[QUOTE=Agoat;42878748]You're likely encountering the effects of popular players making claims early on, but there's plenty of evidence against your claims (even if they're just examples to show what you're saying).
I hope you don't take offense to this, but I'd like to demonstrate why the MSBS is considered so powerful.
In it's most effective range, the MSBS does 55 damage per shot. That means it's a two shot kill, but it's also a very accurate burst fire weapon. With the full auto attachment, it becomes a very effect close to mid-range weapon. The claims of it being the best come from that knowledge as well as the current meta being AR-driven. It's main downfall is the poor hip spread, but that can be fixed with steady aim. By no means is it unbeatable, but if you go by stats, there's a clear advantage.
To talk about the Honey Badger, it's a good gun if you run suppressor by default, but that only means it has value for a certain playstyle. I could go on for days about why certain things are effective, but it's really just an extension of your skill set and playstyle. Finding success against whats popular will always bring an advantage.[/QUOTE]
I can understand where you're coming from but like I said before, the differences between all of the weapons are so minute it doesn't even make a difference. They all handle so similarly per their class that any kind of damage modifiers or accuracy modifiers or whatever are relatively meaningless.
besides, artificial kills via gun turrets, attack dogs, bonzai melee suits and all of that other shit aside, the game is pretty strict on player skill over weapon quality. I don't need a MSBS to top the scoreboard. it all depends on what weapons you are familiar with, how to employ them in every map and how used to their mechanics you are
there isn't one gun that's better than another because you can just slap addons on to whatever gun to make it superior to yadda-da base gun. and damage? who cares. whoever shoots and hits first usually wins anyway. you can go ahead and land two shots on me I GUESS even if it takes me three shots to kill you but it won't matter because by the time you do you'll be dead. because, you know, I hit you first
actually upon rereading your post I evidently pretty much ignored most of what you said and now i'm just reiterating everything. oh well. I'll just leave this post up for further proof of concept
[editline]16th November 2013[/editline]
that's one thing CoD has over BF4 right now I think. 2/3 times I die in BF4 is because I and another player shoot each other to death. literally. there's no third person to take one of us out. We literally shoot and kill each other. I've never had that happen in CoD
I don't even know about you guys but I've been combat sliding over the people I kill and steal their weapons. I've gotten so many skins unlocked for guns I don't even use because of this, and honestly I've never even really met too many MSBS players
[video=youtube;E3fwn7GXrLk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3fwn7GXrLk[/video]
Holy shit,is this gun super strong or what???
like i said before
K7 master race reporting in
seriously just attach fmj or w/e it's called and you're good to go
I went back and tried to play Black Ops 1
Holy shit, it runs like literal garbage. That's fucking stupid considering that I can run Black Ops 2 on medium-high, 1920x1080 at a solid 60.
[QUOTE=69105;42887134]I can understand where you're coming from but like I said before, the differences between all of the weapons are so minute it doesn't even make a difference. They all handle so similarly per their class that any kind of damage modifiers or accuracy modifiers or whatever are relatively meaningless.
besides, artificial kills via gun turrets, attack dogs, bonzai melee suits and all of that other shit aside, the game is pretty strict on player skill over weapon quality. I don't need a MSBS to top the scoreboard. it all depends on what weapons you are familiar with, how to employ them in every map and how used to their mechanics you are
there isn't one gun that's better than another because you can just slap addons on to whatever gun to make it superior to yadda-da base gun. and damage? who cares. whoever shoots and hits first usually wins anyway. you can go ahead and land two shots on me I GUESS even if it takes me three shots to kill you but it won't matter because by the time you do you'll be dead. because, you know, I hit you first
actually upon rereading your post I evidently pretty much ignored most of what you said and now i'm just reiterating everything. oh well. I'll just leave this post up for further proof of concept
[editline]16th November 2013[/editline]
that's one thing CoD has over BF4 right now I think. 2/3 times I die in BF4 is because I and another player shoot each other to death. literally. there's no third person to take one of us out. We literally shoot and kill each other. I've never had that happen in CoD
I don't even know about you guys but I've been combat sliding over the people I kill and steal their weapons. I've gotten so many skins unlocked for guns I don't even use because of this, and honestly I've never even really met too many MSBS players[/QUOTE]
Player skill doesn't have much to do with certain guns being better than others. (Statistically speaking)
I tested the Wild Widow on an Assault Juggernaut in private match and it kills them in 2 shots.
