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[QUOTE=DETrooper;46352829]Isn't the M103 past the cutoff date? [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M103_heavy_tank[/url] [IMG]http://i.gyazo.com/32a94784201fbd0eb23eeda56ca67187.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] Literally that same page: [quote]In 1953–54 a series of 300 tanks, initially designated T43E1, were built by Chrysler at the Newark plant. Testing was unsatisfactory, with the tanks entering storage in August 1955. After improvement recommendations, on 26 April, 1956 the tank was designated the M103 Heavy Tank.[/quote] Cut-off is usually for production of completed prototypes/models (ZSU-57-2), not service date.

Plus they've already broken the cut-off by introducing the West and East German MiGs and Sabres.

Tier 4 japan repair costs make zero sense. Even with premium, i have to get at least two kills just to break even. I'd be fine with 43k repair cost of tier 4 japanese planes if they only faced their historical opponents, ie f4us, p38s, f6fs, b17s, etc. However, they face jets that outclass them in every way.

[QUOTE=aydin690;46353622]Tier 4 japan repair costs make zero sense.[/QUOTE] J7W cannot make a profit on a death-loss unless you become Atlas himself. Repair costs are a shit way to balance planes, but they use it anyways because I could repair 3-5 fuckin' Sabres for the cost of a J7W or Ki-84 Hei

[QUOTE=Doom14;46353635]J7W cannot make a profit on a death-loss unless you become Atlas himself. Repair costs are a shit way to balance planes, but they use it anyways because I could repair 3-5 fuckin' Sabres for the cost of a J7W or Ki-84 Hei[/QUOTE] Because of this I don't know if I'm going to keep flying the Shinden after my free repairs run out. The repair costs are ludicrous and arbitrary. Part of the reason I stopped flying the Ki-84 and have been flying the N1K ever since is because for reasons beyond me, the repair costs are half that of the Ki-84.

Any dev server time in sight?

[QUOTE=lekkimsm;46353944]Any dev server time in sight?[/QUOTE] New patch? Please tell me f7f is getting buttfucked.

[QUOTE=aydin690;46353994]New patch? Please tell me f7f is getting buttfucked.[/QUOTE] F7F already got it's "go-fast-juice" limited to 11 minute supply, at the very least. Dunno if they did other things to it. [editline]28th October 2014[/editline] [t]http://sinus.cz/~milan/what_is_canberra.png[/t] smooth landing 2014

[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;46354018]F7F already got it's "go-fast-juice" limited to 11 minute supply, at the very least. Dunno if they did other things to it. [/QUOTE] Didn't lassar also say its BR is getting increased to 6, possibly 6.3?

[QUOTE=aydin690;46354215]Didn't lassar also say its BR is getting increased to 6, possibly 6.3?[/QUOTE] BR system is getting dropkicked out of RB.

[QUOTE=aydin690;46354215]Didn't lassar also say its BR is getting increased to 6, possibly 6.3?[/QUOTE] I hope so. Thing could easily be competitive up there.

[QUOTE=Shibbey;46354228]BR system is getting dropkicked out of RB.[/QUOTE] Soon?

Meteor grind finished, sea meteor grind begins.

[QUOTE=Shibbey;46354228]BR system is getting dropkicked out of RB.[/QUOTE] In the future™.

To be honest I don't really care about F7Fs at all besides their ability to run away until they are out of fuel. Spitty Mk24 takes them to school in a fight, and so does N1K and Ki-84. Fw 190 Ds can at least always dodge and is currently best equipped for head-ons against them. Soviets are just fucked tho.

[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;46354932]To be honest I don't really care about F7Fs at all besides their ability to run away until they are out of fuel. Spitty Mk24 takes them to school in a fight, and so does N1K and Ki-84. Fw 190 Ds can at least always dodge and is currently best equipped for head-ons against them. Soviets are just fucked tho.[/QUOTE] I face them all the time in my zero. Fighting f7fs in a zero feels like fighting top tier jets in props.

So I just unlocked the F84B jet, yeah people say it sucks but trying it for like less than 2 hours. I think I will like it. So far gotten 5 kills, its really stable at high speeds, and high speed handling as well as the instructor working properly makes for a good firing platform. Though that said, it has a hard time gaining energy, and once out. Its game over.

