Paradox Interactive Thread: V2 The cartographers nightmare. - Games

[T]http://i.minus.com/izCLp3aPfFc9m.png[/T] I honestly have no idea what to do with this money anymore. There is too much of it. I have enough money to fund a modern million man army in 1732 if I had the forcelimits. [T]http://i.minus.com/i9wn1qqar7F6U.png[/T] I could just keep building stuff but I don't need to build anything more, most buildings just produce more money. I've built all manufacturer buildings possible, and the only stuff I could build is basic buildings and forts, both of which I have no need for as basic buildings just make more money (and waste monarch points) and I have an army 3x the size of any other in the world. Any ideas?

[QUOTE=lifehole;42064265][T]http://s24.postimg.org/8w5eseemb/eu4_2.png[/T] I honestly have no idea what to do with this money anymore. There is too much of it. I have enough money to fund a modern million man army in 1732 if I had the forcelimits. [T]http://s24.postimg.org/ptzu0hymb/eu4_3.png[/T] I could just keep building stuff but I don't need to build anything more, most buildings just produce more money. I've built all manufacturer buildings possible, and the only stuff I could build is basic buildings and forts, both of which I have no need for as basic buildings just make more money (and waste monarch points) and I have an army 3x the size of any other in the world. Any ideas?[/QUOTE] Release nations that have cores as an act of good will. Then try to take them back after they have time to make allies and mass up their own forces.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;42061430][url]http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=174624606[/url] Seems like people are progressing on the Ryuku challenge.[/QUOTE] Lol, of course DDR Jake [i]would[/i] be the one to do it

[QUOTE=Chronische;42064428]Release nations that have cores as an act of good will. Then try to take them back after they have time to make allies and mass up their own forces.[/QUOTE] As far as I know, you can only release vassals, and when you break vassalization you get -3 stability and a big prestige loss. I'm a big nation, but I'm not world conquerer tier, all I own is what the ottomans owned + arabia and italy.

I wish that you could make it so that you could create vassals from colonies and have them be like Vassals in Victoria where they're part of your country but act with semi autonomy. Would be how colonies were realistically and would make managing everything a shitton easier.

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[QUOTE=Tuskin;42068833][URL=http://minus.com/lbbrjGZSQwqzl9][IMG]http://i.minus.com/jbbrjGZSQwqzl9.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=http://minus.com/lbyQtgnIcMmqM][IMG]http://i.minus.com/jbyQtgnIcMmqM.png[/IMG][/URL][/QUOTE] what am I looking at?

[QUOTE=lifehole;42068933]what am I looking at?[/QUOTE] Portublob? Iroquois not being annihilated by colonists? I dunno, it's pretty standard for EU. Nothing catches the eye.

[QUOTE=Chronische;42068976]Portublob? Iroquois not being annihilated by colonists? I dunno, it's pretty standard for EU. Nothing catches the eye.[/QUOTE] Really? Nothing like Iroquois has ever happened in any of my games. Europe and everywhere else (with the exception of that one "aymara" in south america) looks pretty standard, but that Iroquois? [editline]3rd September 2013[/editline] Also, dat ukraine.

[QUOTE=Chronische;42068976]Portublob? Iroquois not being annihilated by colonists? I dunno, it's pretty standard for EU. Nothing catches the eye.[/QUOTE]I'm amused by the fact France doesn't even directly own France proper but it still has a decent colonial empire going on.

I'm using a mod that adds more natives + gives them the High American Tech group which is just the western tech group but for natives. Its whats given to the Natives in Converted CK2 saves with Sunset Invasion

[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;42067449]. Would be how colonies were realistically and would make managing everything a shitton easier.[/QUOTE] I did that in Asia alot, it's great not having to deal with overextension. Allowing that more in the Americas would really hurt the experience of colonization. Also, [QUOTE][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/oCgMtRW.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

It's the british way for the colonies though. They were organized into charters and different, autonomous districts. [editline]3rd September 2013[/editline] Been having a friesland game. In 1500 at the moment and have basically united the dutch lands and conquered east friesland, oldenburg, and Cologne. Took the dutch lands from Austria since they were at war with France at the same time and big coalitions have really fucked me up. It's funny how much the addition of the 3 Austrian Dutch provinces adds. It basically doubled my forcelimit for land and sea. [editline]3rd September 2013[/editline] I've gained a large chunk of the German land from coalitions attacking me and me doing the great thing and forcefully ending the coalition by taking out the leader through annexation or provinces. Supporting rebels is a blast if they actually attacked enemies after the siege instead of just sitting there and waiting.

