Break a hero by changing one of their abilities

[Rarara]

[QUOTE=AbeX300;41541945]Not to mention the Agility you get, which actually gives you a total of 26 damage at the start of the game.

And probably by then, lets assume Level 20 because Soldier is purely broken, you'd have 86 Agility (10 from leveling up your Attribute Bonus), which means the damage would be [b]519[/b]. You'd also have 101 IAS, so your Attacks per Second would be 10.05 (Attack Interval would be ~0.099s), but I think there is a true cap to it, which I think is 0.17s. If so, you'd be dealing 3050 damage (minus the possible mini-bashes). If not, [b]5216[/b].

Of course, this is all not taking into the account of what enemy Heroes' Armor are, but given that the Soldier is so broken he could literally just level up and farm faster than any other Hero in the game (which is the point of this thread!), they'll all be dead.

Unless they somehow have sufficient amount of Armor. Like maybe over 30.[/QUOTE]

What if they just ganked the shit out of him early, 5man every time, many good stuns etc?
He wouldn't be able to lasthit effectively at all, and he couldn't jungle due to being squishy and needing levels, so if he has no heroes to harass hes stuck leeching xp until he gets his skills up and trying very hard to last hit creeps with that 20-24 damage (slippers, and most last hits happen before 0,8 seconds)
It'd just be to rush a buckler, vlads and assault cuirass for everlasting armor.

[[Green]]

Guys you're ignoring that he COULD get Desolator just to fuck with you. Give him a damage item, a blink dagger and a desolator and you will never ever escape this fucker in time.
Plus if he deals 130 dps at level 1. Give him a fucking Quelling Blade and he could jungle EASILY. With every level his right click becomes more and more monstrous. After he gets something like a lifesteal item, it's GG. Like Mask of Madness = gg instantly. Activate Berserk and it doesn't matter how fucking desperately you rush him. All he needs are slows from his teammates and he will only see sitting ducks, not enemies.

Although he'd still be a carry. By killing his farm he couldn't get good enough DPS or he'd be so slow and squishy his damage output wouldn't be enough. Regardless, he'd be broken as FUCK.

But hey, what if we changed Lycan to have a different summon wolves? Instead of the old ones dying, he could stack them indefinitely. At level 1 they have 300 second lifespan, at level 2 3000 and at level 3 and 4 they last indefinitely. Better rush that Vlads and get that pushing with your horde of like 50 invisible wolves.

[AbeX300]

[QUOTE='[Green];41542645']Guys you're ignoring that he COULD get Desolator just to fuck with you. Give him a damage item, a blink dagger and a desolator and you will never ever escape this fucker in time.
Plus if he deals 130 dps at level 1. Give him a fucking Quelling Blade and he could jungle EASILY. With every level his right click becomes more and more monstrous. After he gets something like a lifesteal item, it's GG. Like Mask of Madness = gg instantly. Activate Berserk and it doesn't matter how fucking desperately you rush him. All he needs are slows from his teammates and he will only see sitting ducks, not enemies.

Although he'd still be a carry. By killing his farm he couldn't get good enough DPS or he'd be so slow and squishy his damage output wouldn't be enough. Regardless, he'd be broken as FUCK.

But hey, what if we changed Lycan to have a different summon wolves? Instead of the old ones dying, he could stack them indefinitely. At level 1 they have 300 second lifespan, at level 2 3000 and at level 3 and 4 they last indefinitely. Better rush that Vlads and get that pushing with your horde of like 50 invisible wolves.[/QUOTE]

It seems that at Level 4, the Soldier's attack speed suddenly jumps up quite a bit, and can mini-stunlock creeps at that point. That is assuming there is no Agility items, so simply buying a Quelling Blade and 2 Slippers of Agility will have you set, then getting Lifesteal on top of that will make it all better.

Also, imagine having a [b]huge[/b] circle of wolves blocking your Ancient, and when the enemy manages to destroy all of the mid towers, you can just [b]mob[/b] them and push your way to victory.

[[Green]]

[QUOTE=AbeX300;41543061]It seems that at Level 4, the Soldier's attack speed suddenly jumps up quite a bit, and can mini-stunlock creeps at that point. That is assuming there is no Agility items, so simply buying a Quelling Blade and 2 Slippers of Agility will have you set, then getting Lifesteal on top of that will make it all better.

Also, imagine having a [b]huge[/b] circle of wolves blocking your Ancient, and when the enemy manages to destroy all of the mid towers, you can just [b]mob[/b] them and push your way to victory.[/QUOTE]

Dotacraft II: Heart of the Pack
Summoned wolves are now called Wolflings.

[D34L3R]

switch rikimaru's ultimate with Drows. No more permanent invisibility = dead riki.

[Rarara]

[QUOTE=D34L3R;41543741]switch rikimaru's ultimate with Drows. No more permanent invisibility = dead riki.[/QUOTE]

Actually, if you removed the fact that it disappears in melee range, it'd be the most OP bullshit of all time.
Invisibility is rikis 3rd best skill, not best by a long shot.

