Paradox Interactive Thread: V2 The cartographers nightmare. - Games

[QUOTE=Glent;42347166]I know! Who even pays for anything?[/QUOTE]When it's just reused events from EU2, yes, I think it's silly to be charging money for it. I wouldn't have said anything if this was in the vanilla game, but it's not, it's in a dlc.

[QUOTE=kamikaze470;42347803]When it's just reused events from EU2, yes, I think it's a ripoff to charge money for it. I wouldn't have said anything if this was in the vanilla game, but it's not, it's in a dlc.[/QUOTE] tbh the whole "DLC marketing strategy" really gets on my nerves, especially when it is just reused events. I mean, all the DLC for CK2 costs over a hundred dollars, and the game itself costs a fraction of that. I mean the content produced is great, but their marketing strategy is annoying, to say the least.

Suprisingly easy, I guess Infantry cant stand up to Mechanized. Mod needs some work on events though, you'd figure that China would have something to say about me rolling through North Korea. Yet Another Modern Day Mod [IMG]http://puu.sh/4DKJA.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/579001527455824009/DABD299A0622A385B30576A7F4AB9FCFBE22A14E/[/IMG] Why does every German state jump on the rape Brandenburg train? All I did was take my rightful core and Danzig. The AI creating megastacks is also just a pain.

Did anyone manage to win the HYW as England in teh new patch? On ironman of course.

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Now annex those Japanese bastards for invading us back in the 1500s.

[QUOTE=Smooth Jazz;42360285]Now annex those Japanese bastards for invading us back in the 1500s.[/QUOTE] But where will I get my imported Anime pillows.

[QUOTE=Lone Wolf807;42360900]But where will I get my imported Anime pillows.[/QUOTE] Korea... [editline]30th September 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=BurnEmDown;42359963]Did anyone manage to win the HYW as England in teh new patch? On ironman of course.[/QUOTE] I haven't tried it, but winning it is easy enough. It's simply maneuvering your armies with your fleet and always keeping the French moving.

[QUOTE=Lone Wolf807;42351966]Suprisingly easy, I guess Infantry cant stand up to Mechanized. Mod needs some work on events though, you'd figure that China would have something to say about me rolling through North Korea. Yet Another Modern Day Mod [IMG]http://puu.sh/4DKJA.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] Korea is mostly hills and mountainous terrain. I thought that mountain terrain gives mechanized a bigger disadvantage in fighting.

I really want to get into HoI 2 but it's so hard to understand anything. The tutorial is already to much for me. Is there a way to get into this game, it just seems so awesome. Also I got the Doomsday and Armageddon expansion, which one should I play?

[QUOTE=junker154;42372643]I really want to get into HoI 2 but it's so hard to understand anything. The tutorial is already to much for me. Is there a way to get into this game, it just seems so awesome. Also I got the Doomsday and Armageddon expansion, which one should I play?[/QUOTE] HOI 2 really takes less effort than hoi3, it's not that hard to play once you know how to play/get a playstyle. I dunno about doomsday or armageddon, because I got darkest hour and only watched let's play of hoi2. Darkest hour is basically a slightly revised and renewed version of hoi2.

Yeah, most people tend to play Darkest Hour. Unfortunately I don't own it. I bought it on impulse at a store, I always wanted to try it.

So I picked up Hearts of Darkness and the assorted Vicky 2 DLC I didn't have that was cheap. Wooo.

[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;42363120]Korea is mostly hills and mountainous terrain. I thought that mountain terrain gives mechanized a bigger disadvantage in fighting.[/QUOTE]There's a 5% difference between mech and INF fighting in mountain terrain, I think they're more or less the same for hills however.

[QUOTE=junker154;42372643]I really want to get into HoI 2 but it's so hard to understand anything. The tutorial is already to much for me. Is there a way to get into this game, it just seems so awesome. Also I got the Doomsday and Armageddon expansion, which one should I play?[/QUOTE] The latest one. Meh, just keep messing around and you'll get the hang of it. Much like with every other Paradox game. Try reading a guide about Mj, Lt and Generals + HQ and how it affects combat efficiency because that's one big fuckup for begginers. Don't bother with naval warfare at the start, just concentrate on land, then go air and when you feel comfortable, go with naval.

You know, I'd sacrifice my first born to the sun god Ra to be able to zoom in enough to see actual fighting in a far off future Paradox game. Not even to interfere, just spectate.

[QUOTE=junker154;42372643]I really want to get into HoI 2 but it's so hard to understand anything. The tutorial is already to much for me. Is there a way to get into this game, it just seems so awesome. Also I got the Doomsday and Armageddon expansion, which one should I play?[/QUOTE] arma campaigns aren't really that great. they are sorta like an arena playground geared more towards multiplayer battles.

