[QUOTE=archival;46462410]Fixed that for you[/QUOTE]
Keep that History Channel heritage going
[editline]11th November 2014[/editline]
Besides this game was never historically matched.
If we were to go back to history matching, nobody would make it to Tiger because Germans would be literally incapable of killing the KV-1s that should historically be at era 1.
[QUOTE=Shibbey;46462656]Still patiently waiting for the day when the Panther starts shitting itself and spraying fuel all over its own engine before bursting into flames, historical accuracy bruv[/QUOTE]
Don't forget not being able to use the two final gears without breaking them...
[QUOTE=millan;46462953]Keep that History Channel heritage going
[editline]11th November 2014[/editline]
Besides this game was never historically matched.
If we were to go back to history matching, nobody would make it to Tiger because Germans would be literally incapable of killing the KV-1s that should historically be at era 1.[/QUOTE]
And the KV-2
I'd love it if the only way for Russian teams to communicate to each other were with signal flags.
[QUOTE=MrWhite;46464659]I'd love it if the only way for Russian teams to communicate to each other were with signal flags.[/QUOTE]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/4j6tfhv.png[/IMG]
[QUOTE=MrWhite;46464659]I'd love it if the only way for Russian teams to communicate to each other were with signal flags.[/QUOTE]
Implying anybody on either side communicates with the team besides profanities.
[QUOTE=MrWhite;46464659]I'd love it if the only way for Russian teams to communicate to each other were with signal flags.[/QUOTE]
Shoot the crew members as they pop out to signal...
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;46465297]Implying anybody on either side communicates with the team besides profanities.[/QUOTE]
I'll have you know I recently played a round where the team had a heated political debate about Israel for a good five minutes.
Granted, it was just the team calling Israel a Nazi state over and over, but at least it wasn't five minutes of cyka scripture.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;46465297]Implying anybody on either side communicates with the team besides profanities.[/QUOTE]
[sp]The flags in my post spell out "CYKA"[/sp] :v:
[vid]http://a.pomf.se/qeevvs.mp4[/vid]
Some of today's simulator battles adventures, big-ish file warning, 33mb.
[url=http://a.pomf.se/kqmdlc.mp4]Bonus Meatbox kill[/url]
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;46465297]Implying anybody on either side communicates with the team besides profanities.[/QUOTE]
Stuff like enemy positions being communicated with only flag signals would be more realistic.
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[QUOTE=Crumpet;46466113]what happened to the custom missions feature? am i being blind?
i wanna test some cannons against a fleet of bombers, damnit[/QUOTE]
There's always the IL-2 editor.
Where I can fly the Nazi Narwhal against entire formations of atom-bomb B-29s to my heart's content.
[QUOTE=Shibbey;46462656]Still patiently waiting for the day when the Panther starts shitting itself and spraying fuel all over its own engine before bursting into flames, historical accuracy bruv[/QUOTE]
And I'm waiting for t34s that have barely functioning electric turret drives shooting sparks everywhere, warped optics full of bubbles, the finest brittle mass produced metal available, terrible transmissions, air filters that did more harm than good, and a lack of rubber on the road wheels.
People that think Soviet tanks were glorious, invincible Stalin chariots that never broke down due to being "super reliable" are just as bad as the wehrbabies. Soviet tanks were "reliable" not because they never broke down, but because acquiring replacement parts for them were far easier than their over engineered German counterparts.
Not directed at you personally. Just a general (and mostly likely unpopular) statement.
[url]http://tankarchives.blogspot.com/2013/04/aberdeen-t-34-and-kv-1-test.html[/url]
[url]http://books.google.com/books/about/T_34_In_Action.html?id=maskFAKnoUUC[/url]
[url]http://chris-intel-corner.blogspot.gr/2012/07/wwii-myths-t-34-best-tank-of-war.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Lupin;46468543]And I'm waiting for t34s that have barely functioning electric turret drives shooting sparks everywhere, warped optics full of bubbles, the finest brittle mass produced metal available, terrible transmissions, air filters that did more harm than good, and a lack of rubber on the road wheels.[/QUOTE]
Heh.
