Paradox Interactive Thread: V2 The cartographers nightmare. - Games

[QUOTE=scout1;41477952]I was made to understand that running subsidized factories for extended periods of time eventually puts your economy into an out of control boom and bust cycle.[/QUOTE] [img]http://www.raptisrarebooks.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hayek.jpg[/img] Why didn't you listen?

I find it really difficult to play Vicky2 without at least some subsidizing. I think I'm still scarred from pre-AHD times when Laissez Faire meant capitalists would spend their entire time opening shitty factories that make no money and immediately shut down again, causing mass unemployment and a collapse of my country's industry.

I tried out Laissez Faire with China after modernizing it before AHD. Oh the nightmares.

Is there any way to get Britain to go back to absolute monarchy in Vicky 2 or is government reversals impossible? I think I'm goin to try to recreate the Britannian Empire but I can't do that with the pesky HM's Government in my way.

My impression was that you just had to continuously revoke the constitutional aspects of the government like voting rights and what not and you would be automatically switched to it. Never tried that so, just a guess.

[QUOTE=Frayyyy;41480871]I tried out Laissez Faire with China after modernizing it before AHD. Oh the nightmares.[/QUOTE] Running China's industrializing economy is a nightmare no matter which economic system you embrace.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;41477939]Encouraging capitalists through national focuses and no taxation from the very beginning is the best to get a strong efficient economy running.[/quote]I do this occasionally to regions that don't have capitalists, but ultimately it's a waste. Capitalists gradually take interest in regions on their own record, from what I've gathered. [quote]Micromanaging an economy is almost Impossible in Vicky 2.[/quote]If you're anything other than lassie fairez or interventionism, maybe. [QUOTE=scout1;41477952]I was made to understand that running subsidized factories for extended periods of time eventually puts your economy into an out of control boom and bust cycle.[/QUOTE]This is correct. [QUOTE=RearAdmiral;41480021]I find it really difficult to play Vicky2 without at least some subsidizing. I think I'm still scarred from pre-AHD times when Laissez Faire meant capitalists would spend their entire time opening shitty factories that make no money and immediately shut down again, causing mass unemployment and a collapse of my country's industry.[/QUOTE]I don't have HOD so I can't comment on that, in my experience AHD Laissez Faire is actually quite decent, just try not sticking to it too long or it'll wreck your country in the long run.

I think my best economic run was as Japan. I basically had 0% tariffs, taxes on low and middle classes to generate income, barely anything on the rich, and I subsidized everything. I ran a budget surplus until 1908, when the costs of social reforms and education + military brought about a deficit. By 1915, I was in serious trouble and I was forced to enact austerity or face going bankrupt. (I was also going to war with China and Korea all the time and spamming dreadnoughts, so that may have impacted it). My industrial score dropped from 3000 to 1400 points, unemployment went up to about 20%, and the fascists managed to get elected. I also managed to have my navy crushed by China (they somehow westernized and sent 60 dreadnoughts after me). I did manage to start recovering by the 1930s though. I shut down a lot of the shitty old factories and started to build new ones en masse whilst borrowing money to pay for their construction (electric goods, cars, tanks, aeroplanes, etc tended to be profitable) and by the end of the game my industrial score managed to recover to about 2500.

[QUOTE=kamikaze470;41483346]I don't have HOD so I can't comment on that, in my experience AHD Laissez Faire is actually quite decent, just try not sticking to it too long or it'll wreck your country in the long run.[/QUOTE] AHD made Laissez Faire a lot more viable. Before it was awful and one of the reasons I wished I could just round up liberals and shoot them.

[QUOTE=RearAdmiral;41484569]AHD made Laissez Faire a lot more viable. Before it was awful and one of the reasons I wished I could just round up liberals and shoot them.[/QUOTE] Well you could through events...

So how did they improve Capitalist's opening factories in AHD? Do they actually open factories now rather than sitting on their asses for years? I managed to form Italy one time as Sardinia-Piedmont after Russia destroyed most of Austria's military and I was able to take over enough land. I was lucky enough to get heaps of cash flowing from a few Canned Food factories but I got early Liberalisation and while I only had a few token social reforms, I got stuck with the Reformist party who mandated Laissez-Faire and anti-military. The anti-military didn't hurt too bad because Austria was still getting buttfucked but the Capitalists just sat on their asses and didn't open a single factory despite unemployment and my economic outlook getting worse and worse, I had to set my focuses encouraging people to be farmers in the hope it would help. I gave up around the time Reactionary rebels starting propping up and my military was fucked.

[img]http://i.minus.com/iewQFduaz6AF4.jpg[/img] What do you want, France? [img]http://i.minus.com/iogfAGR4PUfMz.jpg[/img] Not like the British are strong militarily-wise, this shouldn't be much of a problem. [img]http://i.minus.com/iHaQ1TqrRniKt.jpg[/img] Oh.

[QUOTE=Devodiere;41487129]So how did they improve Capitalist's opening factories in AHD? Do they actually open factories now rather than sitting on their asses for years? I managed to form Italy one time as Sardinia-Piedmont after Russia destroyed most of Austria's military and I was able to take over enough land. I was lucky enough to get heaps of cash flowing from a few Canned Food factories but I got early Liberalisation and while I only had a few token social reforms, I got stuck with the Reformist party who mandated Laissez-Faire and anti-military. The anti-military didn't hurt too bad because Austria was still getting buttfucked but the Capitalists just sat on their asses and didn't open a single factory despite unemployment and my economic outlook getting worse and worse, I had to set my focuses encouraging people to be farmers in the hope it would help. I gave up around the time Reactionary rebels starting propping up and my military was fucked.[/QUOTE] When I play (HoD), I tend to see them actually open useful factories. Sometimes they don't last, but in general the new factories tend to be self-sustainable. Don't know if that's because of AHD or HoD, though.

