[QUOTE=Rents;40488360]The only thing worse than a barbarian is an angry barbarian.[/QUOTE]
Wait, are you trying to say that there are non-angry ones?
[QUOTE=M.Ciaster;40489200]Wait, are you trying to say that there are non-angry ones?[/QUOTE]
There are Barbarians that aren't angry [i]yet[/i]
[QUOTE=LiquidNazgul;40476068]Y'know there is a much better generic universal system that isn't clunky and overcomplicated like GURPS is, and where combat can be summed up on one little neat sheet, and where the core rulebook is under 200 pages
[URL="http://www.peginc.com/freebies/SWcore/TD06.pdf"]quick start rules[/URL]
Seriously, this will be so much less of a headache to run as a GM and play as a player. just saying, I mean I've played GURPS a lot not too long ago and everything was just bufaw: clunky character creation, complicated combat, and fuck all hundreds and hundreds and [I]hundreds[/I] of pages of rules that often contradict each other. Savage Worlds has none of this.
Yes I am a blatant salesman of SW sue me it's literally the greatest universal ruleset in existence, except for maybe FATE. maybe
[URL="http://www.peginc.com/freebies/SWcore/Combat Survival Guide.pdf"]here's the combat sheet for it btw[/URL] My group only had to reference it for a few sessions and then only had to occasionally reference it by session 4
[URL="http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Savage_Worlds"]here read this for more infomation and education for make benefit your brain
[/URL][/QUOTE]What is this blasphemy?
There isn't even support for being a sentient telekinetic horse that can shoot ice cream out of it's ass.
[editline]1st May 2013[/editline]
I mean there CAN be, but GURPS natively supports it.
So, my group and I were really excited to play Shadowrun and we finally found a GM. The day of the first session, he doesn't show up. Couple days later we hear that he got in some crazy argument with his wife and now they're getting divorced so he can't run a game. Couples months later, we find another GM. Day of the first session, he shows up 45 minutes late. Good news and bad news. Good news is he just got promoted. Bad news is he can't run a game now.
After that fiasco, we decided that one of us should GM the game, and I've been nominated. I've never GM'd a game before, what do I dooooo.
[QUOTE=ElTacoLad;40489886]So, my group and I were really excited to play Shadowrun and we finally found a GM. The day of the first session, he doesn't show up. Couple days later we hear that he got in some crazy argument with his wife and now they're getting divorced so he can't run a game. Couples months later, we find another GM. Day of the first session, he shows up 45 minutes late. Good news and bad news. Good news is he just got promoted. Bad news is he can't run a game now.
After that fiasco, we decided that one of us should GM the game, and I've been nominated. I've never GM'd a game before, what do I dooooo.[/QUOTE]
Recruit more players into your group.
Start with me.
[sp]just kidding i dont even want to play shadowrun[/sp]
Had my first DnD experience yesterday, 2 guys I already knew and 2 others I met at the session which both of my friends already knew, one of those 2 new guys was the DM, golden moments from our first encounter involved me rolling a 20 on the final enemy still standing and pretty much blowing him up with my blade, and our chaotic evil dragonborn trying to hug everyone into submission (he tried to interrogate a goblin and domesticate a wolf by hugging them, ended up killing both). Meanwhile, our warlock was a coward and tried to run away from the battle, got surrounded by two surprise wolfs and almost died. It was a pretty fun experience and we may continue it tonight.
[QUOTE=Antary;40489912]just kidding i dont even want to play shadowrun[/QUOTE]
confirmed faggot
[QUOTE=ElTacoLad;40489886]So, my group and I were really excited to play Shadowrun and we finally found a GM. The day of the first session, he doesn't show up. Couple days later we hear that he got in some crazy argument with his wife and now they're getting divorced so he can't run a game. Couples months later, we find another GM. Day of the first session, he shows up 45 minutes late. Good news and bad news. Good news is he just got promoted. Bad news is he can't run a game now.
After that fiasco, we decided that one of us should GM the game, and I've been nominated. I've never GM'd a game before, what do I dooooo.[/QUOTE]
Our group needed a DM and I was the only guy who wanted to do it.
How I mostly figured out how to DM was I watched these videos:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNrU0_A-PFk[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVxkpOolpKw[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFT1bE7Yjcs[/url]
I know they're long but there's a shit load of great tips and tricks.
