[QUOTE=Shibbey;45650639]4 NS-23 cannons are fucking worthless compared to the 2 VYa cannons.[/QUOTE]
See children, an example that even Shibbey can be entirely wrong.
Are you fucking kidding me, I install War Thunder using Steam, and all it does is installs the fucking launcher that uses the horrible download system? I mean I saved time by downloading the 9gb base files, but it doesn't help when there's a 6gb patch (probably not the only one) that downloads as such retarded speeds compared to the steam servers.
yes
[editline]10th August 2014[/editline]
it is bad
[QUOTE=I-the-gamer;45585014]Except you trade in a sizable chunk of that climb rate (as well as maneuverability) when you take the extra guns.[/QUOTE]
That climb rate is just as good with the guns. It's great
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;45650654]See children, an example that even Shibbey can be entirely wrong.[/QUOTE]
Ns-23s can't penetrate hard targets like tanks or pillboxes.
So, what's everyone's haul from the double RP event? I got:
-The entire Yer line
-A couple of La-5s
-IL-10/IL-10 1946
-the last I-185
-the last Mig-3
-Yak-9U/9P/most of the 9UT
-about half of the first MiG-9
[QUOTE=Shibbey;45651437]Ns-23s can't penetrate hard targets like tanks or pillboxes.[/QUOTE]
The IL-10 1946 is absolutely irredeemably bad outside of Arcade and even then the normal one is better.
The NS-23s are awful as an attacker, with piss accuracy unupgraded and zero penetration capabilities. Combine that with an already chunky chassis that struggles to climb or dogfight without lots of energy (lol good luck), and that can maybe get 1-3 hard targets per sortie depending on payload. [U]It's fucking [B]terrible[/B].[/U] At least the IL-2I and IL-2M are at a BR where they might have low level and low energy things to prey on. The IL-10 (and especially the 1946) are at a BR where everything will be in low orbit and two to three times faster than you before you reach the battlefield.
I played maybe two or three missions with it in RB before deciding it was F-82E / Mossie XVIII tier garbage that's best left for fucking around in Arcade. I'd be infinitely happier with it having 2 x Benzin UB 12.7mms rather than the four Noodlyshit 23's.
[QUOTE=JoeSibilant;45651644]So, what's everyone's haul from the double RP event? I got:
-The entire Yer line
-A couple of La-5s
-IL-10/IL-10 1946
-the last I-185
-the last Mig-3
-Yak-9U/9P/most of the 9UT
-about half of the first MiG-9[/QUOTE]
Fielded the Spitfire F 9
Unlocked Yak-3, Typhoon 1B late, and a6m3 mod 22
All this hate for the NS-23 makes me even more sad that there isn't a single fighter in WT with a centerline VYa-23 cannon.
Lagg-3s and Yak-9s were equipped with them historically.
The fuck is going on with tank controls? Every time I enter or exit sniper view, no matter what speed I'm going before, it decides to autoreverse until I hit W to stop it. No idea why, I've never modified the controls.
[QUOTE=TheLolrus;45652250]The fuck is going on with tank controls? Every time I enter or exit sniper view, no matter what speed I'm going before, it decides to autoreverse until I hit W to stop it. No idea, why, I've never modified the controls.[/QUOTE]
Didn't you set your language to French?
Why am I still seeing T-50s in my 38t ausf A? I thought the new BR would've prevented that.
1.3 BR 38t.
2.7 BR T-50.
Or is the spread higher than 1 for tanks?
Wasn't there also a skill spread of up to 1.3?
[QUOTE=Lupin;45652677]Why am I still seeing T-50s in my 38t ausf A? I thought the new BR would've prevented that.
1.3 BR 38t.
2.7 BR T-50.
Or is the spread higher than 1 for tanks?[/QUOTE]
Are you playing AB? Your BR gets lowered if your next two highest tanks are lower than your highest, (Max of 2 BR notches I believe).
No idea if it works the same way in RB though.
[QUOTE=benzinxrm;45652709]Wasn't there also a skill spread of up to 1.3?[/QUOTE]
That might explain it.
[QUOTE=PsiSoldier;45652754]Are you playing AB? Your BR gets lowered if your next two highest tanks are lower than your highest, (Max of 2 BR notches I believe).
No idea if it works the same way in RB though.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I'm in AB. Only other tank I have in my lineup is the 1.3 PZII.
[QUOTE=Lupin;45652756]That might explain it.
Yeah I'm in AB. Only other tank I have in my lineup is the 1.3 PZII.[/QUOTE]
They've probably got things lower than 2.7 in their line-up, so their overall BR is probably more like 2.3 or 2.0. I actually used to do something similar back when I played AB and was turbo-grinding to the Airacobra :v:
If you mouse-over their tank in the scoreboard, you can see their 3 highest-rated tanks, and their 'overall battle-rating' or something.
[QUOTE=PsiSoldier;45652826]They've probably got things lower than 2.7 in their line-up, so their overall BR is probably more like 2.3 or 2.0. I actually used to do something similar back when I played AB and was turbo-grinding to the Airacobra :v:
If you mouse-over their tank in the scoreboard, you can see their 3 highest-rated tanks, and their 'overall battle-rating' or something.[/QUOTE]
Ah, that's probably it. A combination of being drug up, and them being drug down.