[[Green]]

Meanwhile Drow would get a free Shadow Blade essentially.

[That Sprite]

-wait you guys aren't actually criticising it-

[AbeX300]

Weaver's Germinate now no longer has a cooldown. Instead, leveling it up increases the amount of dispatched swarms, up to five dispatched swarms per attack.

[Kirseva]

Haunt illusions take 20% damage and deal 500% damage and lasts until the illusions die.

[justaris]

Every consecutively headshot by sniper increase the damage by 100%.

[arandomu]

Drunken Haze makes the enemy extremely drunk, and makes them move around in different directions and cast spells randomly (spells may also hit allies)

If a Melee unit were to attack Brewmaster with Drunken Brawler, instead of Brewmaster dodging the attack, he will roundhouse kick the enemy in the face, dealing the critical damage and applying MS and AS slow equal to the current level of Thunder Clap.

[aaakm1995]

timber saw Reactive Armor now it will give you also 10 mana regen per sec

[[Green]]

[QUOTE=Arandomu;41549850]Drunken Haze makes the enemy extremely drunk, and makes them move around in different directions and cast spells randomly (spells may also hit allies)

If a Melee unit were to attack Brewmaster with Drunken Brawler, instead of Brewmaster dodging the attack, he will roundhouse kick the enemy in the face, dealing the critical damage and applying MS and AS slow equal to the current level of Thunder Clap.[/QUOTE]

Thunder Clap is now a constant debuff that makes Bremaster scratch his groin every 500 units he travels. The scratching immobilizes him and takes away all player control. This can be spread to enemy units by attacking them repeatedly when nobody else is within 700 units. This will trigger the "forced sexual intercourse" debuff which will transfer Thunder Clap as a permanent debuff to the enemy. With each attack there is a 50% of the debuff activating.

[Gar~]

Greater Bash now deals Physical damage.

[_Kilburn]

[QUOTE=AbeX300;41548315]Weaver's Germinate now no longer has a cooldown.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AbeX300;41548315]Germinate[/QUOTE]

[img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/emoot/argh.gif[/img]

Also, Timbersaw's Chakram is now considered a tree by Timber Chain and Whirling Death (except those two abilities don't destroy it, of course).

[[Green]]

Doom's Devour has a 15 second CD at highest level and grants 3x normal experience as well as having no mana cost. When used on heroes instead of creeps, it consumes all buffs they have for 30 seconds. This includes auras and passives.

[AbeX300]

[QUOTE=_Kilburn;41552629][img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/emoot/argh.gif[/img][/QUOTE]

What, I can't have just one word of the skill name? ;_;

Treant Protector's Nature's Guise now causes all of the trees to be indestructible illusions during the duration.

[Rarara]

[QUOTE=AbeX300;41553306]What, I can't have just one word of the skill name? ;_;

Treant Protector's Nature's Guise now causes all of the trees to be indestructible illusions during the duration.[/QUOTE]

Geminate, not germinate.

[AbeX300]

[QUOTE=Rarara;41553326]Geminate, not germinate.[/QUOTE]

Geminate is now Germinate and causes it to inflict Nethertoxin on enemies. With twice the effect.

[Maxumym]

[QUOTE=Rarara;41553326]Geminate, not germinate.[/QUOTE]

As in "Gemini"

[Rarara]

Contaminate?

[Lexi]

hand of midas works on the ancient

[Lorr]

Timbersaw's Timber Chain now works like Magnus's Skewer in the sense that it pulls along enemies he catches in front of him.

[[Green]]

Borrowed Time is now a passive ability that turns all damage into healing and healing into damage. Basically if there's an Enchantress on the field, you're going to get nuked. Hard.

[Pocket Medic]

[QUOTE='[Green];41564137']Borrowed Time is now a passive ability that turns all damage into healing and healing into damage. Basically if there's an Enchantress on the field, you're going to get nuked. Hard.[/QUOTE]

Darklight?

[MasterAenox]

Switch Storm Spirit's 2º ability for ezalor's mana spell

[suttles]

[QUOTE=MasterAenox;41571469]Switch Storm Spirit's 2º ability for ezalor's mana spell[/QUOTE]

why

[VulpesGrey]

[QUOTE=MasterAenox;41571469]Switch Storm Spirit's 2º ability for ezalor's mana spell[/QUOTE]

if there's any spell to ditch it'd be static remnant

its only real uses for most the game are vision (the remnant gives NUMBER flying vision) and overload procs (it works as long as you cast a spell, mana cost irrelevant)

[suttles]

[QUOTE=devon_wargod;41573660]if there's any spell to ditch it'd be static remnant

its only real uses for most the game are vision (the remnant gives NUMBER flying vision) and overload procs (it works as long as you cast a spell, mana cost irrelevant)[/QUOTE]

and the damage

it also makes you do a shitload of dps as long as you don't clip it