[QUOTE=SiberysTranq;45995256]Anyone know what the other armament presets for the Shinden are?
If someone says rockets I will live gaijin 5ever[/QUOTE]
3x30mm Cannons with 60rpg
4x60kg bombs (lol)
[QUOTE=Shibbey;45995350]3x30mm Cannons with 60rpg
4x60kg bombs (lol)[/QUOTE]
Are you seriously telling me I can get 7 30mm cannons on one plane?
I need it
I need it now
[QUOTE=SiberysTranq;45995478]Are you seriously telling me I can get 7 30mm cannons on one plane?
I need it
I need it now[/QUOTE]
He meant 4x30mm is the standard equip and you can get the 4x60kg bombs on top of that.
[QUOTE=SiberysTranq;45995478]Are you seriously telling me I can get 7 30mm cannons on one plane?
I need it
I need it now[/QUOTE]
I'm an idiot and misread your post and made a typo and made you excited and I'm sorry
If it's any consolation apparently J7W1 could get two 7.7 machine guns to aim the 30s :v
[QUOTE=goon165;45993790]I have the disturbing feeling they are going to make me research the 'new' Lancaster before I can buy the Canberra.[/QUOTE]
Nah, you need only the plane right before it.
[QUOTE=Shibbey;45995552]I'm an idiot and misread your post and made a typo and made you excited and I'm sorry
If it's any consolation apparently J7W1 could get two 7.7 machine guns to aim the 30s :v[/QUOTE]
Ah well
Still it'll be nice to have a serious bomber-killer now
[t]http://i.imgur.com/6QpwbY1.jpg[/t]
advanced humor for mature people
[QUOTE=BBOOBBYY!;45995771][t]http://i.imgur.com/6QpwbY1.jpg[/t]
advanced humor for mature people[/QUOTE]The 141 owns everything in T1 with HVR's.
Maybe I missed it because I'm running on like two hours of sleep and have a paper due and in History class Socrates is going on trial early, but: [URL="http://devblog.warthunder.com/2014/09/16/in-development-new-shell-icons/?hl=en"]New Devblog[/URL].
Basically just going over new ammo icons. I really hope we get this level of information about airplane ammo at some point.
[t]http://devblog.warthunder.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/shot-2014.09.16-20.26.59.jpg[/t]
It uses a really cool multi-layer system based on:
[B]Shell Type[/B]
[IMG]http://devblog.warthunder.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Shells_Eng.jpg[/IMG]
[B]Impact/Payload Type[/B]
[IMG]http://devblog.warthunder.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/осколочнофугасное.png[/IMG]
[IMG]http://devblog.warthunder.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/кинетическое.png[/IMG]
[B]Armor Penetration Capability[/B]
[IMG]http://devblog.warthunder.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/4-градации.png[/IMG]
Fucking love those new icons. Hopefully it'll mean that'll have actually competent teammates ingame!
(a man can dream)
Why unstack the p51s? and why the fuck is that useless piece of shit f7f before f8f? fuck, i'm never going to get a jet, like ever.
[QUOTE=aydin690;45996720]Why unstack the p51s? and why the fuck is that useless piece of shit f7f before f8f? fuck, i'm never going to get a jet, like ever.[/QUOTE]
Because D-30 is getting post-war upgrades. Because the F7F will actually probably be a decent heavy fighter. American entry level jets are either useless (P80) or are good but you fight top level jets all the time and are actually capable of fighting them but you're basically the freshest meat (F9F)
[QUOTE=aydin690;45996720]why the fuck is that useless piece of shit f7f before f8f?[/QUOTE]
[t]http://devblog.warthunder.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/f7f1_2.jpg[/t]
[B]F7F[/B]
[quote]Maximum speed: 460 mph (400 knots, 740 km/h)
Range: 1,200 mi (1,000 nmi, 1,900 km)
Service ceiling: 40,400 ft (12,300 m)
Rate of climb: 4,530 ft/min (23 m/s)
4 × 20 mm (0.79 in) M2 cannon with 200RPG
4 × 0.50 in (12.7 mm) M2 Browning with 400RPG[/quote]
[B]F8F[/B]
[quote]Maximum speed: 421 mph (366 kn, 678 km/h)
Range: 1,105 mi (1,778 km)
Service ceiling: 38,700 ft (11,796 m)
Rate of climb: 4,570 ft/min (23.2 m/s)
4 x M3 (will be changed to M2) Brownings with 270RPG~
or 4 x M3 20mm cannons 206RPG~[/quote]
[highlight]0/10 would not clap for, see me after class[/highlight]
I'm upset because i am researching f8f-1 right now.
