Paradox Interactive Thread: V2 The cartographers nightmare. - Games

I felt that Sengoku was best summed up as a tech demo for CKII. I mean, it was still enjoyable but it was quite shallow. I wouldn't spend more than $5 or so on it.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;43648454] Is Sengoku any good? I've heard that its more complicated than HoI3.[/QUOTE]There's nothing special about Sengoku in my opinion. It's like a barebone version of CK2 with less features and broken diplomacy/plots, which I guess you could say it was pretty much just a small test run for CK2. There's a overhaull mod on the paradox forum that's a absolute must to play with, otherwise you'll be left with a pretty lackluster game. If you're not really interested in that period of Japan then I wouldn't bother with it.

I hope the military wont be as oh god why complex as it is in HoI 3

[QUOTE=DrugUnit;43649666]I hope the military wont be as oh god why complex as it is in HoI 3[/QUOTE] I hope its just as complex, it could be quite fulfilling before and after major invasions to reorganise the front and to see all those beautiful connections between HQ units. Though, I could just be crazy.

Sengoku is a fairly simple wargame, not really a political simulator. The interesting thing about it is that levies and fort defenders are the basically same resource, and therefore warfare is about 1. not recruiting troops in frontline provinces, and 2. assaulting all the enemy provinces from where they raised their troops as they are captured very easily. Plots are bare bones, and basically amount to promises of allegiance for the next war. That does mean you can take down huge clans by forming a plot with half of his vassals, and then when you go to war they all join your side, and become your subjects when you win. Disclaimer: as of release version. Maybe patches changed or added some mechanics.

Just had a 15 year long world war that had numerous phases, coutnries leaving, then entering after the truce time was up, all this shit. Multi million man, years long battles, all this shit. Japan marching across literally all of Russia, so much shit. Minimum casualty scale is 35 million military, high scale goes to 50 million military. Also im getting 250k growth atm.

[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;43651260]Just had a 15 year long world war that had numerous phases, coutnries leaving, then entering after the truce time was up, all this shit. Multi million man, years long battles, all this shit. Japan marching across literally all of Russia, so much shit. Minimum casualty scale is 35 million military, high scale goes to 50 million military. Also im getting 250k growth atm.[/QUOTE] before or after pics?

got back into m&b warband recently starting as a woman commoner was not a very good decision but i am determined to stick with it

Protectorates in Eu4 are so silly with the AI. Get positive relations with any backwards country and they'll happily give up their trade power. The great Ming Dynasty happily made me the worlds richest nation because of +1 relations.

[QUOTE=Ganix565;43651725]got back into m&b warband recently starting as a woman commoner was not a very good decision but i am determined to stick with it[/QUOTE] There is a mount and blade thread you know :D

[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;43651260]Just had a 15 year long world war that had numerous phases, coutnries leaving, then entering after the truce time was up, all this shit. Multi million man, years long battles, all this shit. Japan marching across literally all of Russia, so much shit. Minimum casualty scale is 35 million military, high scale goes to 50 million military. Also im getting 250k growth atm.[/QUOTE] What started it? Please tell me it was something dumb.

Did a hands off Darkest Hour + New World Order Mod game overnight, started in 1933 with Communist Germany, World War 2 broke out sometime in the mid 30s Between the Allies and Germany+Soviet Union and some surrounded nations that had coups. It is current 1967, current state of Europe (nothing really changed outside of Europe). Sorry for the jpeg compression, I have not reinstalled Fraps so I'm using puush Political Map of Europe [t]http://puu.sh/6wnij[/t] NATO [img]http://puu.sh/6wnjS[/img] WARSAW [img]http://puu.sh/6wnjp[/img] Also a truely multinational force of communists, haha. [t]http://puu.sh/6wngf[/t] Almost all the Warsaw Pact countries (Including the Soviet Union) are Lenist instead of Stalinist interestingly enough. Probably because Stalin is dead. Nukes have been thrown around, but mostly the US against Germany. The Allies have invaded Sweden. The allies are not at war with Japan, and as you can see Japan has lost the land war in China but they are still fighting. Canada, the USA, the UK and the Soviet Union are all researching Lunar Landing.

So I've just gotten Victoria 2, I have no idea what to do. I have in the past played Darkest Hour, Hearts of Iron 3, Crusader Kings 2 and Europa Universalis 4 with great success. Which country do I play as and what do I do first?

