[QUOTE=junker154;42434401]I'm currently playing through the Victoria 2 tutorials, it's quite a complex and in-depth game. I don't know how to use my gained knowledge to good use during a game. Everything is really complicated.[/QUOTE]
The best way to learn Vicky 2 is to just play.
The USA is kinda too big to fail hard with, barring getting fucked over by rebels from day 1. And even then you can just restart.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;42435340][url]http://gamemoir.com/2013/09/23/europa-universalis-iv-is-the-best-genocide-simulator-of-the-year/[/url]
Painful.[/QUOTE]
A+++ article, would read again.
I also highly recommend you try out this mod - it ensures that the world of EUIV is fair (except for European scum):
[URL]http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=182193625[/URL]
[QUOTE=DVH;42435497]The best way to learn Vicky 2 is to just play.
The USA is kinda too big to fail hard with, barring getting fucked over by rebels from day 1. And even then you can just restart.[/QUOTE]
Guess I'll try that. I wanted to start as Belgium or Argentina, they seem to be small enough and still stignificant. Also USA is a major power which adds a lot of depth with the whole sphere of influence and the like, I'm somewhat afraid.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;42435508]A+++ article, would read again.
I also highly recommend you try out this mod - it ensures that the world of EUIV is fair (except for European scum):
[URL]http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=182193625[/URL][/QUOTE]
This guys mods are amazing
[url]http://steamcommunity.com/id/mayaka/myworkshopfiles/?appid=236850[/url]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/wJvHkEP.png[/img]
[QUOTE=chuck14;42436339][img]http://i.imgur.com/wJvHkEP.png[/img][/QUOTE]
Mostly AI. The mod also makes all national except Israel and USA the Nomad Tech group.
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I've been playing MP with a bunch of people from the Paradox forum but sadly we're ending this game now (1.2 kinda messed things up). Here's the result
[t]http://u.cubeupload.com/Kljunas/eu4mapMCH163601031.png[/t]
(year is 1636)
I'm Manchu (westernised, Tibet is my vassal). England, France, Scandinavia, Oman, Vijayanagar/Hindustan, Pegu and I have been playing every week iirc, but there was a bunch of less regular players too so we always were between 10 and 20 players in the game. Pretty much every major nation here has been player-controlled at some point.
[QUOTE=junker154;42435875]Guess I'll try that. I wanted to start as Belgium or Argentina, they seem to be small enough and still stignificant. Also USA is a major power which adds a lot of depth with the whole sphere of influence and the like, I'm somewhat afraid.[/QUOTE]
playing in south america means you are left alone for the most part. plus since they are american they get tons of immigrants(just not as much as uncle sam).
Well, I started as Belgium and for some reason I'm doing really well. I kind of got the hang of it and how to influence everything. I had a steady income and have a huge amount of money. I even became a major power, added a few nations to my sphere. Netherlands declared war on me and I totally defeated them and took all their lands. Now I'm in a phase where nothing much happens, just waiting until something happens. I need to find out how colonization works, also I bought the Divded House expansion.
Fun article.
Interesting how it twists game concepts and words so as to be able to put them into his view/position.
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Furthermore, the reason for the Americas being largely empty is because of the fact that for most of the period there simply didn’t exist states in those areas in the way that states and nations are represented in the EU series. It would not make sense for an Inuit state or nation to exist in northern Canada or Greenland because there simply was no such thing. It wouldn’t make sense for a nomadic north American people to be represented with a state because there was no such thing. Loose confederations or some such thing, yes. Not something that ran along the same lines as the Spanish empire or the Japanese shogunate or any other nation that makes more sense to include in a game that’s about actual nations with bureaucracies and kings and what have you. The American states that were similar to other nations in the world (the Aztecs and other cultures of Central America and the Incans of the Andes) are included because they can be represented in a somewhat realistic way, even though they are, perhaps, unfairly disadvantaged (though their technology really wasn’t up to par with Europeans or other old world nations at all). I would go so far as to say there simply shouldn’t be any north American states at all.[/QUOTE]
11/10.
[QUOTE=junker154;42443528]Well, I started as Belgium and for some reason I'm doing really well. I kind of got the hang of it and how to influence everything. I had a steady income and have a huge amount of money. I even became a major power, added a few nations to my sphere. Netherlands declared war on me and I totally defeated them and took all their lands. Now I'm in a phase where nothing much happens, just waiting until something happens. I need to find out how colonization works, also I bought the Divded House expansion.[/QUOTE]
Look for the region you want to colonise and stick a colonial NF there. You need to be either bordering it or it has to be a coastal province, in which case you need to be in range determined by the level of your closet port.
Also some tech is needed to colonise. Off the top of my head you need Machine guns, nationalisn & imperalism, and one of the medicine techs. These help to lower liferating so the non-immediate areas like the Spice Islands or Africa can be colonised later.