[video=youtube;ZlcscBCW4DQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlcscBCW4DQ[/video]

The Great War has been waging on for the past four years, with good progress by the tripe alliance. Although, France peaced out of the conflict for some bizarre reason, leaving behind only Poland and I to shoulder responsibility. With the French backing out, this forced me to divert some armies to reoccupy the Baltic provinces they otherwise left behind. Luckily the Russian military is in a state of disarray, since their fighting force has been halved in the first years of the war and what reminds now are a bunch of ragtag defeatists. So far they've never been able to secure any decisive victory aside from token battles against allied forces in the Southern front, where the worst of the fighting is currently happening. Consequently, the Polish war machine is beginning to show signs of being worn out, thus making me march more armies southward to supplement what's left of the Pole's combat capacity. [img]http://i.minus.com/i9oywrCxohfU2.png[/img]

[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;41475966]I think the biggest thing for me is just how the British have fucking Gibraltar :v:[/QUOTE] I changed Granada's capital to Gibraltar. They lost all their provinces except Gibraltar to Spain and Britain made them his vassal, which lead them to be annexed later. So yeah, you can blame me for that.

One of these things is not like the others. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/mDaUBrt.png[/IMG]

Thinking of starting a mega Campaign who should I play as and what should the rules be other than no cheats.

[QUOTE=The Haski;41513224]Thinking of starting a mega Campaign who should I play as and what should the rules be other than no cheats.[/QUOTE]Don't WC, you'll get bored as hell otherwise. Refrain from overcolonizing Expand only if ambitious trait Limit sending merchants everywhere Only expand if cored provinces Restrict yourself to a handful of vassals Just a few suggestions, that's what I did in my current mega campaign anyway. Ultimately just have fun and stick to some goal like preserving your dynasty until EU3 or something. But really I'd just suggest trying not to WC. [editline]18th July 2013[/editline] And try not to savescum, you gotta live with the consequences.

WC? What's that?

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;41513693]WC? What's that?[/QUOTE]World conquest

Kamakazie. Can you upload a map of your whole world?

[QUOTE=The Haski;41513224]Thinking of starting a mega Campaign who should I play as and what should the rules be other than no cheats.[/QUOTE] I must firmly emphasize Kamikaze saying NO WORLD CONQUESTS. Ruins the game unless you try to do something to break things up along the way. For example I played as a rejuvenated al-Andalus which conquered North Africa and Southern France and I "ended" my CKII stage when my Sultan died and started EU3 with the realm being fractured into a ton of different independent realms caught in civil war. You could also simply change states between games and attempt to turn another peoples' destiny around. Best house rule for CKII is just to simply play the character. Ambitious as Kamikaze said, zealous rulers should frequently war against heathens and heretics, brave rulers should always lead the army, wroth/cruel should simply be cruel, etc. Again, Kamikaze is right about colonization in EU3. Try to roleplay through the story of your state and pick/act appropriately to the national ideas you have. Since the games are still loosely bound to our timeline, if you know anything about the history of the various periods they could inspire you to act similarly in your own timeline. [editline]18th July 2013[/editline] Actually I just remembered an old AAR for EU3 that I read. The premise was that he would jump between countries every 50/75/100 years or so. I think that would make for an awesome experience and good stories on EU3 even if you aren't following up on your success in CKII.

[QUOTE=VOSK;41513942]Kamakazie. Can you upload a map of your whole world?[/QUOTE][t]http://i.imgur.com/xUXus9R.jpg[/t] Have current GPs-SPs and Great War statistics too. [img]http://i.minus.com/iMpYkLPsJyFqh.jpg[/img][img]http://i.minus.com/iICz40frjxImk.jpg[/img]

Not sure anyone here's too good with modding but I might as well ask. In Vicky 2 I'm trying to add a few effects that seem to be only found in the technology and inventions to some modifiers. Things like changing specific production out put levels and modifying military unit stats. I thought it'd just be a matter of getting the right scope but it looks like a completely different set of effects. Any way to bridge them or am I going to have to try and force and manage specific inventions?

And so a tiny ass country in the balkans caused the biggest war [img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/v2_12.bmp[/img] [img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/v2_21.bmp[/img]

[QUOTE=kamikaze470;41516571][img]http://i.minus.com/iICz40frjxImk.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Oh my God. You have to tell me how to get that. I've been wanting something like that for years ages now.

[QUOTE=Freakie;41518183]Oh my God. You have to tell me how to get that. I've been wanting something like that for years ages now.[/QUOTE] Victoria 2 war analyzer [url]http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?689055-TOOL-Victoria-II-save-game-war-analyzer[/url]

[QUOTE=Tuskin;41520537]Victoria 2 war analyzer [url]http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?689055-TOOL-Victoria-II-save-game-war-analyzer[/url][/QUOTE] It's neat. Doesn't appear to be compatible with PoD, though, sadly, but it's still interesting to see how my vanilla games went.

Just pre-ordered EU4. This is going to be a long 4 weeks.