Jesus christ that magnum is powerful, anyone on PC want to test a Battle HIND with me?!
edit: guess not.
[editline]17th November 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;42888139]I went back and tried to play Black Ops 1
Holy shit, it runs like literal garbage. That's fucking stupid considering that I can run Black Ops 2 on medium-high, 1920x1080 at a solid 60.[/QUOTE]
At least it runs better than Ghosts.
[QUOTE=Rethill34;42889400]At least it runs better than Ghosts.[/QUOTE]
i heard my grandma runs better than ghosts
[video=youtube;KKXOFHx22Po]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKXOFHx22Po[/video]
Didn't edit it, skip to 3:00 to see the Juggernaut being killed by the magnum.
Why is it always easy as hell to hack in IW's CoDs?
[editline]17th November 2013[/editline]
Hm, guess the video just doesn't want to show up :(
Decided to play one game of freefall (chrome barrel grinding) before bed. It was after 1 am after a [b]long[/b] day at work.
[img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/ilnL931.jpg[/img_thumb]
end up in a modded lobby that wont end.
Holy christ IW what were you thinking...I have a class on my Xbox 360 that has the Wild Widow, the Minigun, all the perks, and Assault Juggernaut, Maniac, and Odin as support. You become effectively unstoppable. I also have a 2nd class where you spawn with godmode, and you're invisible.
Even in MW3 were class checks patched, but it's like with every CoD they launch them with 0 class checks. MW3 was debatably worse though, you could have the care package as a proficiency on your weapon. Infinite care packages!
[QUOTE=ihatecompvir;42890407]Holy christ IW what were you thinking...I have a class on my Xbox 360 that has the Wild Widow, the Minigun, all the perks, and Assault Juggernaut, Maniac, and Odin as support. You become effectively unstoppable. I also have a 2nd class where you spawn with godmode, and you're invisible.
Even in MW3 were class checks patched, but it's like with every CoD they launch them with 0 class checks. MW3 was debatably worse though, you could have the care package as a proficiency on your weapon. Infinite care packages![/QUOTE]
Wait, how do you do the godmode?
[editline]17th November 2013[/editline]
Infinite care packages is interesting, I might boot up TechnoMW3 and give that a try.
[editline]17th November 2013[/editline]
I'm guessing that you make yourself invisible by setting uniform / head to an invalid number?
[QUOTE=Rethill34;42890465]Wait, how do you do the godmode?
[editline]17th November 2013[/editline]
Infinite care packages is interesting, I might boot up TechnoMW3 and give that a try.
[editline]17th November 2013[/editline]
I'm guessing that you make yourself invisible by setting uniform / head to an invalid number?[/QUOTE]
Godmode is done by setting the number of kills to receive a perk in the specialist package to a number so high the game has to count all the way up when you spawn. This hangs the script so that the spawning code which assigns your health value and makes you "visible" to simply not happen, so that you become invincible and invisible. Of course, there are downsides to this. You spawn without a weapon, so you have to pick one up. After that though, it's all fair game and you cannot die or be seen by anyone.
[QUOTE=ihatecompvir;42890522]Godmode is done by setting the number of kills to receive a perk in the specialist package to a number so high the game has to count all the way up when you spawn. This hangs the script so that the spawning code which assigns your health value and makes you "visible" to simply not happen, so that you become invincible and invisible. Of course, there are downsides to this. You spawn without a weapon, so you have to pick one up. After that though, it's all fair game and you cannot die or be seen by anyone.[/QUOTE]
Interesting, so how would you set the number of kills needed? I've only found ways to change specialist perks into support and assault killstreaks :(
And what kind of numbers do you have it set to?
