Part of the problem in CARB is that Germans get roflstomped by YAKs if they are flying anything other than a fighter, which aren't the best close air support aircraft (save YAKs).
More often than not, German teams would be SOL for air cover; that being said, aircraft never really won games because they were shot down pretty quickly or crashed, and only ever delivered one bombload.
Here's something you guys might get a kick out of
Airworthy Ki84 5:50 and also 10:00 in a different paintjob
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8waXqQoBri4[/media]
apparently it was sold back to the Japanese, who then sawed off the wingtips with power tools to get it through narrow streets which rendered it unflyable
[QUOTE=Kill001;46475023]...sawed off the wingtips with power tools to get it through narrow streets which rendered it unflyable[/QUOTE]
Good job Japan. One more reason to never like you.
[QUOTE=GhostShoes;46460090]I wish I was you.[/QUOTE]
Try sleeping every other night when 105 Howitzers are exploding in the distance, but close enough to slightly shake your house
[QUOTE=TheTalon;46477310]Try sleeping every other night when 105 Howitzers are exploding in the distance, but close enough to slightly shake your house[/QUOTE]
When I lived in Destin, they would always wake me up at 6AM practicing bombing runs and shit over at Eglin AFB. Doesn't help that the T-6 Texans squadron flying out of the local airport would always do make-believe gun-runs on my neighborhood.
Fighting BF109s and FW190's in a Hellcat in RB seems to be an exercise in frustration, I can't really outclimb them and doing BNZ isn't the best.
The Hellcat seems to be a great plane (it can take a stupid amount of punishment) but how exactly should I play it? It seems more mobile than most american bnz kings but nowhere near the zeroes
[editline]13th November 2014[/editline]
also fuck chaikas
[editline]13th November 2014[/editline]
i wanted to fly one slightly more relaxing rb battle before bed but now im pissed and def not gonna fall asleep easily. who need to go to 830 quiz sections anyways
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;46477633]When I lived in Destin, they would always wake me up at 6AM practicing bombing runs and shit over at Eglin AFB. Doesn't help that the T-6 Texans squadron flying out of the local airport would always do make-believe gun-runs on my neighborhood.[/QUOTE]
What else did they practice besides bombing runs?
[editline]13th November 2014[/editline]
Just tried ground forces for the first time in a long time. We got the poland map which I had never seen before and it was like 5-6 people on each team. We lost with the enemy team having nearly full tickets and I was the only one that got a kill on my team.
What the hell makes people think that they are going to win when they are camping a mile from the only objective?
[QUOTE=Skwee;46478327]Just tried ground forces for the first time in a long time. We got the poland map which I had never seen before and it was like 5-6 people on each team. We lost with the enemy team having nearly full tickets and I was the only one that got a kill on my team.
What the hell makes people think that they are going to win when they are camping a mile from the only objective?[/QUOTE]
In my experience it's like that until about 3.7BR
[editline]13th November 2014[/editline]
At that point you start to get a small squad of people on each team who know what they're doing, the rest are fucking around trying to get kills
Normalization is kinda fucked up in the game right now (visible on the last penetration through the 30mm top plate). Sloped armor is much less effective than it should be. Somebody made a report in the forums on how the game considers the effect of sloped armor far too little, and for instance how (Germany's own) Tiger tank handbook said that Tiger can only penetrate the basic T-34's front armor at under 800m while it's nothing like that in the game.
[QUOTE=Skwee;46478327]What else did they practice besides bombing runs?
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Not really sure. I just remember waking up ever 6am on Sundays to the sound of picture frames falling off the walls and the windows shaking like mad.
Also heard a story once that an F-15 pilot out of Eglin broke the sound barrier and flew under the Mid-Bay Bridge and got court marshaled for it. Supposedly it broke a shitload of windows of people who lived on the water. Probably bullshit but still, kind a cool.
Tried playing the british line up of planes today, jesus god dear fucking what.
Play a Spitfire, 3 games, 3 ripped wings.
Play a Typhoon, 3 games, chased down by A6M3s after diving with a height advantage, ran down and slaughtered. That's enough raising my blood pressure for today.
[QUOTE=TheTalon;46477310]Try sleeping every other night when 105 Howitzers are exploding in the distance, but close enough to slightly shake your house[/QUOTE]
Where are you, next to Ft. Sill?
[QUOTE=Deathgrunt;46470110]So my Do 217 pilot I just got one shot by AAA, in just under 5 secs of flak fire.....[/QUOTE]
this happens to the Dorniers to an unfair degree, as if the completely worthless defensive armament wasn't doing a good enough job making it a flying coffin, Flak has an easier time hitting you than it feels like any other bomber in the game.
to be honest, when I'm trying to repair or bring an enemy back to the airfield, 90% of the time AA proves to be useless
but when I go anywhere near theirs, I get red damaged/shot down within a few seconds.
I'm getting really sick of trying to make the F6F work in RB
[editline]13th November 2014[/editline]
I've flown RB 23 times and killed two things
[QUOTE=paindoc;46484109]I'm getting really sick of trying to make the F6F work in RB
[editline]13th November 2014[/editline]
I've flown RB 23 times and killed two things[/QUOTE]
The F6F is one of many fantastic fighters in the american tree, and while I've never personally used it in RB, I can't imagine it doesn't overperform like mad along with the other near-OP planes in the tree. Last I remember, it plays a lot like early FWs, being really heavy and having a great dive speed, as well as good ground attack armament. I'm not sure it still holds up like it did a few patches ago, but I remember it being a really easy play. Set your convergence low, climb to the side, load ground targets belts (should still work against planes no problem), and BnZ anything you find.
I'll keep trying that, a bunch of people seemed to be saying its a turn fighter but then again these are American pilots we're talking about.
