So I shot down my first 2 jets today, I shot down 2 IL-28's while flying my B17-G :v:
[QUOTE=amos106;46705695]The KV is a complete beast that eats shells for breakfast as long as you don't try to match yourself against higher tiered tanks like the tiger. If you do have to face higher tier tanks, don't expect to win a head on slug-fest.[/QUOTE]
with gaijins magical radar system it's hard for tanks to flank
I am always getting matched against tigers
I think I'll just stay away from this horrible 'balance' system in tanks
maybe US release will make it a bit fun again
[QUOTE=Covalent;46710253]with gaijins magical radar system it's hard for tanks to flank
I am always getting matched against tigers
I think I'll just stay away from this horrible 'balance' system in tanks
maybe US release will make it a bit fun again[/QUOTE]
You're playing Arcade, try the more realistic modes. The only way to spot tanks then is to have a good eye.
[QUOTE=Zero-Point;46710706]You're playing Arcade, try the more realistic modes. The only way to spot tanks then is to have a good eye.[/QUOTE]
Radar is in all modes, including SB, where tanks magically pop-up on the minimap, lest it's been removed since I've been playing.
You're thinking about magic Lite-Brite™ spotting in AB/RB where tanks instantly get a red name over their head at just about any distance if there's a visual LoS.
[QUOTE=Doom14;46710802]Radar is in all modes, including SB, where tanks magically pop-up on the minimap, lest it's been removed since I've been playing.
You're thinking about magic Lite-Brite™ spotting in AB/RB where tanks instantly get a red name over their head at just about any distance if there's a visual LoS.[/QUOTE]
Yes? So you get an idea of WHERE they are, but you still have to fine them, and hit them without any aiming aids.
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God dammit I want to edit out "fine" to "find" but I get a blank box. :/
[QUOTE=Zero-Point;46710957]Yes? So you get an idea of WHERE they are, but you still have to fine them, and hit them without any aiming aids.[/QUOTE]
And your ability to sneak up on people or use an ambush spot is destroyed by any one glancing periodically at the mini-map.
[QUOTE=Zero-Point;46710957]God dammit I want to edit out "fine" to "find" but I get a blank box. :/[/QUOTE]
It's because I used a trademark symbol, I think.
[QUOTE=Doom14;46710802]Radar is in all modes, including SB, where tanks magically pop-up on the minimap, lest it's been removed since I've been playing.
You're thinking about magic Lite-Brite™ spotting in AB/RB where tanks instantly get a red name over their head at just about any distance if there's a visual LoS.[/QUOTE]
Don't tanks appear on the minimap as long as they remain in the field of vision of at least one ally, though?
I've learned that one becomes a lot stealthier when you don't make a habit of selecting the target you're going to be firing at. When you do select someone (with X or what have you) you flash gold on the other dudes minimap/screen. It's a lot easier to sneak on tonks and plons when you aren't attracting that kind of attention to yourself, especially with plons or when a tonk is already engaged and probably focusing elsewhere.
So I was buzzing around in my SB 2M-100 at right about 3km, flew over the enemy's airfield unhindered (miracles!), dropped both bombs, started flying away to reload/get ready for another pass.
Roughly 10-15 seconds after I drop my bombs, I'm awarded a "Surprise!" medal.
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Does anyone remember what the event was last year with the XF5F and TB-3 as rewards? I want to say it was a christmas thing, but IIRC christmas was all about the tonks beta last year.
[url]http://devblog.warthunder.com/2014/12/15/steel-generals-m4a3e2/?hl=en[/url]
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I NEED ITTTTTT
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I wonder what BR it's going to be. It has a shitload of armor (178mm fucking [I]sloped[/I]) but the M3 is gonna be pretty much worthless at any sort of high BR
Whoops broke the forums
[QUOTE=Timebomb575;46719113][url]http://devblog.warthunder.com/2014/12/15/steel-generals-m4a3e2/?hl=en[/url]
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I NEED ITTTTTT
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I wonder what BR it's going to be. It has a shitload of armor (178mm fucking [I]sloped[/I]) but the M3 is gonna be pretty much worthless at any sort of high BR
Whoops broke the forums[/QUOTE]
Side armor is terrible though, that'll balance it out well.
[QUOTE=Orkel;46719129]Side armor is terrible though, that'll balance it out well.[/QUOTE]
Yeah but I mean there arent any tanks that have relevant side armor aside from the IS-3 (kinda) and IS-4. Having 80mms of side armor vs 40mms of side armor really isnt going to save you from all that much at rank 3.
Is there a release date on the US tanks update?
[QUOTE=Electrocuter;46719574]Is there a release date on the US tanks update?[/QUOTE]
I think they were gunning for late 2014, very early 2015.
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hot
[QUOTE=Timebomb575;46719588]I think they were gunning for late 2014, very early 2015.
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[url]http://devblog.warthunder.com/2014/12/15/steel-generals-t32/?hl=en[/url]
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hot[/QUOTE]
300mm-150mm thick turret with 10 degree gun depression.
I need this.
[QUOTE=Electrocuter;46719574]Is there a release date on the US tanks update?[/QUOTE]
[highlight]NOW.[/highlight]
Russian page says "[URL="http://warthunder.ru/ru/news/11050-profilakticheskie-raboty-16-dekabrya-11-00-15-00-msk-ru"]maintenance for update[/URL]" which is the precursor to every major update.