[editline]17th November 2013[/editline]
Also, the Wild Widow takes out Battle HINDS at a large distance in just 3 shots.
Two weeks since launch, still no fixes.
Woop.
[QUOTE=Rethill34;42890559]Interesting, so how would you set the number of kills needed? I've only found ways to change specialist perks into support and assault killstreaks :(
And what kind of numbers do you have it set to?
[editline]17th November 2013[/editline]
Also, the Wild Widow takes out Battle HINDS at a large distance in just 3 shots.[/QUOTE]
You have to set the kills needed to some ridiculous number. Something extremely high will do it. Also, if you wanna go the other way, you can set the number of kills required for each perk 1, 2, and 3. It's kinda cheap but you can get all your perks in just 3 kills.
[QUOTE=Neddy;42886650]Some guy in my lobby was prestiged (I think?) and had EVERY perk. What the fuck.[/QUOTE]
Uninstalled the whole fucking game after I saw that.
[QUOTE=ihatecompvir;42891096]You have to set the kills needed to some ridiculous number. Something extremely high will do it. Also, if you wanna go the other way, you can set the number of kills required for each perk 1, 2, and 3. It's kinda cheap but you can get all your perks in just 3 kills.[/QUOTE]
Damn, if only I could figure out how to do that in Cheat Engine :(
I see that when I select a perk in Specialist it writes two values, one for the perk, and the other for the amount of kills needed. Changing that does literally nothing though :(
[editline]17th November 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=AhoyMate;42891298]Uninstalled the whole fucking game after I saw that.[/QUOTE]
Worst of all it's pathetically easy to do and the Anti Cheat is designed to do nothing.
[video=youtube;gPHp1ziXQEA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPHp1ziXQEA[/video]
holy shit
[editline]17th November 2013[/editline]
also double post
And more ugly ass high FoV.
[QUOTE=GHOST!!!!;42894822]And more ugly ass high FoV.[/QUOTE]
I apologize for getting sick from 65 fov.
[QUOTE=GHOST!!!!;42894822]And more ugly ass high FoV.[/QUOTE]
i don't get why you're bitching. i can understand how it looks bad in a tiny youtube video window but when you run 90+ FOV fullscreen it's incredible
besides, it's so much easier to kill people when you're outside of their peripherals and they're inside yours
65 fov feels great on PS3, but as soon as I try playing say: MW3 or Ghosts without the FOv changer I get disoriented and start feeling ill.
it's really confusing but if it didn't affect me at all I would still have it at 65, lol.
how are the pistols in ghosts? i loved the pistols in blops 2 and used them like primaries.
[QUOTE=Qaus;42896120]how are the pistols in ghosts? i loved the pistols in blops 2 and used them like primaries.[/QUOTE]
You're going to be severely disappointed by the pistols in Ghosts then.
what's wrong with them?
[editline]17th November 2013[/editline]
Or is there less than 5?
[QUOTE=Demolitions2;42896298]You're going to be severely disappointed by the pistols in Ghosts then.[/QUOTE]
There's only one pistol I'm not disappointed in, and I need Cheat Engine to use it :I
Oh my god teleporting everyone to one player then changing the gravity to -500 is fucking hilarious :v:
[QUOTE=69105;42894889]i don't get why you're bitching. i can understand how it looks bad in a tiny youtube video window but when you run 90+ FOV fullscreen it's incredible[/QUOTE]
I think it looks ugly when the animations and shit get stretched out.
[QUOTE=Qaus;42896402]what's wrong with them?
[editline]17th November 2013[/editline]
Or is there less than 5?[/QUOTE]
Theres 3 semi-auto pistols, 2 of them do no damage and the other one takes a full magazine to kill someone, the magnum has a slower fire rate than a pump action shotgun but if you land a shot from the chest up its a 1 shot kill at close range. The 3-burst pistol sucks.
So I take it no news for PC fixes? I've been waiting for them to come out so I can buy Ghosts possibly.
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