I've been having some fun going up the German tree so maybe I should take a break and get a Bf109 or FW190...
[QUOTE=paindoc;46484402]I'll keep trying that, a bunch of people seemed to be saying its a turn fighter but then again these are American pilots we're talking about.
I've been having some fun going up the German tree so maybe I should take a break and get a Bf109 or FW190...[/QUOTE]
No, those american pilots might actually be right this time. For some reason, I can turnfight in the F6F and do as good if not better than people in zeroes. Hell, I almost shot down two migs with dying tail controls and no help. It's [I]stunningly[/I] good at turnfighting if you do it right.
[QUOTE=Pilotguy97;46484700]No, those american pilots might actually be right this time. For some reason, I can turnfight in the F6F and do as good if not better than people in zeroes. Hell, I almost shot down two migs with dying tail controls and no help. It's [I]stunningly[/I] good at turnfighting if you do it right.[/QUOTE]
you sure? I always get outturned to fuck against zeroes
[editline]14th November 2014[/editline]
im probably just a shitty pilot, seem to be a shitty pilot in every game except FSX and DCS...
[QUOTE=paindoc;46485136]you sure? I always get outturned to fuck against zeroes
[editline]14th November 2014[/editline]
im probably just a shitty pilot, seem to be a shitty pilot in every game except FSX and DCS...[/QUOTE]
dont turnfight zeroes ever
at all
just dont do it unless you like exploding
[QUOTE=Timebomb575;46485237]dont turnfight zeroes ever
at all
just dont do it unless you like exploding[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=paindoc;46485136]you sure? I always get outturned to fuck against zeroes
[editline]14th November 2014[/editline]
im probably just a shitty pilot, seem to be a shitty pilot in every game except FSX and DCS...[/QUOTE]
Oh yeah, I'm not saying you [I]should[/I] be turnfighting zeroes, I'm just saying you can if you really try/want to.
So some guy was saying how much he hates the yak 9 in RB because
"Its so innacurate and has such little ammo urrr why am I even flying it"
Tell him its best stalinwood and I get this
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/YgChbjO.png[/IMG]
[QUOTE=paindoc;46484402]I'll keep trying that, a bunch of people seemed to be saying its a turn fighter but then again these are American pilots we're talking about.
I've been having some fun going up the German tree so maybe I should take a break and get a Bf109 or FW190...[/QUOTE]
Every dogfight is going to be slightly different depending on the skill level of the pilots and the altitude/speed advantages either side may have. You just need to learn how to force the enemy into making mistakes while minimizing how many mistakes you make. There'll always be situations where you're completely fucked unless you perform flawlessly, but with 23 battles and only 2 kills you should probably take a moment after getting shot down to figure out what you did wrong and how you can avoid making that mistake in the future.
Listening to advice on how to fly certain planes is fine, but you should really rely on your past experiences to win engagements. Actually take time to learn from your mistakes or you'll just keep repeating them.
If you really want a massive edge over other pilots start learning how to land deflection shots from 500+ meters, most enemies won't expect you to hit them from that far and it's not actually that hard to do.
Thanks guys
and yeah Valdor you're probably most correct here in that I'm so damn competitive nowadays (comp CSGO kids not even once) that if I'm not winning I just get frustrated and ragequit.
Its probably most of the reason CSGO PS2 and this game just leave me pissed off (and I play them the most). I really need to chill out
[editline]14th November 2014[/editline]
also yeah the F6F seems to put out massive power and can climb like a motherfucker, plus its agile enough you can really track targets in BnZ maneuvers. Just gotta work on my RB flight more
[QUOTE=paindoc;46485397]Thanks guys
and yeah Valdor you're probably most correct here in that I'm so damn competitive nowadays (comp CSGO kids not even once) that if I'm not winning I just get frustrated and ragequit.
Its probably most of the reason CSGO PS2 and this game just leave me pissed off (and I play them the most). I really need to chill out
[editline]14th November 2014[/editline]
also yeah the F6F seems to put out massive power and can climb like a motherfucker, plus its agile enough you can really track targets in BnZ maneuvers. Just gotta work on my RB flight more[/QUOTE]
Practise makes perfect, war thunders something you need to put alot of time into in order to get to the point where you can fight people on uneven odds and come out on top reliably.
the F6F is ridiculously good in RB atm
I + me buddy painted some US flags and eagles on ours and went full danger zone
it's a ridiculously undertiered plane, and that's from someone who mostly flies Americans
edit: but yes every dogfight is different, and blanket statements like "don't turnfight in x" or "don't ever BnZ in y" are just unhelpful and promote a very wrong kind of attitude towards combat flying
I know I've high-yoyo'd some japs to death all day long with the P-40E-1 Catbird
[QUOTE=Valdor;46485371]Every dogfight is going to be slightly different depending on the skill level of the pilots and the altitude/speed advantages either side may have. You just need to learn how to force the enemy into making mistakes while minimizing how many mistakes you make. There'll always be situations where you're completely fucked unless you perform flawlessly, but with 23 battles and only 2 kills you should probably take a moment after getting shot down to figure out what you did wrong and how you can avoid making that mistake in the future.
Listening to advice on how to fly certain planes is fine, but you should really rely on your past experiences to win engagements. Actually take time to learn from your mistakes or you'll just keep repeating them.[/QUOTE]
All this is true as fuck it's pretty much gospel
Thing about fighter pilot-ing is it's all about predicting what the other dude will do and trying to be ahead of the curve if possible all while compensating for the performance of both planes (and not every fight is a 1v1 sooooo). You have to know what another plane is capable of doing and will probably do, both what is right and what is completely stupid. It's kinda trial-and-error-y at times, try and watch what experienced players are doing and copy their tactics (or squad up with good people and get on mic)
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