Also I just straight up read the DM guide.
I had like a 30 hours train ride and nothing better to do.
[QUOTE=Katatonic717;40490975]Our group needed a DM and I was the only guy who wanted to do it.
How I mostly figured out how to DM was I watched these videos:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNrU0_A-PFk[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVxkpOolpKw[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFT1bE7Yjcs[/url]
I know they're long but there's a shit load of great tips and tricks.
Also I just straight up read the DM guide.
I had like a 30 hours train ride and nothing better to do.[/QUOTE]
Spoony's Counter Monkey series is what got me into this stuff in the first place. The Squirt Gun Wars is one of the most hilarious things I'd ever seen.
[editline]1st May 2013[/editline]
Hopefully I don't get hit by a car or something. With the way things have gone so far it seems that Shadowrun doesn't want to be played.
[QUOTE=ElTacoLad;40489886]So, my group and I were really excited to play Shadowrun and we finally found a GM. The day of the first session, he doesn't show up. Couple days later we hear that he got in some crazy argument with his wife and now they're getting divorced so he can't run a game. Couples months later, we find another GM. Day of the first session, he shows up 45 minutes late. Good news and bad news. Good news is he just got promoted. Bad news is he can't run a game now.
After that fiasco, we decided that one of us should GM the game, and I've been nominated. I've never GM'd a game before, what do I dooooo.[/QUOTE]
Mandate using pre-made characters if at least half of the group, including yourself, is unfamiliar with Shadowrun 4th Edition. Character creation for that system is so convoluted it's not even funny, and the rules, while not difficult, suffers from the core book's poor organization. Start off with something simple for the first few missions---snatch and grab, courier runs, steal a prototype from X corporation, etc.
At least, that's what I try to do when introducing groups to new systems. Pregenerated characters, and a short but sweet scenario, so everyone can get accustomed to the rules and figure out if it's for them. If the group likes it, then I'll allow people to create their own characters in later sessions.
[QUOTE=LobsterPastry;40489756]What is this blasphemy?
There isn't even support for being a sentient telekinetic horse that can shoot ice cream out of it's ass.
[editline]1st May 2013[/editline]
I mean there CAN be, but GURPS natively supports it.[/QUOTE]
GURPS also natively supports clunkiness and complexity on a hithero unseen scale, not to mention the bad organization of the two core books, each of which are pretty lengthy tomes
What do you mean it "natively" supports something as dumb as that? Savage Worlds can do it just fine
[QUOTE=Katatonic717;40490975]Our group needed a DM and I was the only guy who wanted to do it.
How I mostly figured out how to DM was I watched these videos:
[URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNrU0_A-PFk[/URL]
[URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVxkpOolpKw[/URL]
[URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFT1bE7Yjcs[/URL]
I know they're long but there's a shit load of great tips and tricks.
Also I just straight up read the DM guide.
I had like a 30 hours train ride and nothing better to do.[/QUOTE]
Also, there's a great session of Chris Perkins who DMs a D&D game for the creators of Robot Chicken. I got a lot of my inspiration as DM from this man:
[video=youtube;-jAe42mv0h8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jAe42mv0h8[/video]
There's another version of the same video where Perkins gives DM commentary and tips, which are extremely insightful.
[QUOTE=Antary;40489912]Recruit more players into your group.
Start with me.
[sp]just kidding i dont even want to play shadowrun[/sp][/QUOTE]
I'd play but I already in the middle of a campaign.
I'd only want to play shadowrun if it was in person with an experienced GM
everyone who mentions playing shadowrun over internet talks about how painful it is, and I'd like to have someone with a deep understanding of the universe and its workings
The hacking rules in Shadowrun get pretty silly, you can easily spend an hour doing shit that's literally a matter of seconds "real time".
[QUOTE=RearAdmiral;40488394]What about a buffed Angry Barbarian? Or does magic just get in the way of being angry[/QUOTE]
Barbarians tend to be extremely iffy and distrustful of magic.
[QUOTE=Alice3173;40496535]Barbarians tend to be extremely iffy and distrustful of magic.[/QUOTE]
The only things barbarians cast is fist.
Is it weird that we play our DnD games in a setting our group collectively created?
When we started we had no books and we made everything up, including the gameplay. It was kind of embarrassing.