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[B][U]PREPARE YOURSELF.[/U][/B]
[QUOTE=O'Neil;46722094][url]http://warthunder.com/en/news/2712-news-steel-generals-a-new-initiative-en[/url][/QUOTE]
A rolling update? That's.. odd.
Wait a minute... Only a handful of tanks and then every few days they will give us two more vehicles? That sounds weird, oh well, let's hope this testing will actually do something.
so this is what balance is for tanks, the inability to do jack all against german tanks
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hit view ports, hit the side of a tigers turret, nothing nada
I give up on tanks for now, not worth the frustration of unbalance bs
Am I the only one who finds flanking to actually work because most players are stupid and have no situational awareness? Am I also the only one who doesnt have much of a problem going up against better tanks because I can exploit their weaknesses?
flanking does not work in SB, magical radar instantly tells you location
I aim for the weak spots and I hit them dead on but do no damage no matter what
so I have given up
[QUOTE=Covalent;46722893]flanking does not work in SB, magical radar instantly tells you location
I aim for the weak spots and I hit them dead on but do no damage no matter what
so I have given up[/QUOTE]
it strikes me as weird that everyone ALWAYS seems to have a different (better) gameplay experience than you
[I]maybe it isnt the game[/I]
I play mostly AB because it doesnt take forever to get a match and because thats where all the stupids are.
[QUOTE=Timebomb575;46722906]it strikes me as weird that everyone ALWAYS seems to have a different (better) gameplay experience than you
[I]maybe it isnt the game[/I][/QUOTE]
fully upgraded kv1-zis with b350p or w/e rounds with 116mm pene at closest distance
at maybe 100 yards I hit a view port of the tiger Iunno, 10 times out of all the matches I've been in with them
and it did fuck all
so yeah no it definitely is not me, I mean you're welcome to queue with me and see for yourself, but I doubt you'll do that. Ignorance is bliss.
Also if you think WT is more unbalanced than WoT then maybe you should go play WoT for a bit. Even if what you said happened really did happen, at least there isnt the ultimate battleassistant skycancer that is in WoT right now.
A good example:
[video=youtube;WprOQyvwoz4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WprOQyvwoz4[/video]
In WT even if you are in a tank that is way lighter or less powerful than an enemy tank, you can still kill/damage it signifigantly.
[QUOTE=Covalent;46722939]at maybe 100 yards I hit a [B]view port[/B] of the tiger Iunno, 10 times out of all the matches I've been in with them.[/QUOTE]
I don't think attacking the front part of a tank is a good idea, no matter how big is your gun. Angled armor can do wonders deflecting shots
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[QUOTE=Covalent;46722939]fully upgraded kv1-zis with b350p or w/e rounds with 116mm pene at closest distance
at maybe 100 yards I hit a view port of the tiger Iunno, 10 times out of all the matches I've been in with them
and it did fuck all[/QUOTE]
Ok here's two fun facts:
1) View ports aren't always weak spots. This isn't World of Tanks. There's no magical slit you can sneak a round in. War Thunder don't roll that way. For example; on the late-model T-34s, the driver's hatch becomes significantly stronger than the hull armor and it's an extremely bad idea to shoot it. If you [highlight]actually used the armor viewer[/highlight], you would see that the Tiger's front plates are treated as just that. Flat 102mm plates. No goofy weakspots.
2) B350P rounds are APCR. What do APCR rounds do besides penetrate? Jack diddly dundershit. They cause minimal spalling. They do not explode. They don't deal the same kind of damage even plain AP rounds do because they're [B]sub-caliber.[/B] A 75mm hole already is much smaller than you think, so how dangerous do you think a less-than 75mm hole is going to be? Answer: Not very. Furthermore, despite the massive amount of information the game gives you, even with a real-time camera in game now - you keep shooting the driver's hatch. [I]Fucking why.[/I] Only in a best-case scenario will you actually hit the gunner behind him, let alone the fuel/engine. You're [U]much better off shooting the far edges of the upper front-plate[/U] if for some dumb reason you're engaging heavy tanks frontally - as that's where there's a straight line of ammo racks ripe for the exploding. Or if you can't pen, throw some AP/HE at the fucking 28mm thick gun barrel.
Short version? You've been liquifying drivers, or at least making them brown the seat, with some kind of subconscious vendetta against a poor man who pulls levers. And that's it. If you don't have, say, 160mm+ pen, you should stop engaging Tigers frontally. Their turret/mantlet is extremely well-armored from the front and it's really unlikely you're going to get a pot shot at the gunner through it. And why even bother when this thing is a driving box with a practically externally outlined ammo depot on either side; with a whopping 62-82mm armor.
Tigers are obnoxious, yeah, but at least they have a fucking stupid design and are clunky. Just wait until you start engaging Panthers, who at any distance beyond ass-sniffing, can keep their front to you with relative ease. And have a better gun. And use to be classified as a medium with two spawns, despite being basically better in every way other than side armor (lol) to the Tiger.
[sp]On the up side, Panthers have such thin sides, you can bap it with pretty much anything 37mm and up.[/sp]
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