[QUOTE=bdd458;43652552]There is a mount and blade thread you know :D[/QUOTE] my mistake sir

[QUOTE=Virtanen;43655079]So I've just gotten Victoria 2, I have no idea what to do. I have in the past played Darkest Hour, Hearts of Iron 3, Crusader Kings 2 and Europa Universalis 4 with great success. Which country do I play as and what do I do first?[/QUOTE]Just a quick question, do you have either of the expansions or no?

[QUOTE=Virtanen;43655079]So I've just gotten Victoria 2, I have no idea what to do. I have in the past played Darkest Hour, Hearts of Iron 3, Crusader Kings 2 and Europa Universalis 4 with great success. Which country do I play as and what do I do first?[/QUOTE] For all expansions the best starter countries are the USA and France. Remember to get that romanticism and not neglect military technology. You should be able to figure it out just by playing.

[QUOTE=kamikaze470;43655326]Just a quick question, do you have either of the expansions or no?[/QUOTE] both

So is Runemaster a CKII expansion according to that picture a few pages back? also debating: Do I want to buy EU4 or just play modded CK2...both have some things I like, and I got into CK2 much more than I did with EU3. Optimistic for CK2 with mods and artistic for buying EU4?

[QUOTE=Masamune;43656128]So is Runemaster a CKII expansion according to that picture a few pages back? also debating: Do I want to buy EU4 or just play modded CK2...both have some things I like, and I got into CK2 much more than I did with EU3. Optimistic for CK2 with mods and artistic for buying EU4?[/QUOTE] Runemaster is it's own game, the CK2 expansion adds India to the map, apparently adding half the size of the original map on top of the original map or something.

[QUOTE=DanRatherman;43651456]before or after pics?[/QUOTE] I got off right as the war ended. I'm waiting for the event to fire in PDM regarding dismantling nations. [editline]24th January 2014[/editline] Eh. I didnt get before or after pics, but basically it was fought by an almost completed Nationalist China over Manchuko, I was allies with Japan, Nationalist China was allied with Supergermany (This is an alternate history mod under the title counterfactual history and a lot of the countries are different. I'm playing as a country that existed if the Dutch held onto the English crown and things like the colony at Manhattan continuing to exist. The colony is the northeast American provinces called the united provinces, I basically conquered a lot of America or made it puppetstates, I'll see if I have some saves from before it all went to war. I edited the end date to be at Y2K and WW4 was fought from 1948 to 1960.) Heres a steammessage I gave to a friend about it all. [quote]World war 4 has been going on forever man. Like over 15 years and all these phases. I got dragged into it and it was all these guys with me vs super Germany and super China and were fighting all over Russia and east Asia and Africa and eastern Europe and after some time they bring others in and I squash those while I made an eastern retreat with my back to the sea and it was like in this phase, Europe was like phony war,I had naval suprem and my eastern Europe allies were knocked out so I'm focusing on western European diplomacy and waiting to bring these guys back in with a couple more. Anyway, backs to the sea by north Korean border, Japan and I were both kind of squashed back and I set my guys up and there this battle, outnumbered 250k to 900k and they kept bringing reinforcements in, then to the east, 2.5 mil them vs 60k, then 300k and I'm bringing more and more guys in and the odds are bad but my commanders hold out, this battle has been going on for just years. Ww3 was kind of weird as well. It was over Ukraine liberating prvinces from Poland and all the powers were in it and it was sort of even on land, back and forth stuff, that was broken by Japan marching several million guys across literally all of Russia. [/quote] [editline]24th January 2014[/editline] [t]http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/613915113404291232/B8F23543EAC459FBBCBFBD65C1AC6EF9A46B0880/[/t] Dat growth and dat debt from funding everyone. But yeah, was sort of freaking out since it was 150k vs 900k and I was ferrying guys over, so the battlegroup eventually reached 300k, then to the east while I'm getting more guys in, suddenly two million chinamen are storming my 60k column. It's PDM btw. [editline]24th January 2014[/editline] This is sort of it, but the numbers on the left are pretty off. [img]http://puu.sh/6wBqS.png[/img] That bring them down to like 450k from 2 mil to 2.5 mil. [editline]24th January 2014[/editline] I'd say that the strength of Superchina and Super Germany probably pushed me to where I was actually in a state of total war and it was felt by my nation. Before I'd send my navy in and would fight with the colonials and send a couple hundred thousand guys to Europe under desperate odds and they'd do pretty decent. But this one? Lots of colonial troops, lots of native troops, fighting in America, Fighting in South America, fighting everywhere, Losing hundreds of thousands and raising up more and more troops, but I never conscript. My nation is always volunteer and I pride myself in having the ability to recruit and prepare for war without decimating my soldier population. I'm very careful, almost OCD about my soldier population.