[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;42069968]It's the british way for the colonies though. They were organized into charters and different, autonomous districts. [editline]3rd September 2013[/editline] Been having a friesland game. In 1500 at the moment and have basically united the dutch lands and conquered east friesland, oldenburg, and Cologne. Took the dutch lands from Austria since they were at war with France at the same time and big coalitions have really fucked me up. It's funny how much the addition of the 3 Austrian Dutch provinces adds. It basically doubled my forcelimit for land and sea. [editline]3rd September 2013[/editline] I've gained a large chunk of the German land from coalitions attacking me and me doing the great thing and forcefully ending the coalition by taking out the leader through annexation or provinces. Supporting rebels is a blast if they actually attacked enemies after the siege instead of just sitting there and waiting.[/QUOTE] Supporting rebels in the most massive empires in the game is what I've decided to do with all that cash, actually. 100 ducats a month for peasant rebels in spain, another 100 for sunni zealots in vaginaherpesandjar, and the rest for spare treasury buildup. And yeah, playing in the netherlands area is pretty fun, you have a lot of "avenues to domination" so to speak. Colonial, trade, conquest, diplomacy, are all pretty balanced around there. Whereas if you're playing as tibet or someshit you're basically fucked in everything. Or if you're playing an inland german minor (say, bavaria) that isn't near a major COT you're going to be relying on conquest and diplomacy rather than colonial and trade.

I survived the reformation since I was making so much off of trade. It gets to the point where the taxes are the income and the money made from trade is basically all my positive income. And this fucking happened. [img]http://cloud-3.steampowered.com/ugc/615028330087701469/B29C730A24BFD77E3B8FFE5ABFCF9B1580CA8989/[/img] [editline]3rd September 2013[/editline] And I'm establishing a Netherland based supremacy western European with many small substates as vassals. I'm doing this mainly because of the extremely tiny manpower pool. It's 22k and my forcelimit is 50k. Yeah that's not great. So I've started my first steps to the hegemony by releasing such states as Burgundy and slowly vassalising 2-3-4 province states. With these, They're able to raise say, 7-9 thousand men each and this will help me in my eventual fight against France, and with each eventual war against France, my Burgundian vassal grows. [editline]3rd September 2013[/editline] Republics are great simply because of the fact that though you can't inherit realms, not having -1 stability with each ruler dying is fucking amazing.

[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;42070643] And I'm establishing a Netherland based supremacy western European with many small substates as vassals. I'm doing this mainly because of the extremely tiny manpower pool. It's 22k and my forcelimit is 50k. Yeah that's not great. So I've started my first steps to the hegemony by releasing such states as Burgundy and slowly vassalising 2-3-4 province states. With these, They're able to raise say, 7-9 thousand men each and this will help me in my eventual fight against France, and with each eventual war against France, my Burgundian vassal grows. [/QUOTE]Didn't someone point out that ties up your diplomat relationships? If I were you I'd just avoid getting too much vassals and rely on mercs whenever the need rises. Since you can lose manpower [I]incredibly[/I] fast than even in 5.2 EU3, it's a good idea of being conservative with your manpower pool that way. Sure, they can be expensive as fuck but it's a better alternative than having manpower shortages almost all the damn time.

And yeah, that's papal state italy and Serbia strong united yugoslavia. [editline]3rd September 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=kamikaze470;42070807]Didn't someone point out that ties up your diplomat relationships? If I were you I'd just avoid getting too much vassals and rely on mercs whenever the need rises. Since you can lose manpower [I]incredibly[/I] fast than even in 5.2 EU3, it's a good idea of being conservative with your manpower pool that way. Sure, they can be expensive as fuck but it's a better alternative than having manpower shortages almost all the damn time.[/QUOTE] I have it so I'm going to get a +2 to it, which makes it 6 and if I elect diplomatic leaders, it goes up to 10. It's a pretty easy thing and I won't have more than five or six. [editline]3rd September 2013[/editline] It's pretty amazing how flexible Administrative republics are. [editline]3rd September 2013[/editline] [img]http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/615028330089183108/7CB7F412D06B3FA8F4FA322258F75D7018FB4777/[/img] Really happy how this turned out. Didn't realize Munster gained land to the east from Rebellions, I basically restored Burgundy since France had so many provinces that they were like 3 a piece, and I connected and took back the lost western provinces of the Empire. I also released Champagne as a Republic and made a vassal. [editline]3rd September 2013[/editline] Also yeah. Austria split into two, one being a Protestant Bishoppric and the other turning into a noble republic. They'd rather split than to let a women rule.

Playing as Scotland -> GB then colonising has been worth it to eventually see the Scottish GB colony names. [IMG_THUMB]http://i.imgur.com/jc5dz47.jpg?1[/IMG_THUMB]

[QUOTE=Stethor;42076790]Playing as Scotland -> GB then colonising has been worth it to eventually see the Scottish GB colony names. [IMG_THUMB]http://i.imgur.com/jc5dz47.jpg?1[/IMG_THUMB][/QUOTE] Wait, there is dynamic colony names?

[QUOTE=lifehole;42078695]Wait, there is dynamic colony names?[/QUOTE] It's a mod. It's seriously awesome. Just, if you start a date with places already colonized, it'll lag like a bastard for a minute or two as the AI has to switch the names around.

I can't be the only one, but it irks me it doesn't say things like "French North America" anymore.