[QUOTE=Doom14;45996548][URL="http://devblog.warthunder.com/2014/09/16/in-development-new-shell-icons/?hl=en"]New Devblog[/URL].[/QUOTE]
The icons aren't "useful", they're too vague. "This thing goes boom pretty good, and it's meh at penetrating". It's a really cool detail though, an awesome addition that the game will be better with than without.
[QUOTE=aydin690;45997533]I'm upset because i am researching f8f-1 right now.[/QUOTE]
Now that's a legit complaint. I've had the same happen to me a lot. The extra 190s fluffed out the line on my way to the 152 twice over. They added the CL-13A, what a treat, and then right as I almost finished the 262, they added two more 262s. I know there's more examples, but shit happens.
Least the F7F looks actually really good if they don't totally gut it's flight model.
[sp]COUGH COUGH TWIN STANG COUGH WHERE'S MY GUNPOD COUGH[/sp]
[QUOTE=Orkel;45997577]The icons aren't "useful", they're too vague. "This thing goes boom pretty good, and it's meh at penetrating". It's a really cool detail though, an awesome addition that the game will be better with than without.[/QUOTE]
They're infinitely better than what we had previously. It was a fucking nightmare trying to switch between similar AP/APC/APBC/etc shells and not knowing what was what, back then. For me, I'm just happy for the reference. If I actually want to see it's real stats, I'll look over it in the hanger. The thing War Thunder is missing is a button/mouse option to read over the stats/names in the middle of a match.
[sp]Nothing was better than certain pub transfers from a certain game complaining that their 0.9kg APCR shell with no filler wasn't doing any "damage" to the enemy.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Doom14;45997616]Now that's a legit complaint. I've had the same happen to me a lot. The extra 190s fluffed out the line on my way to the 152 twice over. They added the CL-13A, what a treat, and then right as I almost finished the 262, they added two more 262s. I know there's more examples, but shit happens.
Least the F7F looks actually really good if they don't totally gut it's flight model.
[sp]COUGH COUGH TWIN STANG COUGH WHERE'S MY GUNPOD COUGH[/sp]
[/QUOTE]
I don't know why they've gutted the FMs for every twin engined prop fighter above Era III; currently, the best are the P-38, XF5F, Beaufighters, Ki-45s/96/102 and BF110. Short of that, the ME 410s are wonky to fly even with airbrakes, Mosquitos got boned, F-82 blows...
[QUOTE=MAC21500;45998060]F-82 blows...[/QUOTE]
It's running on about on about half or less engine power. One of them only outputs 10% power, and the other I'm pretty sure is fucked too.
It might actually be decent with proper power and the ability to not overheat before hitting 2000m. :v:
[QUOTE=MAC21500;45998060]I don't know why they've gutted the FMs for every twin engined prop fighter above Era III; currently, the best are the P-38, XF5F, Beaufighters, Ki-45s/96/102 and BF110. Short of that, the ME 410s are wonky to fly even with airbrakes, Mosquitos got boned, F-82 blows...[/QUOTE]
Only the Beaufighter X is actually flyable. VIc is complete trash for energy retention, Mk21 is at a completely hilarious tier or it would be if it wasn't so sad.
[QUOTE=Shibbey;45998184]Only the Beaufighter X is actually flyable. VIc is complete trash for energy retention, Mk21 is at a completely hilarious tier or it would be if it wasn't so sad.[/QUOTE]
mk21 is literally retarded. Why would they put it so high with such shit tier cannons
[QUOTE=aydin690;45996720]Why unstack the p51s? and why the fuck is that useless piece of shit f7f before f8f? fuck, i'm never going to get a jet, like ever.[/QUOTE]
If you just want a jet in general grind the German heavy fighter line to get the Ho-229 because that's all that's being added to that line.
