Planetside 2 V6 - VS capped Indar? It's more likely than you think - Games

Honestly, the skyguard should be toned down a little bit against air, and buffed a bit against ground targets. As is, it scales horribly as soon as you have more than one or two in an area.

[QUOTE=Swilly;43950323] Also, just a note:It could be just as likely that the TR did a false flag. The Terran Republic is a militarized state. Its a fucking Military Junta, Space Ancient Rome, Heinlein's Wet Dream. They most likely have a democracy based on whether you fought or not, and depending on the position you'd need a certain number of victories and years of service. I also bet they trap people inside the military, give them a raise for signing back in but actually the money is worthless.[/QUOTE] How much is the NC paying you? Unlike you, we in the TR aren't greedy idiots who place money above peace and morality. [QUOTE=Blanketspace;43960587]I am significantly worried about the upcoming Liberator update, since they're already the #1 threat to my Galaxy.[/QUOTE] In my experience the biggest threat when flying is experienced fighter pilots.

[QUOTE=jiggu;43961391]I honestly don't get the issue with Daltons when flying. You will always have the upper hand to them, they can only hit you if you make a mistake. And forget them hitting you when you're unaware, the shell produces the most obvious sound in the history of Planetside. The Shredder on the other hand you can do nothing about because he can just spray and autocorrect his aim, no time in the world will make you dodge his shells.[/QUOTE] Its being used for something its not designed to do, I find Liberators focusing more on ESF's and Galaxies then god damn ground forces.

oh my god the jackhammer, this is my new favorite gun.

I think the issue as that they have precise weapons, and not enough health. If they had inaccurate spam bombs and a lot of health, they'd fit a more bomber-like role. But since they have pin-point AT sniper rifles, I can't blame them for hanging out up high and duking it out with other flying units. That and their gun choices don't really specialize them. Any of their guns are pretty great at killing everything. Dalton has splash, Zephyr can pierce armor pretty well, and the Shredder...well it shreds most things decently so I really can't complain; it's not too over the top in any direction.

I honestly think AA is too easy to come by, in relation to liberators. There really shouldn't be a dual purpose launcher, or at least, it should have severely restricted lockon capabilities. All ESF's can be taken out by small arms fire, but the liberator should require special attention.

[QUOTE=jiggu;43961391] You will always have the upper hand to them, [/QUOTE] Hilarious. Liberators are currently much more maneuverable than ESF because of their magical floaty powers of going belly up and not crashing into auraxis like a rock. That means if the belly is facing you they're turning the tank buster towards you, then once you're out of the sight of that it's belly up again and rinse repeat. It's a problem.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;43964673]How much is the NC paying you? Unlike you, we in the TR aren't greedy idiots who place money above peace and morality. [/QUOTE] They keep talking bonus checks but I never see them. [editline]18th February 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Ogopogo;43966364]I honestly think AA is too easy to come by, in relation to liberators. There really shouldn't be a dual purpose launcher, or at least, it should have severely restricted lockon capabilities. All ESF's can be taken out by small arms fire, but the liberator should require special attention.[/QUOTE] The problem is the people flying these fucking hunchbacks are usually level 100's specifically hunting other ESFs because it gives more certs. [editline]18th February 2014[/editline] I'm not saying the Lib doesn't have a place. [B]BUT WHEN IT CAN OUT FLY AND OUT DOGFIGHT FIGHTERS, you have issues.[/B]

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;43964673]How much is the NC paying you? Unlike you, we in the TR aren't greedy idiots who place money above peace and morality. In my experience the biggest threat when flying is experienced fighter pilots.[/QUOTE] A single experienced fighter pilot has absolutely no chance of killing my gal if I have both Walkers gunned. I mainly fly it as an anti-air vehicle, and I can usually down Mossies and Scythes pretty easily. I can down a lib around 70% of the time, but if there are two or more it's over instantly, and one can get me pretty solidly around 30% of the time.