EU4 looks pretty ominous and I had only bad experiences with EU3. Should I still give it a whirl? I tried the demo but I kept getting my ass kicked and it shied me away from the game because it seemed infinitely smaller nations were pulling doomstacks out their ass.

[QUOTE=BananaFoam;42375430]EU4 looks pretty ominous and I had only bad experiences with EU3. Should I still give it a whirl? I tried the demo but I kept getting my ass kicked and it shied me away from the game because it seemed infinitely smaller nations were pulling doomstacks out their ass.[/QUOTE] EU4 turned out as a disappointment imo, stick to EU3 with mods for the meantime and buy EU4 when it goes on sale.

[QUOTE=kamikaze470;42375464]EU4 turned out as a disappointment imo, stick to EU3 with mods for the meantime and buy EU4 when it goes on sale.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't say disappointment, just a bit simpler than a lot of paradox games. I instantly understood eu4 with barely any effort. And I don't think it's just streamlining or just easy accessibility or familiarity, it seems like a game that is relatively simple to play and the difficulty is mostly artificial in forms of disabling the control of the player in terms of their countries situation and constricting it to three seperate pointscores for different actions to "balance" the game. Compare that to HoI3 or the pop/trade management of vicky 2. I think that paradox is making the games more accessible, comparably, but they are also removing some complexity and micromanagement. Which is good, and bad. It removes the players ability to really control what they want and what they can do at a detailed level, but it makes the game more accessible, less intense to play, and has to make up difficulty with artificial "blocking" sometimes because of a lack of detailed sandbox gameplay. They say they want less map painting in eu4 than eu3/eu4 1.1, but is it really worth doing that when all you do is put up a few artificial blocks on what the player can do to accomplish less map painting? Paradox games have always been a sandbox of the world for me/the player, and I don't like the direction they're going with "easier to play at the cost of less things to control."

Eu4 really doesn't have of the same randomness of eu3. There are alot more scripted events steering the player down a certain path and AI itself actually seems to have some kind of ambition of retelling history, I appreciate the pretty maps but it really hurts the flavor of the game. Even if Eu4 has improved the the AI, finances and idea system I still don't like the new scripted feel. I've been playing as Castille in Eu4 and the events are really just steering me along. I get an Iberian wedding event with Aragon without much effort , I get free colonists no other country gets and my enemies are basically predetermined by the rival system. I don't really feel like I'm earning my countries success or really shaping its destiny. [editline]2nd October 2013[/editline] its late

Damn, I was also looking forward to EU4 but I always liked the randomness of EU3, it made the game so awesome. Nevertheless the new streamlined mechanics and concepts sound really good.

There are some promising looking mods for Europa 4 though, I'm excited to see how some of them turn out.

Honestly it's a way better game than EU3 was at release. (And I don't just mean more polished/bugfree/whatever, but actually a better game). I'm sure the inevitable expansions will flesh out the more barebones game mechanics, just like happened with EU3. Shit, they don't do expansions any more... DLC then? Ugh.

Biggest issue with EUIV is the colonial powers. 99% of the time it's always Portugal/Castille. I'm not saying it's bad because it's historically accurate, but come on at least give us a "lucky nation" modifier.

[QUOTE=Atlascore;42377006]EU IV isn't disappointing, it's just flawed, like every Paradox game is at release, give it time and it'll be amazing it has plenty of potential.[/QUOTE] It had a flawness release. The perceived flaws in the game are just what the game is supposed to be. [QUOTE=Zillamaster55;42378082]Biggest issue with EUIV is the colonial powers. 99% of the time it's always Portugal/Castille. I'm not saying it's bad because it's historically accurate, but come on at least give us a "lucky nation" modifier.[/QUOTE] They get tons of events and free colonists. The AI is also driven to colonize SA.

Gosh, I suck so much at EU3. I sometimes have a real hard time planning ahead at a longterm. I really loose any sense of progression and just play without much thought. Usually I follow the missions which gain me prestige but they often lead to nowhere.

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;42378082]Biggest issue with EUIV is the colonial powers. 99% of the time it's always Portugal/Castille. I'm not saying it's bad because it's historically accurate, but come on at least give us a "lucky nation" modifier.[/QUOTE] Not really, I tend to see Morocco a lot in South America in about a 1/3 of my games.

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;42378082]Biggest issue with EUIV is the colonial powers. 99% of the time it's always Portugal/Castille. I'm not saying it's bad because it's historically accurate, but come on at least give us a "lucky nation" modifier.[/QUOTE] The problem is that AI countries have pre-determined idea groups. Portugal, Castille/Spain, and then England and France are pretty much the only one who will pick the exploration ideas, and Russia will be the only country to colonise eastwards to Siberia.