All tanks had shite going on, we know this. But thanks to History Channel and a myriad of other tripe, a lot of us are subjected to Wehraboos more often than Slavaboos or.. whatever the Burger equivalent is. The perpetuated fetish dream of a Tiger on a hill stopping a wave of T-34s (or Shermans) is what we get tired of. The perpetuation of Slavaboos so far as been pretty quiet in War Thunder, at least in terms of armor. The worst Germany's ever had it has been is when the T-50 and early T-34s had such a low BR that they could rip shit while being invincible. Can't talk for Era V because the current 40% RP income makes me not want to play.
I had a friend who would bitch every time he died in his Tiger to something not 122mm or greater. I had to hear him talk up and down about how it should've been invincible, "muh angling", and general refusal to acknowledge how powerful the 57 and 85mm Russian guns were against a Tiger's armor.
(Though in fairness, T-34-57s were exceedingly rare, another I-185 comedy, and yet are the Russian metagame right now because of their velocity/pen. Somethin' like 40-50 of them were rumored to be produced versus the 35,000 total T-34s. Which I guess is a better step up from the 4 I-185s. If the Tiger gets some other ammo choices, with more penetration, it could easily be bumped up to 6.3-6.7 and still hold it's ground.)
[QUOTE=Doom14;46468644]Heh.
All tanks had shite going on[/QUOTE]
I think this sums it up pretty well :v: :
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/mo1rE4j.png[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Lupin;46468708]I think this sums it up pretty well :v: :
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/mo1rE4j.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Well at the least Shermans were produced with better quality control and the fire problem was mostly sorted out by the end of the war. The only reason why the T-34 outmatched the Sherman production wise was because the Russians were trying to pump them out as quick as they could with no regard to quality control and primitive production methods so quite a few T-34s had defects as a result of being rushed out of a factory and to the frontlines, but there was a new T-34 right behind it to replace it when it broke down or was lost.
Also I keep hearing that the 76mm M1A1/2 had better penetration than the 85mm. Personally I think they should remove the T-34-57s and reimburse the people who have them with gold and lions or at least limit how many of them a team can field at once.
It would also be nice if tanks had their historically accurate gun sights with functional zeroing and ranging finding rather than the same generic one they currently have.
[QUOTE=Bbarnes005;46468731]Personally I think they should remove the T-34-57s and reimburse the people who have them with gold and lions or at least limit how many of them a team can field at once.[/QUOTE]
It should've been a premium, as with the I-185 (regardless of the fact it's a "gap fill" from MiG-3 to MiG-9), and they should be focusing more on big-name planes (and tanks) and their variants (woe to the P-38s) before more prototype/few-off shit and [del]reskinned[/del] ""captured"" premiums. Like, did we really need a premium IL-2 for Russia and Romanian 109G/129B-2 for Germany? [highlight]Really?[/highlight]
I mean I could sit and poke holes at a lot of production oddities in War Thunder. Still wondering why we have four 262s and three R2Y2s, or we can go back to the 6 Spaghetti Bombers/Yer-2s/SB-2Ms. (Actually upwards of 8 SB-2Ms if you count ones not in the research tree, like the 100A and 100A Spain.)
But like, that's just my opinion, man. I'd just prefer that the low-production stuff be low-priority.
What about rising the cost of tanks like the Tiger, T-34-57 and other over performing tanks so you don't start out with them, having to work to get them like planes in ground forces and remove or reduce the increasing cost system.
[QUOTE=Deathgrunt;46469826]What about rising the cost of tanks like the Tiger and T-34-57 so you don't start out with them, having to work to get them like planes in ground forces and remove or reduce the increasing cost system.[/QUOTE]
Doesn't solve AB and if Japan has taught us anything, it's that increasing costs just makes it's player-base more hardcore and insane. It would also make it awkward in matches where the Tiger/34-57 aren't top dogs from the get go.
I'm still under the assumption tanks is kinda fucked and needs a lot of work in economy, balance, and mechanics - so take my opinions with some salt licks.