[QUOTE=Taepodong-2;45998841]If you just want a jet in general grind the German heavy fighter line to get the Ho-229 because that's all that's being added to that line.[/QUOTE]
Not even close:
[t]http://i.imgur.com/kbfUNfl.jpg[/t]
I'm genuinely curious about the F7F. It's a plane that has to fly 180mph to climb at it's best rate. Don't really know how I feel about this.
[QUOTE=doomsniper;45999467]I'm genuinely curious about the F7F. It's a plane that has to fly 180mph to climb at it's best rate. Don't really know how I feel about this.[/QUOTE]
At what kind of angle? If anything, it's like the F8F where you just point it up at 25-30 degrees right after taking off and let the raw, unbridled freedom carry you to the heavens.
[QUOTE=doomsniper;45999467]I'm genuinely curious about the F7F. It's a plane that has to fly 180mph to climb at it's best rate. Don't really know how I feel about this.[/QUOTE]
That's generally the speed I try to maintain while climbing anyway, usually a little faster.
[QUOTE=Doom14;45996548]Maybe I missed it because I'm running on like two hours of sleep and have a paper due and in History class Socrates is going on trial early, but: [URL="http://devblog.warthunder.com/2014/09/16/in-development-new-shell-icons/?hl=en"]New Devblog[/URL].
Basically just going over new ammo icons. I really hope we get this level of information about airplane ammo at some point.
[t]http://devblog.warthunder.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/shot-2014.09.16-20.26.59.jpg[/t]
It uses a really cool multi-layer system based on:
[B]Shell Type[/B]
[IMG]http://devblog.warthunder.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Shells_Eng.jpg[/IMG]
[B]Impact/Payload Type[/B]
[IMG]http://devblog.warthunder.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/осколочнофугасное.png[/IMG]
[IMG]http://devblog.warthunder.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/кинетическое.png[/IMG]
[B]Armor Penetration Capability[/B]
[IMG]http://devblog.warthunder.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/4-градации.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
In the shell type icon list, APCBC round has a two yellow bands. But in the T-34E modifications window the BR-350SP APCBC round has one yellow and one red band.
:psyduck:
[QUOTE=Skwee;45999849]That's generally the speed I try to maintain while climbing anyway, usually a little faster.[/QUOTE]
You're knocking off a like 500 to 1000 feet per minute off your optimal depending on plane.
[QUOTE=Doom14;45999474]At what kind of angle? If anything, it's like the F8F where you just point it up at 25-30 degrees right after taking off and let the raw, unbridled freedom carry you to the heavens.[/QUOTE]
No clue, I just spouted whatever the value was from the manual.
[QUOTE=doomsniper;46000487]You're knocking off a like 500 to 1000 feet per minute off your optimal depending on plane.
No clue, I just spouted whatever the value was from the manual.[/QUOTE]
Best Rate of Climb (Vy)
After takeoff, the aircraft should normally be configured for the Best Rate of Climb. This will provide the best climb for the maximum gain in altitude in the shortest time possible. You will get to your selected cruising altitude in the shortest time possible. Altitude is your friend, and particularly after takeoff, you want to gain the maximum height above the ground in the least time possible. Vy provides you with the Best Rate of Climb.
Best Angle of Climb (Vx)
Occasionally, it may be necessary to gain the maximum altitude possible over the shortest distance on the ground. To achieve this, the pilot would use the Best Angle of Climb or Vx. This would be applicable if you needed to clear an obstacle or obstruction on the ground shortly after takeoff. The pilot would configure the aircraft for the Best Angle of Climb to gain the maximum altitude possible before reaching the obstacle (i.e. Tree) located beyond the runway.
Vx is slower than Vy. This makes sense, as Vx will have a slower forward speed. The slower forward speed of the airplane will provide more opportunity for altitude gain before reaching the obstacle to be cleared. An easy way to remember Vx vs. Vy, is to ask yourself which letter has more angles? The letter X has more angles than the letter Y. As such, you will always remember Vx is the Best Angle of Climb, and Vy is the Best Rate of Climb.
I'd rather have numbers, not icons. Or both. This shell can penetrate this thumb's width worth of armor... Okay great, so how much is that?
[QUOTE=Skwee;45998713]mk21 is literally retarded. Why would they put it so high with such shit tier cannons[/QUOTE]
The cannons are fine and it has 6x12.7mms on top of them. Problem is that it's by far the slowest and least agile fighter at its rank, completely worthless at anything other than head-ons.
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