[QUOTE=chuck14;42436339][img]http://i.imgur.com/wJvHkEP.png[/img][/QUOTE]
I'm getting ready for my playthrough of this mod. Time to bring Democracy to the world.
[QUOTE=RearAdmiral;42444399]I'm getting ready for my playthrough of this mod. Time to bring Democracy to the world.[/QUOTE]
I've been spreading freedom and banking.
[QUOTE=kamikaze470;42443762]Look for the region you want to colonise and stick a colonial NF there. You need to be either bordering it or it has to be a coastal province, in which case you need to be in range determined by the level of your closet port.
Also some tech is needed to colonise. Off the top of my head you need Machine guns, nationalisn & imperalism, and one of the medicine techs. These help to lower liferating so the non-immediate areas like the Spice Islands or Africa can be colonised later.[/QUOTE]
Thanks, that's quite useful information. For some reason after installing A House Divided, my Belgium save turned into shit. I had an unexplainable deficit and everything turned into shit, I guess that the new changes might break the balance of older saves. Anyway I'm going to start a new game with a more suitable nation. Also I want to figure out to be powerful without coal or iron. Coal seems to be very important.
[QUOTE=junker154;42434401]I'm currently playing through the Victoria 2 tutorials, it's quite a complex and in-depth game. I don't know how to use my gained knowledge to good use during a game. Everything is really complicated.[/QUOTE]
I didn't even know Vicky 2 had tutorials. Guess that explains why it's taken me literally a year and a half to two years or so to get gud at the game.
Though, now that I'm good, I have to say, I'm REAL good.
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Glorious American People's Republic. Had a pretty little communist revolution just after I finished claiming a massive barren wasteland in Africa. Now I have Mongolia, Manchuria, and Korea as glorious American puppet states and have spread the worker's revolution to Mexico, Brazil, and Greece. Rebellions are sort of a pain in the arse but my armies take care of those damn Jacobin bourgeois scum pretty easily.
Also some neat/weird things. Germany is currently a democracy and from what I can tell the literally most democratic nation in the world. Austria is basically fucked up beyond belief, all of it's random ethnicities it controlled IRL are pretty much independent. Cuba is an absolute monarchy. Ottoman Empire is a prussian constitutionalism at the time of that screenshot but is almost entirely sieged by reactionary rebels, I'm guessing they'll be an absolute monarchy again soon.
Other than that I am the owner of the Panama canal and am currently sphere-ing egypt for the Suez canal
I honestly couldn't stick with the Land of the Free mod. I thought it was a fun idea but it's so easy to world dominate it's not really something I feel like sticking with.
What's peoples' opinions on the From Darkness mod? I'm about to test it out as The Hansa.
Holy shit I actually managed to expand as Piedmont-Sardinia. I conquered Algeria and Tunisia and now I'm trying to unify all the italian nations. It's really hard to approach it. Two Sicilies is really powerful and can destroy me with their navy, although I might pull of a small invasion. All the other nations are under the direct influence of Austria and France which makes it hard to conquer them.
My economy is pretty stable and I have tons of income, unfortunately I don't have any factories. For now I try to accumulate prestige in order to influence the minor italian states.
Nevertheless I'm really amazed that I made it this far, Victoria 2 seemed so complex and impossible at first.
[QUOTE=junker154;42448975]Holy shit I actually managed to expand as Piedmont-Sardinia. I conquered Algeria and Tunisia and now I'm trying to unify all the italian nations. It's really hard to approach it. Two Sicilies is really powerful and can destroy me with their navy, although I might pull of a small invasion. All the other nations are under the direct influence of Austria and France which makes it hard to conquer them.
My economy is pretty stable and I have tons of income, unfortunately I don't have any factories. For now I try to accumulate prestige in order to influence the minor italian states.
Nevertheless I'm really amazed that I made it this far, Victoria 2 seemed so complex and impossible at first.[/QUOTE]
Once you manage to understand and able to pilot the economic aspect of the game, everything else comes in easy.
IMHO, Argentina is not a country for someone to begin playing with. Low population means income from taxes is next to none, and developing technolgies takes some time. Plus, war with Bolivia/Paraguay/Chile is likely to happen.
Unfortunately, there is no way to take an alternate historical path.
You start off with the federales in power (represented as pres.dict.) and it's not until the 70-80's that you can get the unitarios (liberals-democratic) in power. By then, Brasil will already have, if nothing weird such a slave uprising/commie uprising happens, around 4m-5m population, which totally leaves you as a minor reg.power.
[QUOTE=junker154;42448975]Holy shit I actually managed to expand as Piedmont-Sardinia. I conquered Algeria and Tunisia and now I'm trying to unify all the italian nations.