[QUOTE=PsiSoldier;45652826]They've probably got things lower than 2.7 in their line-up, so their overall BR is probably more like 2.3 or 2.0. I actually used to do something similar back when I played AB and was turbo-grinding to the Airacobra :v:
If you mouse-over their tank in the scoreboard, you can see their 3 highest-rated tanks, and their 'overall battle-rating' or something.[/QUOTE]
that's not how it works
you cant drag your BR down by taking lower BR vehicles, it only takes into account the higher BR vehicle in your lineup
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nope, Im a retard that's totally how it works
[QUOTE=TheLolrus;45646632]Same reason AB planes has so many more players?[/QUOTE]
That's the thing. I totally understand why people play AB for planes... because planes are a lot more difficult to be effective with on AB then they are in RB/SB. I also get that not everyone wants to deal with taking off/flying for a while before finding enemies/running out of ammo/etc., but most of these things don't apply to RB/SB tanks. The AB tanks aren't really any easier to drive, the maps are mostly the same, etc. The only real differences are having to actually aim and not instantly spotting everyone across the entire map without actually seeing them.
[QUOTE] [B]From August 11 to August 17th [/B]
Missions to get premium vehicles: Pz.Bfw. Jagdpanther(Germany), Su-122P(USSR), P-63A-10 (USSR), Fw.190 A-5 (Japan), La-5-Fn (Germany), Mustang Mk.IA (Britain), Spitfire Mk. IX (USA).
The mission details will be announced later, you can complete several missions and get different vehicles.[/QUOTE]
So since planes to me is an incomprehensible mystery I'm just going to go for the premium tank. Which one is the best between the two?
[QUOTE=Timebomb575;45653253]that's not how it works
you cant drag your BR down by taking lower BR vehicles, it only takes into account the higher BR vehicle in your lineup[/QUOTE]
[t]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24075839/warthunder/images/wrong.JPG[/t]
[url]http://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/125109-battle-rating-for-arcade-matchmaking-explained-139/[/url]
[quote][B][U][I]The calculation now includes three aircraft with the highest combat rating from the lineup. Meaning, the battle rating (BR) of the "top-end" aircraft in the lineup plus the average BR value of the other two aircraft - the resulting value is the number that the matchmaker will now take into consideration.[/I][/U][/B][/quote]
Totally not how it works.
[QUOTE=PsiSoldier;45653630][t]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24075839/warthunder/images/wrong.JPG[/t]
[url]http://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/125109-battle-rating-for-arcade-matchmaking-explained-139/[/url]
Totally not how it works.[/QUOTE]
oh, well fuck me, edited above post
[QUOTE=Raidyr;45653402]So since planes to me is an incomprehensible mystery I'm just going to go for the premium tank. Which one is the best between the two?[/QUOTE]
Pz Bfw Jagdpanther is a carbon clone of the Jagdpanther, but with a pretty antenna. The module layout (says the CDK) is EXTREMELY SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT, but the base everything else is the same.
The Su-122P is a 122mm stuffed in the agile Su-100-esq chassis. I haven't ever played it, but it's far more "unique" and looks way more fun.
If it was me, I'd go for the Su-122 first, since the Jagdpanther is basically the same thing as in the normal tree + talisman + silver bonus.
(You can always test-drive vehicles too. :v:)
[QUOTE=Doom14;45653987]
(You can always test-drive vehicles too. :v:)[/QUOTE]
Sure but I figured people here had bought one or both of them and wanted some first person accounts.
oh god
[B]oh god[/B]
After a few months of way too many RB battles, I go back to Arcade for the 4Xs on some shit planes.
WHAT. [B]WAS[/B]. [B][U]WRONG WITH ME.[/U][/B]
Everything handles like a drunk Scottish pixie and shit's going way too fucking fast I can't even pay attention I feel like I have the inverse of ADHD.
These new Arcade flat maps spawning everyone face to face with boring ground targets just compounds this even more. You don't have any time to get your bearings or anything, they've just acknowledged that all it will ever be is one big perpetual clusterfuck.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;45654067]Sure but I figured people here had bought one or both of them and wanted some first person accounts.[/QUOTE]
I can't imagine someone spending that much gold on them, but I've been wrong before. People bought that awful 6000 something gold Griffon Spitfire.
My sherman just fell through the ground and drowned on Ash river.
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Edit:
It just happened again. This time I got launched into orbit after drowning.
[IMG_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/hW8icXl.jpg[/IMG_thumb]
I'll never understand why some RB players think the best way to spend the last 28 minutes of a now 1v1 match is to play hide and seek. How can anyone fly in one direction for almost half an hour and not fall asleep?
Oh yes also how does anyone in IFAP squad up? I get the feeling the ingame chat is never actually used.
[QUOTE=TheLolrus;45654426]Oh yes also how does anyone in IFAP squad up? I get the feeling the ingame chat is never actually used.[/QUOTE]
We've tried announcement's in the Steam group, but it doesn't really work well. I'm all ears for a better solution.
But for me? I'm done for tonight. Seriously, fuck everything:
[img]http://i.cubeupload.com/eoH1cb.jpg[/img]
Holy shit, I just had the best Korea match [i]ever,[/i] in my Tu-2s-59, in which the following happened:
-I bombed out both bridges and a pillbox
-I then managed to cripple a Bearcat with my forward guns who was attacking a friendly IL-10
-Somehow, I shot down both a Spit IX and a P-51 with my rear guns
-I managed to get away with only moderate damage and both engine intact
-Suddenly, a P-80 dove on me and I figured I was dead
-Nope, he died to my ass guns too
-His burning corpse rams my wing, I lose my engine and crash
-Meanwhile, the last two Americans die to AAA and [Tetsuo] wins us the match
And as if that wasn't enough, this ice-cold glass of mad from the P-80 pilot was waiting for me when it was over:
[img]http://i.imgur.com/Qc9Ed4p.png[/img]
Today was a good day.
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