[sp]I also dove back in WoT for a bit and quit just as fast. I totally forgot artillery players, poot-poot tractor engine sounds, and gold ammo were actual things. Don't think I've ever downloaded and deleted eight gigs of anything so fast.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Doom14;46469842]Doesn't solve AB and if Japan has taught us anything, it's that increasing costs just makes it's player-base more hardcore and insane. It would also make it awkward in matches where the Tiger/34-57 aren't top dogs from the get go.
I'm still under the assumption tanks is kinda fucked and needs a lot of work in economy, balance, and mechanics - so take my opinions with some salt licks.[/QUOTE]
I was talking about the spawn score system in game not the XP system but yeah AB and I'm pretty sure SB don't use those so still not greatest suggestion.
Yeah the T-34-57 Mod43 shouldn't have been premium, it should have been proper mainline tank so Soviets would have something to actually steadily counter Tiger SPAM with, that isn't a premium.
Not to mention that the sovier 57mm and 85mm should have no issues ruining tigers frontally with standard ammo. The need of the APCR only makes the entire thing much sillier.
So my Do 217 pilot I just got one shot by AAA, in just under 5 secs of flak fire.....
Sometimes at a 3.7BR I randomly get dragged into a battle with 5.7 tanks
It's scary spawning your T-34 1941/42 and seeing KV-2s leaving your spawn
[editline]12th November 2014[/editline]
Also FUCK POLAND I swear I play that map 8 out of 10 games
[editline]12th November 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Doom14;46469842][sp]I also dove back in WoT for a bit and quit just as fast. I totally forgot artillery players, poot-poot tractor engine sounds, and gold ammo were actual things. Don't think I've ever downloaded and deleted eight gigs of anything so fast.[/sp][/QUOTE]
Planes in ground forces battles really remind me of arty players in WoT
Now that I think about it that's the reason I quit way back when (in beta??), get spotted by one enemy and suddenly 5 rounds fly in from the back of their side of the map and you're dead
[QUOTE=TrafficMan;46470134]Sometimes at a 3.7BR I randomly get dragged into a battle with 5.7 tanks
It's scary spawning your T-34 1941/42 and seeing KV-2s leaving your spawn
[editline]12th November 2014[/editline]
Also FUCK POLAND I swear I play that map 8 out of 10 games
[editline]12th November 2014[/editline]
Planes in ground forces battles really remind me of arty players in WoT
Now that I think about it that's the reason I quit way back when (in beta??), get spotted by one enemy and suddenly 5 rounds fly in from the back of their side of the map and you're dead[/QUOTE]
Thing about planes is that you can see them coming and attempt to dodge. Even then most aren't even that great of pilots and seem to home into the ground. I'm not that worried about planes as I was with arty, there are actual a lot more drawbacks for them. Not forgetting they can be intercepted by your own team.
[QUOTE=Lupin;46468543]And I'm waiting for t34s that have barely functioning electric turret drives shooting sparks everywhere, warped optics full of bubbles, the finest brittle mass produced metal available, terrible transmissions, air filters that did more harm than good, and a lack of rubber on the road wheels.
People that think Soviet tanks were glorious, invincible Stalin chariots that never broke down due to being "super reliable" are just as bad as the wehrbabies. Soviet tanks were "reliable" not because they never broke down, but because acquiring replacement parts for them were far easier than their over engineered German counterparts.
Not directed at you personally. Just a general (and mostly likely unpopular) statement.