But we poured all the effort into all this lore and we couldn't bare to let go of this setting we created.
So no we take lore from legit DnD and fill in the gaps of our own world.
Our place is pretty crazy, each of us kind of dictates what certain races are like.
I made the Lizardfolk out to be intelligent tinkerers with an Aztec inspired look.
The elves are a weird mix of Japanese and Ancient Roman culture.
Orcs are now all sea fairing pirates.
And there is some new races we made up and stated and they work really well.
We even made up our own gods because we thought some of the standard ones were too boring. Though we had to level up a character to 30 to actually do that because I thought we should have SOME normalcy.
But do any of you guys do shit like this or do you all just play from the book?
Personally I really like our custom world. It makes everything super flexible and it creates a group synergy thingy between everyone.
Also when our personal god characters show up it lets us flex our acting muscles and temporarily bring back an old character.
It's a ton of fun.
A lot of groups have completely homebrew campaign settings.
[editline]2nd May 2013[/editline]
Hell, Forgotten Realms started that way.
[QUOTE=RearAdmiral;40500572]A lot of groups have completely homebrew campaign settings.
[editline]2nd May 2013[/editline]
Hell, Forgotten Realms started that way.[/QUOTE]
Oh good, I feel less weird now.
Cept' about my race of lizardmen. I feel weird about those, especially after learning about that one website involving scalie [i]things[/i].
[QUOTE=Katatonic717;40500585]Oh good, I feel less weird now.
Cept' about my race of lizardmen. I feel weird about those, especially after learning about that one website involving scalie [i]things[/i].[/QUOTE]
rrerr
[editline]chivalry[/editline]
[img]http://puu.sh/2Lkp9.png[/img]
[QUOTE=RearAdmiral;40500572]A lot of groups have completely homebrew campaign settings.
[editline]2nd May 2013[/editline]
Hell, Forgotten Realms started that way.[/QUOTE]
Elder Scrolls, too.
[QUOTE=RearAdmiral;40500590]rrerr[/QUOTE]
I have made so many rrerr jokes.
My first character was a lizardman king, but the lizard empire/kingdom/whateverthefuckingtits was destroyed when he was a baby when all these skeletons fucked up their shit, so the king thing didn't matter.
I made up some legendary story thing where his father was a lizardman and his mother was this great big magic dragon.
What I'm getting at is there has been a joke I made that is funny every time I say it with my group.
The character talked with a funny slovak-ish accent which I think added to this.
We were in a tavern and we were talking about where we came from.
My character goes:
[i]"Vell my mothar vas a dragon und my fathar vas a lizardman. I still don't understand how zat vorked."[/i]
And as he says that last bit he violently wiggles a straw around in an empty cup.
Everyone fucking lost it.
My god we have a lame sense of humor.
Speaking of lizardmen characters, I doodled that blind friendly necromancer/cleric I mentioned earlier:
[t]http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/zz14/fireguy717/Blind_Necromancer_zpsfe8d9d0f.jpg[/t]
What in the fuck.
So in the 4e game I'm in, most of us are experienced roleplayers with D&D and Pathfinder in general. So we're on our way to this old abandoned keep. Simple enough, and the DM is new at DM'ing, so all's good. We all play pretty smart, covering up golden golems with bedsheets we found in the abandoned town (our bladesinger, basically a wizard with a sword, detected that they have some kind of telekinetic power from their faces) and all that.
Oh yeah and the entire keep is still populated by skeletons going about their daily business: having eternal ball dances, maintaining a kitchen and a bar...
oh fucking hell a bar. Everyone in the party, except for myself and our cavalier decides to have food and drink from the skeletons. What the fuck guys. We could literally be floating around in the Astral Sea with eldritch abominations all around us and we have a quest to save the world, and you guys are casually having a spot of tea and biscuits? Served by the living dead?
Well, the skeleton bartender did make a killer martini though. No pun intended. I think
Gonna join an Iron Kingdom session and I've decided to be a Paranoid, Magic-User Hating Investigator Mechanik Engineer.
Magic Sensitivity and Hyper Perception ho~.
[editline]2nd May 2013[/editline]
Also he's a drunkard.
[QUOTE=Ray-The-Sun;40500594]Elder Scrolls, too.[/QUOTE]
And Greyhawk ('standard' d&d).