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If you become a GP, make sure you keep an eye out for Garibaldi's redshirts. If they win they'll unite Italy without you.
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This patch has made war an interesting experience.
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Time to stomp France for all of the trouble its given me.
Argentina has a ton of potential as a democracy. With immigrants and a bit of luck you can become #1 GP with very minimal expansion based on my pre-HOD experience.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;42450778]If you become a GP, make sure you keep an eye out for Garibaldi's redshirts. If they win they'll unite Italy without you.
Argentina has a ton of potential as a democracy. With immigrants and a bit of luck you can become #1 GP with very minimal expansion based on my pre-HOD experience.[/QUOTE]
HoD fucks with the immigration system quite a bit, so I wouldn't count on it.
Also, junker154 I recommend you get HoD if you can afford it. It really improves the colonization and navy system so that it you can't colonize all of africa as a three state minor.
e.g: New English (pdm mod) africa!
[IMG]http://puu.sh/25QMw[/IMG]
Fuck, I wasn't sure about Hearts of Darkness. People claimed that it was a pretty light expansion and not that great. Unfortunately the steam sale is over :v: it was pretty cheap but I only bought AHD. I find the price tag of 20 € pretty steep.
in the mp game me and my friend have, bavaria declared war on ulm. bavaria brought france with them in the war and ulm brought austria with them. france couldnt get in to defeat ulm or austria, but what happened was hilarious:
so austria destroys bavarias army and then promptly makes a peace with bavaria (it was either a white peace or a demand defeat). but austria wasnt leader of war so the war continued. so ulm then occupies ALL of bavaria. and what is their peacedeal? they make france release EVERYTHING. it must have cost ulm like 400% warscore but for some reason they accepted it. so now ulm has completely wiped out france.
be afraid of ulm
[QUOTE=junker154;42452854]Fuck, I wasn't sure about Hearts of Darkness. People claimed that it was a pretty light expansion and not that great. Unfortunately the steam sale is over :v: it was pretty cheap but I only bought AHD. I find the price tag of 20 € pretty steep.[/QUOTE]There's always the looming winter sale to look forward to where it's bound to be go cheap.
[QUOTE=junker154;42452854]Fuck, I wasn't sure about Hearts of Darkness. People claimed that it was a pretty light expansion and not that great. Unfortunately the steam sale is over :v: it was pretty cheap but I only bought AHD. I find the price tag of 20 € pretty steep.[/QUOTE]
It's not as essential as AHD, but if you don't mind the money it's pretty good for how much it brings.
Story time!
My friend and I started our first HoD game tonight (with the new nations mod) since I bought it during the sale
We decided on trying out uncivilized countries (since they were much improved upon in HoD). I decided on Egypt (a satellite of the Ottomans, the plan from the beginning was to get me released asap), while my friend chose Persia (a little worse off than Egypt, but can easily expand east towards India or SW into Hail, etc). Of course, the Ottomans would be our biggest concern (at least at the beginning) but since at this point they are becoming "the sick man of Europe" and are heading downhill pretty rapidly we were confident enough that we could get me released in a timely manner.
Being uncivilized, there's a lot of waiting to do. Waiting to accumulate money, waiting for scientific points, waiting to westernize. You know how it is. So, we wait.
[b]But then[/b] a flashpoint! Something new to me, but easy enough to understand: Bulgaria (far north Ottoman, NE of Greece) wants to be freed from the clutches of the evil Ottoman Empire, and Austria backs their claims with all of it's military power. Soon after (days) Russia joins Bulgaria's side and eventually France also joins them, while Prussia sides with the Ottomans. That puts it at Austria, Russia, and France, vs. The Ottoman Empire (including me at this point) and Prussia (This seems like a rather large war for world wars not being possible yet). Things aren't looking good for my oppressor, and my friend and I are excited about that. If this isn't resolved, it will be my perfect opportunity to declare war on the Ottomans for my independence while they're weakened by this huge war with 3 other world powers.
And that is exactly what would happen. January 30th, 1838, the Austrian War for Bulgarian Independence (or something like that) begins. I first wait a bit for the Ottomans to become occupied with their war (as I have about 1/10 the troop capacity of the Ottomans and my friend as Persia can only field a few brigades) so I can slip in under the radar and quickly leave being an independent Egypt. Once the Bulgaria war is under way (and they're getting their butts handed to them) I declare the War of Egyptian Independence. Immediately my friend as Persia sends me an alliance offer and I call him into the war so he can help out. I begin moving my troops into Ottoman territory when (like a week after I declare war) the UK randomly declares war on me and my friend with the "Free Ottoman People" reason, trying to return all of my land that the Ottomans have a core in to them. This amounted to basically where modern day Israel is (pretty much everything NE of Suez) which I wasn't about to give up because that's some really good land. So much for a quick mop up of land and then getting out, now we've got to deal with England breathing down our necks. This is the part where I mobilize.