I don't like how Gaijin calls their nerfs for "Making more historical" I'm pretty sure that the F6 and P-51 could out run a Ki-84 or A6M when their top speed was around 660km/h and the P-51 was around 710km/h

Anyone up for tier 3/4 Jap right now? [editline]29th October 2014[/editline] Also, fighting P-47s and XP-50s are the absolute easiest kills for Japanese planes ever.

[QUOTE=Teippiman;46357573]I don't like how Gaijin calls their nerfs for "Making more historical" I'm pretty sure that the F6 and P-51 could out run a Ki-84 or A6M when their top speed was around 660km/h and the P-51 was around 710km/h[/QUOTE] P51s are faster than ki84s in a straight line but ki84s have better acceleration and dive speed.

[QUOTE=Doom14;46350810][B]HEAVY BREATHING.[/B][/QUOTE] Time for bullshit american 120mm to ruin this game's upper tiers just like it did in WoT. Woo.

[QUOTE=MadCatMkII;46357817]Time for bullshit american 120mm to ruin this game's upper tiers just like it did in WoT. Woo.[/QUOTE] I must've played a different WOT than you did. American 120s were the least of my concerns while facing hordes of Russian-bias wagons and waffentragers.

I also caught: (Technically these are old news, but I never posted here for you lads.) us_m22_locust us_m2_medium us_m41_walker_bulldog Cannot verify, but hey. It's all coming from this one guy who's gotten way better at datamining than anyone else. These are coming from texture/icon headers, but are new as of dev patches. There's also a list of cannons and ammo too: [quote]37 mm M3 cannon 75 mm M32 cannon 75 mm M6 cannon 75 mm M3 cannon 76 mm M7 cannon 76 mm M1 cannon 76 mm M1A1 cannon 76 mm M1A2 cannon 76 mm M32 cannon 120 mm M58 cannon --- 37mm: M74 shot M51 shot M63 shell 76mm: M352 shell M496 shell M331A2 shot M319 shot M339 shot M93 shot M79 shot M62 shell M42A1 shell 120mm: M469 shell M358 shot M356 shell[/quote]

[QUOTE=Doom14;46358022]M319 shot M339 shot M93 shot M79 shot[/quote] If I think that's what it is, I can't wait to see this used as improvised rounds against oncoming aircraft

[QUOTE=goon165;46352024]Well if they let the T29 series in the T30 is a pretty easy fit for Era V. but you know [B]Prototypes[/B][/QUOTE] If they want Japan to be borderline playable they're going to have to dig very deeply into their prototype tanks. Their main battle tank was the Type 95 Ha-Go, which was equivalent to the American M3 Stuart (aka shitty against other tanks). Their answer to the M4 Sherman (which honestly wasn't designed to be fighting other tanks either) didn't come until 1944 with the Type 3 Chi-Nu, which only saw a production of about 100 and never saw any battle as they were allocated to protect the home islands from invasion. Anything past that (unless you want to count the Type 4 Chi-To which saw a production of [b]two[/b]) you're getting into tanks that either just saw the design phase or managed to be prototyped. Not to mention the only jet they get is a shittier version of the Me163 that saw two prototypes and a single powered flight test (which crashed and killed the pilot).

One solution could be just cutting the Japanese tank tree off at era 3 or 4, then limiting what they can meet in battle. Isn't ideal, but it's better than nothing.

Well, they've already done it. R2Y2s never existed, Japan was planning on making them. Gaijin basically invented them, based on blueprints.

[QUOTE=TrafficMan;46358184]Not to mention the only jet they get is a shittier version of the Me163 that saw two prototypes and a single powered flight test (which crashed and killed the pilot).[/QUOTE] Gonna nitpick and remind you that it's not a jet; it's a rocket-powered airplane. Doesn't Japan now have the Kitsuka and (bs) R2Y2 jet fighters, or am I massively misinterpreting your post?

[QUOTE=aydin690;46358349]Well, they've already done it. R2Y2s never existed, Japan was planning on making them. Gaijin basically invented them, based on blueprints.[/QUOTE] An R2Y2 airframe was nearly completed when the war ended. [editline]29th October 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Teippiman;46357573]I don't like how Gaijin calls their nerfs for "Making more historical" I'm pretty sure that the F6 and P-51 could out run a Ki-84 or A6M when their top speed was around 660km/h and the P-51 was around 710km/h[/QUOTE] P-51 goes 710kmh TAS when it's at like, 8km up. It's slower at low altitudes.

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