I like the crossbow but now that I actually have it I'm having trouble really using it well with stalker cloak Or rather more specifically I'm just having trouble using stalker cloak effectivly period. I guess I'm just so used to hunter cloak at this point and how its uber at getting out of dodge or breaking through choke points It doesn't help how the cloak levels are totally fucking bugged though

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[QUOTE=Swilly;43964690]Its being used for something its not designed to do, I find Liberators focusing more on ESF's and Galaxies then god damn ground forces.[/QUOTE] Liberators are definately too strong against air, I am not denying that. I just don't see why people have Dalton issues when the Shredder poses far more threat. [editline]19th February 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=mooman1080;43966419]Hilarious. Liberators are currently much more maneuverable than ESF because of their magical floaty powers of going belly up and not crashing into auraxis like a rock. That means if the belly is facing you they're turning the tank buster towards you, then once you're out of the sight of that it's belly up again and rinse repeat. It's a problem.[/QUOTE] Liberators have never been more maneuverable, and never will be than an ESF. Don't fool yourself. If you get tankbusted you should stick to infantry, please stop. Sorry for being so condescending, but this is ridiculous.

[QUOTE=jiggu;43972150]Liberators are definately too strong against air, I am not denying that. I just don't see why people have Dalton issues when the Shredder poses far more threat. [editline]19th February 2014[/editline] Liberators have never been more maneuverable, and never will be than an ESF. Don't fool yourself. If you get tankbusted you should stick to infantry, please stop. Sorry for being so condescending, but this is ridiculous.[/QUOTE] The shredder poses more of a threat but the Dalton's burst damage is infuriating and it's far more useful against any possible target that the Liberator may encounter.

[QUOTE=Blanketspace;43972389]The shredder poses more of a threat but the Dalton's burst damage is infuriating and it's far more useful against any possible target that the Liberator may encounter.[/QUOTE] I ran simulations. First of all the Shredder is hands down more effective against ESF. and in Lib vs Lib the Dalton has a TTK of 2.5 and the Shredder has a 2.625 seconds. Vs a Galaxy the Dalton has a TTK of 12.5 and the Shredder 14.875 seconds. This is assuming you hit all shots with a Dalton, a Dalton is much less forgiving since you lose the entire potential damage of a magazine in one shot, whereas the Shredder can just readjust. The only real pro I can agree with going with the Dalton is that it's more [B]overall[/B] effective against ground targets than the Shredder.

I like to think of the Auraxis war as three University student roomates having an argument. TR is like! "FUCK! You guys never do the dishes, or clean up! You're always making a mess and lazing around watching TV! NC, you never do your chores and VS keeps hogging the internet! And you don't chip in to the food rota!" NC is like "Shut up! Who pout you in charge? Since when did we even HAVE these things! I'm my own man now! I'll buy my own food and do my own chores! Why do you get to choose who does what?" and VS is like "Guys can you just SHUT THE FUCK UP! I'm TRYING to study here! I have a BIG tech presentation to give tomorrow and I NEED to be ready for it!"

[QUOTE=jiggu;43972150] Liberators have never been more maneuverable, and never will be than an ESF. Don't fool yourself. If you get tankbusted you should stick to infantry, please stop. Sorry for being so condescending, but this is ridiculous.[/QUOTE] I think you misunderstood me, the tankbuster nosegun isn't the killer, the belly gun is, the tank buster is just a big enough threat that you can't realistically engage the lib from the front. When I say more maneuverable I am not saying they are out dog fighting an esf, I am saying they are capable of out hovering the esf easily by constantly facing the belly towards the esf. During a sideways hover of facing the belly they can turn and face the tank buster forward if they go too low, pressuring the esf in to realigning and giving the lib time to rise.

But the tank buster wont hit you even if you are in front of him because of the abysmal drop, spread and velocity. The only time a Lib will hit you with it is if you are literally up his grill or just hovering and getting pounced by a Liberator(that's like a Cheetah getting pounced by an elephant). And if he constantly keeps his belly up you can just force him down until he is either forced to stabilize or crash into the ground. You really do have the upper hand in an ESF, you just have to play around him. My only issue with Liberators going after ESF is that I have to focus on them, if you ignore a Lib you will die. ESF should be hunting Liberators(as SOE said), not the other way around.