Well here they come, an English navy shows up and 21,000 English troops land on my coast to the far west of Cairo (fortunately for me, that's all desert so they take heavy attrition). I recall most of my troops (maybe 30k of them, leaving 15k behind to deal with any smaller armies) from the eastern front to fight off the British army, as they are going to be much more technologically advanced than the Ottomans so I'll definitely need numbers on my side. We also decide that in order for me to win I'm going to have use some guerilla tactics by splitting my army, placing half on a mountain/over a river from where the English army is and having the other half on an adjacent province. I then use the first army as bait (because the AI will normally attack a weaker army) and once the battle starts I ambush them with my reinforcements. After doing that and then chasing down the routed army with my army enough times they eventually die and I'm able to break a small army off from my main one, keep that behind to re-capture the provinces that the British took, and send the bulk of my army back to the eastern front (where the Ottomans and its allies had pressed into the northern parts of where Syria and Lebanon are).
I managed to take out the Ottoman's major army in the area using the same tactics mentioned before, but in the mean time, England sends a navy into the Red Sea and lands 24,000 troops onto Persia (my friend's) coast. At this point he's taken some pretty heavy losses while capturing territory along his border with the Ottomans while I was preoccupied with their main army on my land. He only has 3k troops, so after I'm done with the Ottomans I send an expeditionary force of 30,000 men (leaving 20k behind) to go save him. Again utilizing the guerrilla ambush tactics I am able to kill the bulk of the English army when they send an offer for white peace which we gladly accept. Now we can focus on mopping up what's left of the Ottoman forces and capture enough land to for me to get independence and maybe even add a wargoal.
On the way back to Egyptian land though (the Ottomans are meanwhile desperately suing for peace, saying I can be independent, every 10 days), another Ottoman army arrives in the NW corner of Persia and begins marching down the border, capturing all the land along the way. By now, my troops are very week and down to about 15k men plus my friend's now 6k men, while the Ottoman army is 15k strong. This is worrying because I know that the Ottomans have better war technology than we do and I'm not 100% sure we have enough numbers to kill the entire army. Regardless, we utilize our tried and true ambush in the mountains tactics and they work flawlessly. After they route 3 times I'm slowly running out of troops (but their army has no morale so I'm still winning every battle) and my friend is down to 200 men so he manages to get a white peace with the Ottomans and goes back to trying to build up his economy and westernizing. I managed to eventually kill the Ottoman army as they retreat back into their territory and I send in my 20k men I left behind in egypt.
I take a few of their provinces and then add a wargoal to acquire the other half of Adana (a single province on the coast where our borders meet) which is only worth 4 warscore. They gladly accept my offer and I come out a free country and even with some more land to boot. After this blow to The Ottoman Empire, they went from rank 8 to rank 25 with 0 prestige, and I'm now rank 73, second to only china (and their HUGE army) in the uncivilized world, with a total of 55 prestige (rank 9 in the world).
I'd say that went about as well as it possibly could have considering at one point we were in two separate wars against two world powers as uncivilized nations.
[QUOTE=kamikaze470;42462764]There's always the looming winter sale to look forward to where it's bound to be go cheap.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I think I might get it by then. Considering that the game has enough content and complexity to keep me occupied for a long time.
Unfortunately my Sardinia-Piedmont playthrough got fucked royally, I think I had to much infamy because all the world powers just ganged up on me and just destroyed me. Then I tried to do the same with Two Sicilies but Spain fucked my shit pretty bad because I took Algeria.
I also strated a new Belgium campaign to get the hang of the economic system, I nearly took all of the Netherlands right at the start due to a border dispute.
Well I think I love this game a lot.
[QUOTE=Kentz;42453793]in the mp game me and my friend have, bavaria declared war on ulm. bavaria brought france with them in the war and ulm brought austria with them. france couldnt get in to defeat ulm or austria, but what happened was hilarious:
so austria destroys bavarias army and then promptly makes a peace with bavaria (it was either a white peace or a demand defeat). but austria wasnt leader of war so the war continued. so ulm then occupies ALL of bavaria. and what is their peacedeal? they make france release EVERYTHING. it must have cost ulm like 400% warscore but for some reason they accepted it. so now ulm has completely wiped out france.
be afraid of ulm[/QUOTE]
What is ULM
[QUOTE=LVL FACTORY;42465347]What is ULM[/QUOTE]It's a tiny German nation in the HRE.
And also [I]the[/I] administrative city-state republic hell bent on world domination.
Though despite it's retarded goals it's still better than Brittany. Fuck Brittany.
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