sword looks pretty but it's stats are worse than the Cronus.
[QUOTE=krail9;40732878]thanks for answering my question, very helpful[/QUOTE]
Okay then, let me explain: you know how enemy levels work in regards to defense missions? Right, keep that in mind for my next statement.
[I]All of them[/I].
[QUOTE=Ray-The-Sun;40732923]Okay then, let me explain: you know how enemy levels work in regards to defense missions? Okay, keep that in mind for my next statement.
[I]All of them[/I].[/QUOTE]
so you're saying that at a stage where all the enemies are so powerful they can kill you in one shot, rhino should be able to go completely invincible and shrug everything off exactly the same way he does against level 1 enemies?
How well does the Grakata fill the 'Shoot a lot of bullets really fast' role?
Was thinking of crafting it for a full unranked to 30 set.
Got enough alloy to craft my excalibur helmet, had to do several runs on veneria or whataever to get the 240 I needed, fuck alloy, farming it is the most unfun thing ever.
Grakata's great if you max out Ammo Drum and fill your inventory with rifle ammo boxes
I really wish I could find Multishot. Doubling my DPS with my Boltor would be wonderful.
Am I the only one who's been really irritated by how hard DE is hitting things with the nerf hammer and not really giving a damn or even asking what a proper nerf would be as opposed to what they're doing?
[QUOTE=Mikaru-Yanagida;40733617]Am I the only one who's been really irritated by how hard DE is hitting things with the nerf hammer and not really giving a damn or even asking what a proper nerf would be as opposed to what they're doing?[/QUOTE]
I like how they're probably never going to buff the Burston. Just nerf everything else until Burston becomes better tha the Braton.
If they touch my Boltor I'll cry.
[QUOTE=krail9;40732992]so you're saying that at a stage where all the enemies are so powerful they can kill you in one shot, rhino should be able to go completely invincible and shrug everything off exactly the same way he does against level 1 enemies?[/QUOTE]
Yes.
Because he is this games tank.
That's what he should do.
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