[QUOTE=thisguy123;43973061]I like to think of the Auraxis war as three University student roomates having an argument. TR is like! "FUCK! You guys never do the dishes, or clean up! You're always making a mess and lazing around watching TV! NC, you never do your chores and VS keeps hogging the internet! And you don't chip in to the food rota!" NC is like "Shut up! Who pout you in charge? Since when did we even HAVE these things! I'm my own man now! I'll buy my own food and do my own chores! Why do you get to choose who does what?" and VS is like "Guys can you just SHUT THE FUCK UP! I'm TRYING to study here! I have a BIG tech presentation to give tomorrow and I NEED to be ready for it!"[/QUOTE] This is the best summary of the lore there is, tbh.

[QUOTE=jiggu;43975647]But the tank buster wont hit you even if you are in front of him because of the abysmal drop, spread and velocity. The only time a Lib will hit you with it is if you are literally up his grill or just hovering and getting pounced by a Liberator(that's like a Cheetah getting pounced by an elephant). And if he constantly keeps his belly up you can just force him down until he is either forced to stabilize or crash into the ground. You really do have the upper hand in an ESF, you just have to play around him. My only issue with Liberators going after ESF is that I have to focus on them, if you ignore a Lib you will die. ESF should be hunting Liberators(as SOE said), not the other way around.[/QUOTE] They wont crash because of rise after pulling out of the hover, and the tankbuster is for the fly by when they turn forward and rise. I don't see any upper hand, no matter what you do the lib will have plenty of time with the belly facing you. Hover they do the circling maneuver, chase they can nose down or slow then hover fight, constant fly byes gives them belly time when you pass them, or they chase so you don't have good approach time to pull around. It's heavily weighted in the libs favor, more health, more attack angles, stronger hover, stronger weapons. Small mistakes get the esf killed, the only small mistake that gets the lib killed is a bad hover that makes them crash, something good lib pilots don't fall for. [b]Edit:[/b] Also in other news the NC empire specific sniper rifle is now called the NC17 Railjack, which is a great name for a sniper rifle.

So the NC sniper has been renamed to the 'Railjack'. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RImAky8hsU[/media]

[QUOTE=Jimesu_Evil;43977860]So the NC sniper has been renamed to the 'Railjack'. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RImAky8hsU[/media][/QUOTE] that is fucking ridiculous

I can't see it going through. its a longshot upgrade bar the one shot you miss.

[QUOTE=jiggu;43972500]I ran simulations. First of all the Shredder is hands down more effective against ESF. and in Lib vs Lib the Dalton has a TTK of 2.5 and the Shredder has a 2.625 seconds. Vs a Galaxy the Dalton has a TTK of 12.5 and the Shredder 14.875 seconds. This is assuming you hit all shots with a Dalton, a Dalton is much less forgiving since you lose the entire potential damage of a magazine in one shot, whereas the Shredder can just readjust. The only real pro I can agree with going with the Dalton is that it's more [B]overall[/B] effective against ground targets than the Shredder.[/QUOTE] We're talking ESFs, Dalton's one shot ESFs and they also are faster and more maneuverable then Galaxy's. Stop doing doing TTK bullshit that doesn't account for movements.

[QUOTE=DeeCeeTeeBee;43977892]that is fucking ridiculous[/QUOTE] They're not even trying to hide it. [QUOTE=thisguy123;43973061]I like to think of the Auraxis war as three University student roomates having an argument.[/QUOTE] TR pays the rent so he has the right to kick them out and live alone but no, the NC and VS are acting like this is some kind of sitcom and have started drawing lines around the apartment.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;43978635]They're not even trying to hide it. [/QUOTE] Actually higby tweeted that they're holding the sniper rifles back, again.