Mordenkain, Melf (aka 'm elf'), all those spell namesakes were actual wizard characters from the halls of Gygax. Bigby was part of a series including Rigby, Sigby and Xigby, which annoyed the DM to no end.
And specializes in holdout weapons.
[editline]2nd May 2013[/editline]
nu mi automerj :c
[QUOTE=LobsterPastry;40502589]Gonna join an Iron Kingdom session and I've decided to be a Paranoid, Magic-User Hating Investigator Mechanik Engineer.
Magic Sensitivity and Hyper Perception ho~.
[editline]2nd May 2013[/editline]
Also he's a drunkard.[/QUOTE]
Wait, do you mean the proper Iron Kingdoms RPG? The new one?
Fawkin' sweet
[QUOTE=LiquidNazgul;40441595]I've never liked 3.5, and while I think Pathfinder is a solid system with even more solid support from Paizo (freakin' love the adventure paths), it can be intimidating to get into. Creating a character takes time, but thanks to the excellent support of the SRD you have a lot of stuff to choose from and have virtually the entire Pathfinder material at your fingertips.
And finally, this one's probably the most heretical thing any D&D player can say, but I never liked the alignment system and how much it restricts you in Pathfinder. In 4e, the number of alignments has fallen, and it doesn't really have an effect on gameplay anymore, which I think is good. I really hate having to have endless debates with people about whether this action or that action was neutral evil or chaotic neutral, etc. etc. I could really give less of a damn
In a nutshell: don't just look at 3.5 and Pathfinder, look at 4e as well. Also look at D&D Next, the playtest materials are free and while other people might object to this, I personally like the direction that Next is going.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LiquidNazgul;40462765]Mathfinder[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LiquidNazgul;40463618]Nothing says you can't have a friendly and polite personality and be unaligned. I play my characters by what I define their personality as, not as their alignment. My ninja in one Pathfinder game is neutral evil, but is only that way because she's willing to cut a bar maid's hand off because she was too loud, stuff like that. This is why I find 3.5 and, to a lesser extent, Pathfinder, extremely frustrating when it comes to alignment. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LiquidNazgul;40476068]Y'know there is a much better generic universal system that isn't clunky and overcomplicated like GURPS is, and where combat can be summed up on one little neat sheet, and where the core rulebook is under 200 pages
Seriously, this will be so much less of a headache to run as a GM and play as a player. just saying, I mean I've played GURPS a lot not too long ago and everything was just bufaw: clunky character creation, complicated combat, and fuck all hundreds and hundreds and [I]hundreds[/I] of pages of rules that often contradict each other. Savage Worlds has none of this.
Yes I am a blatant salesman of SW sue me it's literally the greatest universal ruleset in existence, except for maybe FATE. maybe[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LiquidNazgul;40492846]Mandate using pre-made characters if at least half of the group, including yourself, is unfamiliar with Shadowrun 4th Edition. Character creation for that system is so convoluted it's not even funny, and the rules, while not difficult, suffers from the core book's poor organization. Start off with something simple for the first few missions---snatch and grab, courier runs, steal a prototype from X corporation, etc.
At least, that's what I try to do when introducing groups to new systems. Pregenerated characters, and a short but sweet scenario, so everyone can get accustomed to the rules and figure out if it's for them. If the group likes it, then I'll allow people to create their own characters in later sessions.
GURPS also natively supports clunkiness and complexity on a hithero unseen scale, not to mention the bad organization of the two core books, each of which are pretty lengthy tomes
What do you mean it "natively" supports something as dumb as that? Savage Worlds can do it just fine[/QUOTE]
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyHjMn2ALC4]i dont like you[/url]
[QUOTE=elowin;40503213][url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyHjMn2ALC4]i dont like you[/url][/QUOTE]
um what? I don't get it, why are you hunting down all of my posts where I do not give Pathfinder praise and/or suggest non-D&D systems?
[QUOTE=LiquidNazgul;40503952]um what? I don't get it, why are you hunting down all of my posts where I do not give Pathfinder praise and/or suggest non-D&D systems?[/QUOTE]
Because you and he have completely different gaming paradigms, and yours is antithetical to his?
[QUOTE=Oliolio;40504145]Because you and he have completely different gaming paradigms, and yours is antithetical to his?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, we have differing opinions on things. I kinda figured that a while ago, but that doesn't mean he has to not like me :(
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