[QUOTE=VOSK;42078845]I can't be the only one, but it irks me it doesn't say things like "French North America" anymore.[/QUOTE] I'd really like to have that back

[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;42070809]And yeah, that's papal state italy and Serbia strong united yugoslavia. [editline]3rd September 2013[/editline] I have it so I'm going to get a +2 to it, which makes it 6 and if I elect diplomatic leaders, it goes up to 10. It's a pretty easy thing and I won't have more than five or six. [editline]3rd September 2013[/editline] It's pretty amazing how flexible Administrative republics are. [editline]3rd September 2013[/editline] Really happy how this turned out. Didn't realize Munster gained land to the east from Rebellions, I basically restored Burgundy since France had so many provinces that they were like 3 a piece, and I connected and took back the lost western provinces of the Empire. I also released Champagne as a Republic and made a vassal. [editline]3rd September 2013[/editline] Also yeah. Austria split into two, one being a Protestant Bishoppric and the other turning into a noble republic. They'd rather split than to let a women rule.[/QUOTE] who'd you form with?

[QUOTE=Bumgall;42079775]who'd you form with?[/QUOTE] Friesland. [editline]4th September 2013[/editline] Game as of 1583, The national anthem celebrating the Prince of Orange was instituted 340 years early, Salzberg is mega archduchy, one province Bavaria is the current Emperor, I've colonized four provinces in the New England region and have the Acadian peninsula. I've completed my plan of the Western Block and Calvinism is growing strong in western Europe. Super surprised at the Papal states dominating as the AI and things such as Serbia strong yugoland. France imploded after just perpetual wars against Spain and italian states and myself and revolts. [b] The Orange bloc [/b] [t]http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/618406095643878237/59FB841C8B9603B052FA0B6E9362FB553A3F243C/[/t] [b] Current Europe [/b] [t]http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/618406095643876318/5EBD1A88CE7308D94CD8AED7DC0033CE6179D752/[/t] Just unlocked the idea tree for expansion so I'm going to be getting a second colonist very soon. I'm basically planning on Colonizing the North East USA and eastern canada to Acadia, then setting my sights on South Africa. I'd rather have Strong, Regional colonies than just an entire fucking giant area to have to defend.

[QUOTE=lifehole;42078695]Wait, there is dynamic colony names?[/QUOTE] Why not just rename them yourself? All you have to do is click the province and type in a name.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;42081328]Why not just rename them yourself? All you have to do is click the province and type in a name.[/QUOTE] because i'm an uncreative sack of shit also, because I don't tend to play colonial nations [editline]4th September 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Paul McCartney;42080556]Friesland. [editline]4th September 2013[/editline] Game as of 1583, The national anthem celebrating the Prince of Orange was instituted 340 years early, Salzberg is mega archduchy, one province Bavaria is the current Emperor, I've colonized four provinces in the New England region and have the Acadian peninsula. I've completed my plan of the Western Block and Calvinism is growing strong in western Europe. Super surprised at the Papal states dominating as the AI and things such as Serbia strong yugoland. France imploded after just perpetual wars against Spain and italian states and myself and revolts. [b] The Orange bloc [/b] [t]http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/618406095643878237/59FB841C8B9603B052FA0B6E9362FB553A3F243C/[/t] [b] Current Europe [/b] [t]http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/618406095643876318/5EBD1A88CE7308D94CD8AED7DC0033CE6179D752/[/t] Just unlocked the idea tree for expansion so I'm going to be getting a second colonist very soon. I'm basically planning on Colonizing the North East USA and eastern canada to Acadia, then setting my sights on South Africa. I'd rather have Strong, Regional colonies than just an entire fucking giant area to have to defend.[/QUOTE] Once you annex your spheres, you will have a very interesting little slice of land that I rarely ever see the AI unite in any paradox games simply because for all of history that burgundy-belgium-netherlands-lotharingia-alscae-lorraine-friesland-notherngermany area has been an extremely conflicted area because it has influences coming from all major european powers throughout history.

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;42079325]I'd really like to have that back[/QUOTE]I don't even understand why they removed it at all Non-dynamic map names are lame

I replaced the main menu theme with Falalalan. Best decision ever.

[QUOTE=cccino;42084856]I replaced the main menu theme with Falalalan. Best decision ever.[/QUOTE] I don't blame you, it's one of the most memorable songs from Eu2. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdSU70HgnHk[/media]

[QUOTE=lifehole;42081877]because i'm an uncreative sack of shit also, because I don't tend to play colonial nations [editline]4th September 2013[/editline] Once you annex your spheres, you will have a very interesting little slice of land that I rarely ever see the AI unite in any paradox games simply because for all of history that burgundy-belgium-netherlands-lotharingia-alscae-lorraine-friesland-notherngermany area has been an extremely conflicted area because it has influences coming from all major european powers throughout history.[/QUOTE] No plan to unite them through annexation. I'm keeping my Spheres as Vassals for the sole purpose of having a strong European Army. I won't have to keep everything in Europe once colonialism steps up and because of manpower restrictions, it enables me to survive in prolonged wars. I have a 34k manpower limit with a 40k European army and a 5k Colonial army for my small chunk of NE usa. With the combined forces from my vassals and I, the orange bloc has probably around 80-100k army in the mid to late 1500s. [editline]5th September 2013[/editline] Also have no plan to unite them since I just don't care for the French lands. I'd give Alasce-loraine to Burgundy or Champs but because of the fact that it's in the empire, they won't touch it.