So, I reinstalled today. I had numerous moments of badassery, and probably hundreds more of incompetence. It seems like every time I try and kill someone (with stock weapons, the odd scope attached to one or two of them), they instantly spin around and shred my face with advanced, high rate of fire weaponry. It is fucking frustrating. I haven't spent a dime on this game yet (and unless things turn around, I certainly do not plan to), and it seems like everyone is just better than me period and I only get kills when I have an extreme advantage (catch them by surprise at low HP) or just plain dumb luck (some idiot walking in front of my bullet). Can someone take me under their wing and give me tips of how to not suck? My only character is on NC with battle rank 5 (I am not terribly attached to him, so I would be willing to replace him or simply ignore him). I just want to fill a relatively important support niche role without constantly getting served my lead ridden ass on a silver platter.

[QUOTE=Swilly;43978461]We're talking ESFs, Dalton's one shot ESFs and they also are faster and more maneuverable then Galaxy's. Stop doing doing TTK bullshit that doesn't account for movements.[/QUOTE] That post has nothing to do with you, what are you talking about. [editline]20th February 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=mooman1080;43976291]They wont crash because of rise after pulling out of the hover, and the tankbuster is for the fly by when they turn forward and rise. I don't see any upper hand, no matter what you do the lib will have plenty of time with the belly facing you. Hover they do the circling maneuver, chase they can nose down or slow then hover fight, constant fly byes gives them belly time when you pass them, or they chase so you don't have good approach time to pull around. It's heavily weighted in the libs favor, more health, more attack angles, stronger hover, stronger weapons. Small mistakes get the esf killed, the only small mistake that gets the lib killed is a bad hover that makes them crash, something good lib pilots don't fall for. [b]Edit:[/b] Also in other news the NC empire specific sniper rifle is now called the NC17 Railjack, which is a great name for a sniper rifle.[/QUOTE] Alright, I give up. No facts will prove to you that you are just doing it wrong it seems. Keep dying to Liberators if you will, I know I wont.

[QUOTE=Lyonidis;43980173]So, I reinstalled today. I had numerous moments of badassery, and probably hundreds more of incompetence. It seems like every time I try and kill someone (with stock weapons, the odd scope attached to one or two of them), they instantly spin around and shred my face with advanced, high rate of fire weaponry. It is fucking frustrating. I haven't spent a dime on this game yet (and unless things turn around, I certainly do not plan to), and it seems like everyone is just better than me period and I only get kills when I have an extreme advantage (catch them by surprise at low HP) or just plain dumb luck (some idiot walking in front of my bullet). Can someone take me under their wing and give me tips of how to not suck? My only character is on NC with battle rank 5 (I am not terribly attached to him, so I would be willing to replace him or simply ignore him). I just want to fill a relatively important support niche role without constantly getting served my lead ridden ass on a silver platter.[/QUOTE] If you, A.) Play as a medic most of the time B.) Like battle rifles C.) Like wrecking shit with minimal effort Then you should get the Reaper DMR. It used to be average, but now it can put whole squads down in a little over a magazine if you hit right. Alternatively, medics and engies in and of themselves are obviously pretty good support roles. You can almost earn just as many points as the frontline troops without ever firing a shot, AND you feel like you really help the team.

[QUOTE=Pilotguy97;43981211]If you, A.) Play as a medic most of the time B.) Like battle rifles C.) Like wrecking shit with minimal effort Then you should get the Reaper DMR. It used to be average, but now it can put whole squads down in a little over a magazine if you hit right. Alternatively, medics and engies in and of themselves are obviously pretty good support roles. You can almost earn just as many points as the frontline troops without ever firing a shot, AND you feel like you really help the team.[/QUOTE] What if I'm on TR and I like all of the above points.

[QUOTE=Kebab;43981460]What if I'm on TR and I like all of the above points.[/QUOTE] Then it becomes a two-step process. But luckily, you already did step one by joining TR. 1.) Get red 2.) Get dead (Seriously though, I've no idea. I've been NC and nothing else since the first wave of the closed beta. Not to mention I play on Connery where TR fights like goddamn partisans)