[url]http://tankarchives.blogspot.com/2013/04/aberdeen-t-34-and-kv-1-test.html[/url]
[url]http://books.google.com/books/about/T_34_In_Action.html?id=maskFAKnoUUC[/url]
[url]http://chris-intel-corner.blogspot.gr/2012/07/wwii-myths-t-34-best-tank-of-war.html[/url][/QUOTE]
The issue w/ WT and other tank games as a whole is that tanks weren't built just to kill other tanks, you have to understand the context most were used in. The T-34 was a [I]vastly superior[/I] infantry support vehicle than the Panther, just objectively, for example. The Panther's gun made it almost unusable in urban environments, with extremely bad visibility, painfully slow turret traverse made it extremely vulnerable to AT gun teams (which are better for killing tanks than tanks ever were), and the HE shell of long 75 was utter shite. Also, Panther and Tiger were almost exclusively used defensively, with a terrain advantage, with lots of cover, set up to ambush. Of course they were going to kill more tanks, allied tanks on the offensive have to suffer through land mines, tank traps, not knowing where the enemy is, etc. There's an American wartime document somewhere putting this in more detail, where it points out every time a group of Panthers/Tigers went on the offensive vs Shermans, even if they outnumbered the Americans they would get slaughtered. Camping is just absurdly advantageous in tank vs tank combat, especially when infantry isn't a thing.
What I'm saying is nazis should've built more Stugs
Also that third article should feel fuckin dumb for using German records for kills/losses considering how much they just flat out lied and invented entire tank batallions for their crews to kill
[QUOTE=Doom14;46468644](Though in fairness, T-34-57s were exceedingly rare, another I-185 comedy, and yet are the Russian metagame right now because of their velocity/pen. Somethin' like 40-50 of them were rumored to be produced versus the 35,000 total T-34s. Which I guess is a better step up from the 4 I-185s. If the Tiger gets some other ammo choices, with more penetration, it could easily be bumped up to 6.3-6.7 and still hold it's ground.)[/QUOTE]
They were rare because AT guns were simply enough to deal with tanks, and the 57mm wasn't worth dedicating to a tank because then it can't fight infantry properly
And the I-185s are necessary for the sake of balance
[QUOTE=O'Neil;46470735]Thing about planes is that you can see them coming and attempt to dodge. Even then most aren't even that great of pilots and seem to home into the ground. I'm not that worried about planes as I was with arty, there are actual a lot more drawbacks for them. Not forgetting they can be intercepted by your own team.[/QUOTE]
Every time I've been killed by a plane it's some idiot dive bombing me (regardless of plane, even in medium bombers) and releasing his bombs moments before impact because the life of your plane has zero meaning and honestly you need to get back to your tank because planes don't win games
[QUOTE=TrafficMan;46470837]Every time I've been killed by a plane it's some idiot dive bombing me (regardless of plane, even in medium bombers) and releasing his bombs moments before impact because the life of your plane has zero meaning and honestly you need to get back to your tank because planes don't win games[/QUOTE]
I can feel you on that. It's why I settle my tank down and intercept the bastard myself, I can't seem to count on anyone to do it. One time when I went on to actually go use the 'attacker' to strafe some targets I got two people who volunteered to be my escorts, instead of actually protecting me from the enemy interceptors they instead go and kamikaze into tanks, which in the end got me killed because I was to fat to run away from the scary fighters. Should be some repair penalty or something for getting your loaned aircraft damaged/destroyed.
[QUOTE=TrafficMan;46470837]Every time I've been killed by a plane it's some idiot dive bombing me (regardless of plane, even in medium bombers) and releasing his bombs moments before impact because the life of your plane has zero meaning and honestly you need to get back to your tank because planes don't win games[/QUOTE]
That's not entirely true. I've carried at least a few games in my Yak-9T by setting nerds on fire when my team couldn't get a good shot/they were Tigers and couldn't be penned/they were heading for cap.
For whatever reason the plane pilots in CARB are pretty shitty so even though I'm still learning how to fly realistic I can take them out and then fire at the rear of tanks uninterrupted with 37mm AP.
[QUOTE=Securitas;46473162]That's not entirely true. I've carried at least a few games in my Yak-9T by setting nerds on fire when my team couldn't get a good shot/they were Tigers and couldn't be penned/they were heading for cap.
For whatever reason the plane pilots in CARB are pretty shitty so even though I'm still learning how to fly realistic I can take them out and then fire at the rear of tanks uninterrupted with 37mm AP.[/QUOTE]
You can't learn how to fly in a Yak 9.
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