I just looked up that mod, the countries he created and the mishmashed "release everything!" idea he has going on makes my head hurt.

so what exactly am I doing wrong here? [t]http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/3299186391191564523/EC4D2983B4BD7410BB060A6B13B2D55C8E8564B2/[/t]

losing money

[QUOTE=Virtanen;43657145]so what exactly am I doing wrong here? [t]http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/3299186391191564523/EC4D2983B4BD7410BB060A6B13B2D55C8E8564B2/[/t][/QUOTE]The military stockpile sliders are crazy high so I'd lower them seeing as that's a big strain on your budget. And don't tax the rich and middle classes so high, rich should be little to none and middle should be at least 37%-40%. Poor should be also maxed out, also after you're done with that military tech research one of the tax tech under commerce and when thats finished move around tax sliders a bit since there's a bug that causes POPs to starve when a new tax tech is researched (I think?). Other things you should reconsider is putting bureaucracy to 63% and move education up a bit.

[QUOTE=kamikaze470;43657483]The military stockpile sliders are crazy high so I'd lower them seeing as that's a big strain on your budget. And don't tax the rich and middle classes so high, rich should be little to none and middle should be at least 37%-40%. Poor should be also maxed out, also after you're done with that military tech research one of the tax tech under commerce and when thats finished move around tax sliders a bit since there's a bug that causes POPs to starve when a new tax tech is researched (I think?). Other things you should reconsider is putting bureaucracy to 63% and move education up a bit.[/QUOTE] ah yeah that did it, thanks

[QUOTE=Virtanen;43657145]so what exactly am I doing wrong here? [t]http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/3299186391191564523/EC4D2983B4BD7410BB060A6B13B2D55C8E8564B2/[/t][/QUOTE] Can anyone explain tarrifs for me in detail? I dont understand, if i crank up the slider to max i gain a lot of money but i can't see any disadvantages or anything bad happening because of that but it can't be just that... Can it? What does it do?

[QUOTE=Adarrek;43658957]Can anyone explain tarrifs for me in detail? I dont understand, if i crank up the slider to max i gain a lot of money but i can't see any disadvantages or anything bad happening because of that but it can't be just that... Can it? What does it do?[/QUOTE] Tariffs are exactly what they are: increasing the price of foreign trade goods into the country, so if you have any factories or artisans that rely on foreign trade goods to make their stuff, their goods are gonna get a lot more expensive. This usually results in nobody buying their shit, and they go bankrupt. Long story short, never increase tariffs more than 10% as it just starves your economy. If you have a surplus in money, it's beneficial to have negative tariffs to cheapen goods.

I generally try to keep tariffs high unless so that I can kill off my artisans and so that pops don't buy from the evil enemy which is everybody else.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;43659357]I generally try to keep tariffs high unless so that I can kill off my artisans and so that pops don't buy from the evil enemy which is everybody else.[/QUOTE] That's true, if you have a strong raw goods market then by all means, increase the tariffs, but if you're a small country that produces only wheat and cattle, you're gonna want to incite those foreign goods.

[QUOTE=gonedead0;43659319]Tariffs are exactly what they are: increasing the price of foreign trade goods into the country, so if you have any factories or artisans that rely on foreign trade goods to make their stuff, their goods are gonna get a lot more expensive. This usually results in nobody buying their shit, and they go bankrupt. Long story short, never increase tariffs more than 10% as it just starves your economy. If you have a surplus in money, it's beneficial to have negative tariffs to cheapen goods.[/QUOTE]Even having it at 10% max is too damn risky imo. I never set tariffs past 1% since it always tends to severely harm my industry. Same with lowering tariffs, I don't like to set it past -2% since it tends to have a negative impact on the industry.